There is a total point allotment for a monthly event for the entire year. When that number is reached...usually around the halfway point of the year, monthly events start eating away at all the previous months points for the year in order to award points for the rest of the year's monthly tournaments. Losing points happens all the time here. Closer to the end of the year, I have to win the monthly tournament I host or I go backwards no matter what. I am literally better off not hosting events than I am hosting them from an WPPR point standpoint. At the beginning of the year, winning a monthly here is worth about 7 points, by the end of the year, it's worth just over 2. So keep in mind, it's not a one time thing, your points are going to continue to go down for this tournament for the rest of the year.

I believe they get adjusted for strength of field. From what I've seen they enter it in first...then get back around a little later with adjusteing the strength factor. Lot of events going on, takes a little time to make all the calculations.

Starting this year we actually adjusted the monthlies to be divided by 12 full stop, so you'll actually see this adjusted once I correct the mistake. You will then see your points slowly grow throughout the rest of the year with no further adjustment.

Nice. That's a welcome change.

Not sure how it relates to your problem, but there is definitely something wrong with the WPPR values on the site right now. I just contacted Josh about it and he confirmed the issue and said they're working to sort it out.

RANKINGS UNDER CONSTRUCTION

We're aware (and by we I mean Brian) is aware of the problems. We will hopefully have everything straightened out and back to normal soon.

Awesome screen shot. Hope to maintain that #1 to the end of the year!!

Jeebus christ. Good illustration point of disparity between states lol... case in point, you have to have a 47 currently just to get your foot in the door in Texas top 16...and I'm sure that's going to go up 20-40 points by the end of the year. 49.45 was the entry floor for us last year. 17.37 for AZ last year!

How the hell did Mark Pearson have 168 points in 12 events and the bottom qualifier for top 16 has 17.37 points?! That's insane! Our top guy has 224 for this year, but let's be honest here, I'm not even sure Jon is human anymore. I think he's turned into a cyborg or something. Colin (our number 2) has 60 more points than I do with the same number of events, so......yeah..... /faceplant for me.

Only 2 large cities in Arizona, so much fewer events. Also the only things posted yet are 3 tournaments and the Tucson D&D monthlies.

Yet to post are 2 leagues, (1 for Phoenix and 1 for Tucson) and at least 3 other tournaments.

At 30+ points per event or league there's another 150+ points yet to go onto the board for Arizona.

Can't wait until next year when things get balanced and the monthly tournaments are worth just as much or more than some of these individual events. There was one remote event last year with only 11 players worth 27 points to the winner while, Zapcon, the biggest event in AZ with 50 players including a top 12 player in the world was worth 31 points, and the monthly with 30 players in it is worth only 2 points.

Some interesting comparisons on how many points generated by the top 16 players in each state....just a small cross section...

CA - 3486.61
TX - 2489.94
WA - 2421.33
IL - 1910.77
AZ - 982.10

Is this the top 16 SCS qualifiers, or top 16 qualifiers who are registered/live in the state?

(Either way: Do Vermont! Do Vermont!)

Just took the top 16 listed. Was more interested in the total output of points that were available than how much in-state players specifically generated.. and man...VT....ya'll gotta get some more action up there.. 8.38 points to get in? That's not even a side tournament win.

CA - 3486.61
TX - 2489.94
WA - 2421.33
WI- 1278
IL - 1910.77
AZ - 982.10
VT - 304.6

WI- 1278

45points to make 16th, currently

VT is just getting up and running with a competitive scene. I ran 3 tournaments this year, plus a New England Pinball league location. I'm planning to run more in 2015, but I'd love it if more tournaments could pop up in other places in the state. I also don't mind if things build slowly, and long as they're building.

Because the NEPL works such that its points count toward every state that has an NEPL location, a large chunk of the qualifiers here did not play in an event that actually took place here. I'm guessing we'll have to go pretty far down the list to fill our bracket for February.

Wow, that's an interesting situation, but if it gets more people playing...okay.

Yup. Might be preferable to seeing the VT list only have 40 people on it, and a whole lot of very small numbers.

The only moderately sketchy part about it was that all NEPL seasons this year counted toward the VT standings, even though VT only joined during the last season. So that's at least part of why a lot of less serious (i.e., league only) VT people got knocked down by otherwise equivalent non-VT NEPL people.

I can understand the extra burden on Josh/IFPA wouldn't be worth actually splitting it up so only the last season would count for VT. Easy to say, I guess, as someone who wasn't bumped down.

Can you elaborate on this part? I can't see how you can determine skill levels by looking at the results, unless you're seeing local players overtaking non-locals.

Weird, MI is at ~1400 total, but 35 pts gets you in top 16 and more like 20 for who will actually show up. Must be that all of your players are much more evenly matched, or your events have a lot more competitors.

Ohio is at about 2170 total points among the top 16 and it's about 57 to get in. 2014 saw a big growth in the number of events held here and there is still one left to go.

Looking at last year... there were only about 1045 points among the top 16 and 33 could get you in. After it went down the list to fill all the spots, the 16th seed made it in only earning 14 points for the year. That won't even get you close this time around.

Will be interesting to see who actually shows up in GR for the MI. SCS since the location will be relatively close to Indiana / Ohio borders. Might even get a Illinois person or two.

I am not sure exactly what is the difference but we have quite a few out of staters that come to all of our bigger events and win them to take home the nig points. We also have a growing group of WI players that seek out and play in a TON of events. I think this has inflated what it takes to be top 16.

My best guess is we will go decently deep, mid 20s, in order to fill the field? Jason Werdrick will likely show up in WI but I think all other out of staters go by the motto of "play where you live" for SCS.

That makes sense, and is very cool to see. I was of course picturing looking at just place results rather than scores as well.

??? Ann Arbor is only 2 hours from Grand Rapids... I drove from Dallas to Austin for TX finals last year... that's 60 miles extra.

I'll be out of the country that weekend

Dammit I thought I have everything worked out...sucks.

Sorry to hear that man. there's a lot of bad timing with the SCS really...

The nationals are the same weekend as TPF. Epic fail.

TPF always gets put on another events date or vice-versa, hence I'll never make it down there. Of course that's a major consequence of the sheer number of leagues, tourneys, and shows that have popped up and been added to the calender the past few years. Growing pains

Was an exciting final weekend in AZ. Congrats to Mark for his victory in the state rankings (and for the awesome charity event he hosted), and to those that moved up big time with great showings in the final events, particularly Doug and Paul.

In regards to the topic, some weird stuff happened to the points in MI at least. Andy was in 3rd after the miracle charity tournament points were submitted, and it seems like Todd, Andy, and Andrew have lost some points???

Ha I've never understood them wacky points. I gained like 25 points after that and dropped.

They lost points because the Alley Pass League (and other leagues) reported twice or more during the season. When this happens the original points and the points from the last reporting get cut in half (to make one whole event worth 25 base points). So the IFPA people put the leagues in and then went back and checked to see they had already reported thus making the points cut in half for each reporting date.

Ahhh...thanks Alex. I was wondering why the league showed up as the latest event all of a sudden.

Funny that the same explanation for the first post is applicable. Glad we're moving to wppr5; makes so much more sense.

In Alabama 16th position was only 5.62 points. Due to out of state players, we are currently down to 20th position to fill the field, at 3.89 points. That player got all his points from only one event, a strong finish at our Walking Dead launch tourney!

They are still making adjustments to many things on the IFPA/WPPR side of things. More shakeups to come before 5.0 hits.

Eh? I thought it was supposed to start Jan 1...running a bit short on time, or is my memory bad?

Last minute rush of events / tourneys to enter and verify. Many leagues have reported end of season stats in order to get 2014 points added in for SCS's. Thus turning many annual events into periodic ones. Just my guess. Wppr 5.0 in 2015 unless something changed.

Gotcha. Thought you meant shakeups in the point systems, not necessarily as a result of late-ish tournament results entries.