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Which SPIKE2 games have a node board for the topper?

By ForceFlow

1 year ago


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#1 1 year ago

I was updating the node chart for SPIKE 2 games on pinwiki and noticed the manuals for later games started including a Node 12 board for the topper. However, those weren't the first games with stern toppers.

Do other games have a node board in/for the topper? Such as, Jurassic Park, Star Wars, and Black Knight?

https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Stern_SPIKE%E2%84%A2_System_Repair#SPIKE_2_2

#2 1 year ago

Batman 66 LE/SLE has a node board for the topper but it’s physically located at the top of the backbox. Will have to check for the number.

The Elvira topper has a node board inside the topper (node 12). Believe the official name is back panel driver board, p/n 520-6998-72

Cannot speak to the others but if there is a coil, there’s probably a node board.

#3 1 year ago

I realize that you are asking about Spike 2, but perhaps you need a Topper column for Spike 1?

As I had the Ghostbusters topper, it hooked up via the node board Ethernet connector. Node board inside, right? When I installed it, the system had to add the new board to the node system.

#4 1 year ago

Just checked, the home-made GB topper uses Node Board 12. That's what is listed in the thread.

#5 1 year ago
Quoted from jbovenzi:

perhaps you need a Topper column for Spike 1?

Added.

Quoted from jfh:

The Elvira topper has a node board inside the topper (node 12). Believe the official name is back panel driver board, p/n 520-6998-72

Thanks. That's just an existing 4-coil node board. The latest games (TMNT, IQ, LZ, Mando, GZ) look like they had unique node boards made for them. I'm thinking before TMNT, the games just maybe used that 4-coil node board?

Quoted from jbovenzi:

Just checked, the home-made GB topper uses Node Board 12. That's what is listed in the thread.

Home-made? Not the official one?

#6 1 year ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

Added.

Home-made? Not the official one?

Yes the home-made version as what I read on their thread. Unfortunately I never opened up my Stern one while I had it.

Perhaps some kind soul will do that.

2 weeks later
#7 1 year ago

OK I'm intrigued...

So in theory, if one were to connect the correct node board with the correct ID, they could build a home made variant of the official topper, right?

As the node board does not really check what's connected behind it, so you could use the default signals used for the official topper to build something custom?

#8 1 year ago

me too. check out the node board and post a photo of node board #12

Quoted from Ashram56:OK I'm intrigued...
So in theory, if one were to connect the correct node board with the correct ID, they could build a home made variant of the official topper, right?
As the node board does not really check what's connected behind it, so you could use the default signals used for the official topper to build something custom?

#9 1 year ago
Quoted from PinFever:

me too. check out the node board and post a photo of node board #12

Well would love too, just don't have an official topper

#10 1 year ago

ForceFlow

Here's what's inside Star Wars Topper:
- PN #520-6998-72
- 4-way motor controller board, PN ##520-6996-00

The motor controller board is used to control, well... the motor - one motor, two directions
The node board seems to simply drive the motor controller board and a few leds

Note: these are not my pictures, I don't have a Star Wars topper

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#11 1 year ago

Black knight does

1 week later
#12 1 year ago

Just did a tear down and pictation for Jurassic Park and Black Knight toppers:

Jurassic Park:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/9siHuSrgguMpqSWn7

Node board: 520-6976-72 x1
Node board capacitor: 502-7059-00 x1
LED controller board: 520-6831-01 x2
LED Letter board: 520-8464-00A x1
Flash Lamp: 520-8457-00A RED x4
LED DRV: 520-5307-00B x12
5V 4 LED RGB strip (1LED per segment), x2

Black Knight (didn't dive too deep into the helmet):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FfYeMXn2Y1GUi6Kg6

Node board: 520-6998-72 x1
Node board capacitor: 502-7059-00 x1
Flash Lamp: 520-7000-00 x6
Knight Helmet board: 520-8416-00 x1

4 months later
#13 1 year ago

ForceFlow , I'm slightly confused on the wiki, did you update it ?

Specifically interested into Stranger Things, there is a reference in the comment section: Node 9a1 - 520-8418-00 - Dual Motor Driver Lamp board

But the topper board should actually be node 12

Has anyone identified which board this topper board is ?

#14 1 year ago
Quoted from Ashram56:

Specifically interested into Stranger Things, there is a reference in the comment section: Node 9a1 - 520-8418-00 - Dual Motor Driver Lamp board

That board is not in the topper column on pinwiki, it's in the next column over under "Misc". 9a1 is a board on the playfield indicated in the manual. The topper column is blank since I have no info on it.

[edit]: I added node 12 to the topper column for stranger things. I do not have a part number for the node board, though.

#15 1 year ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

That board is not in the topper column on pinwiki, it's in the next column over under "Misc". 9a1 is a board on the playfield indicated in the manual. The topper column is blank since I have no info on it.
[edit]: I added node 12 to the topper column for stranger things. I do not have a part number for the node board, though.

Thanks for the info

Looks like no one owning a topper has disassembled yet the topper. I would have thought it would be straightforward, but apparently it's not so easy

Anyway

#16 1 year ago

Part number for Node 12 - 520-6976-72

#17 1 year ago
Quoted from Pinhead1982:

Part number for Node 12 - 520-6976-72

Which game?

#18 1 year ago
Quoted from Pinhead1982:

Part number for Node 12 - 520-6976-72

Pinhead1982, that's an SPI board, I'm surprised they would use this board as the primary interface board in the topper. What's connected to it?

And indeed... Which game?

Regards

[EDIT] Actually... it does make sense if it's a Stranger Things topper. The only controlled toy in the topper is a ledstrip, I suspect it's a WS2812, which requires a serial data line plus power. And that's exactly what's on the this node board fundamentally, they could have repurposed the SPI output as a WS2812 control signal.

11 months later
#19 75 days ago

ForceFlow, by the way the wiki has not been udpated with the SW topper nodes information

Cheers

1 week later
#20 65 days ago

ForceFlow

Confirmation of the Spike 2 node board in Stranger Things topper.

Stern Pinball Flipper Platine (SPI Node Board Rev A) #520-6976-72

Manufacturing cost of the STh topper is astonishlingly low.

It's basically a WS2812B 60led/m ledstrip, with plastic casing, a few printed laser cut plexi, and a backmirror.

Close up of connection attached, green is data, red is 5V and white is ground.
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