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New White Playfield Posts

By Gotemwill

2 years ago


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    #1 2 years ago

    I bought a set of new opaque white faceted posts from one of our pinball parts suppliers. As you can see, they are not as translucent and almost bluish-white compared to the originals. I have tried bleaching the original posts to get them looking fresh again but the yellowing is from the lamp heat and will apparently not come out

    Has anyone found posts that look more original or have any other solution?

    FWIW - I’ll be on the lookout at Allentown for some.

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    #2 2 years ago

    O.E.M are made from nylon and a different mold.
    One pinsider was able to get a European post that was made from the nylon martial,
    But the inside cut was different from the U.S. style.
    The post was the closest to the 1970's era.
    The new style is made from hard plastic and a mold from the S.S. era.

    #3 2 years ago
    Quoted from Gotemwill:

    I bought a set of new opaque white faceted posts from one of our pinball parts suppliers. As you can see, they are not as translucent and almost bluish-white compared to the originals. I have tried bleaching the original posts to get them looking fresh again but the yellowing is from the lamp heat and will apparently not come out
    Has anyone found posts that look more original or have any other solution?
    FWIW - I’ll be on the lookout at Allentown for some.
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    That is how all new white posts are gonna look, unfortunately. It's likely how they looked back in the day, too. When I got my Old Chicago, the previous owner had replaced a few posts with new and he replaced the Greg Kmiec signature red post with new white ones. I ended up buying some used ones from guys who did full restores and wanted all new. I prefer the aged look. Just depends if you are going for factory new, usind a new playfield and all that or just a real good shop job.

    #4 2 years ago

    Is there some reason why the manufacturers don’t offer a post with a more vintage color? I would think it wouldn’t be too hard to tint the plastic a little more yellow instead of blue.

    #5 2 years ago
    Quoted from jasonspoint28:

    Is there some reason why the manufacturers don’t offer a post with a more vintage color? I would think it wouldn’t be too hard to tint the plastic a little more yellow instead of blue.

    I spoke to Steve Young about this very thing. He advised it would be very costly to formulate an off white custom color and he would have to order more posts than it is worth to keep the costs in line per post. I was chatting about how I like the vintage look of aged parts and wondered if he could offer white parts in an off white, including posts, pop bodies, skirts, flipper bats, etc. He said he looked into it but there is no off the shelf pigment that would work, so he'd have to pay to have custom color created and then stored for whenever he needed reruns of stuff.

    #6 2 years ago
    Quoted from jasonspoint28:

    Is there some reason why the manufacturers don’t offer a post with a more vintage color? I would think it wouldn’t be too hard to tint the plastic a little more yellow instead of blue.

    Then people would complain, "why are they making new posts that look like they are 40 years old?" Is it even possible to know what the *original* color of these posts from back then was, given normal aging? For all we know that totally white one was actually close to the original color. Unless somebody has a sealed bag of them that they bought way back when but even that wouldn't prove it. As for the 'bluish' color, the picture just looks like plain old white to me.

    #7 2 years ago

    I think some people buy new because it is easier than cleaning a set of old ones. I prefer the aged look. At the last Allentown show i picked up a bag of used/clean posts for $5. Good luck shopping.

    #8 2 years ago

    You could try to Retro-bright your old posts. Place them in a clear dish and submerge them in hydrogen peroxide. Then leave them in the sun for 8 hours.

    #9 2 years ago
    Quoted from frenchmarky:

    As for the 'bluish' color, the picture just looks like plain old white to me.

    How about in this picture? More like “cool white” perhaps?
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    #10 2 years ago

    PBR does/did sell ivory pop skirts by the way. Currently out of stock however

    #12 2 years ago
    Quoted from RC_like_the_cola:

    I spoke to Steve Young about this very thing. He advised it would be very costly to formulate an off white custom color and he would have to order more posts than it is worth to keep the costs in line per post. I was chatting about how I like the vintage look of aged parts and wondered if he could offer white parts in an off white, including posts, pop bodies, skirts, flipper bats, etc. He said he looked into it but there is no off the shelf pigment that would work, so he'd have to pay to have custom color created and then stored for whenever he needed reruns of stuff.

    Thank you for the background on this.

    #13 2 years ago

    Take a few new posts and leave them out in the sun for a few days or week, see if that yellows them up. Can substitute a UV lamp for sun if you got one...

    #14 2 years ago
    Quoted from jeffc:

    PBR does/did sell ivory pop skirts by the way. Currently out of stock however

    Yeah, I think I bought a dozen or more of those. He said they were old stock and he didn't produce them in that ivory color when we talked on the phone. I always phone my orders in. Steve's got the good info.

    #15 2 years ago
    Quoted from Gotemwill:

    How about in this picture? More like “cool white” perhaps?
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    Yeah now they look much darker than the old ones vs. the original pic, like friggin' grey. How hard is it for them to use regular old WHITE plastic when they make these?

    #16 2 years ago
    Quoted from metallik:

    Take a few new posts and leave them out in the sun for a few days or week, see if that yellows them up. Can substitute a UV lamp for sun if you got one...

    Might try this. The problem is really the transparency. The old ones, yellow or not, are more of a milky white.

    I have a couple good old stock posts. You can see the difference.

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    #17 2 years ago

    As long as there is not a mixture of new and old posts in the machine AND you use real lamps for the GI, the new posts look good. They will also yellow some in time but not as much as the originals. They also look more blue under "cool" lights in the house and workshop. They don't get that exaggerated color in low game room lighting with warm white GI bulbs.

    #18 2 years ago
    Quoted from John_I:

    As long as there is not a mixture of new and old posts in the machine AND you use real lamps for the GI, the new posts look good. They will also yellow some in time but not as much as the originals. They also look more blue under "cool" lights in the house and workshop. They don't get that exaggerated color in low game room lighting with warm white GI bulbs.

    True

    #19 2 years ago

    You could spray paint them Antique White.

    #20 2 years ago

    BallyOp on ebay had offered them, dont see he offers them anymore. Im sitting on about 1000 for my future projects.

    ken

    #21 2 years ago

    ballyop is Alex, Alex's email is [email protected]

    #22 2 years ago

    I give a BIG Plus for pinhead52 for supplying me with a set.
    The posts worked out very well on a vintage
    Gottlieb Flying Carpet pinball.

    #23 2 years ago

    How did the get the whole way over to Italy???

    #24 2 years ago
    Quoted from KenLayton:

    You could spray paint them Antique White.

    Wasn't someone soaking them in tea or coffee a while back?

    #25 2 years ago
    Quoted from John_I:

    Wasn't someone soaking them in tea or coffee a while back?

    That might work if you roughen them up first. Maybe run them through a media tumbler.

    #26 2 years ago

    I never let that small color difference goof me up.

    a) Use warm lights on the playfield to hopefully influence the posts to be lit warmer
    b) Minor color difference
    c) They look far better than the ugly nicotine-stained appearance of the older posts
    d) One day perfect repro might be achieved, and these are inexpensive
    e) Works well on predominantly colder-colored playfields of the EM era

    However, there are many perfectionists on here, and that is understandable.

    #27 2 years ago
    Quoted from Gotemwill:

    How did the get the whole way over to Italy???

    "BallyOp" was an operator back in the 70's, stocked up on posts a a hell of a lot of extra pf's.

    #28 2 years ago
    Quoted from John_I:

    Wasn't someone soaking them in tea or coffee a while back?

    I once soaked a set of new pop bumper bodies in a strong tea solution. It took about three weeks for the desired effect, but they came out looking like the original aged ones.

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