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HUO from factory ??

By Nesman

5 months ago



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    #1 5 months ago

    So the word HUO gets tossed around way to much, however today I picked up a Joker Poker on marketplace today. The older lady selling it tells me that is a HUO like she knows pinball, but this was her only game and passed down from family members. I really didn’t believe it at first. But as I got home and looked at it. She might be correct, the game is in great condition but the coin door has a credit button where the coin return is and it looks factory.
    I know that’s a hack for most, but I also noticed there are no coin mechanisms on the door, not only that but not a single scuff or scratch it looks brand new on the inside.
    So I guess my question is, did Gotleib make HUO pins for customers? Giving deals for not adding coin mechs ?

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    #2 5 months ago

    Half the people I buy old games from claim the machine is HUO.

    “Dad got it brand new for Christmas 50 years ago!”

    These people really have no idea, and seriously have no idea of how truly rare an HUO game was back then.

    Take it with a huge barge load of salt. And that’s a very common “hack” for free play. It didn’t happen from the factory. No chance.

    Be happy you for a super clean nice old joker poker. The chances it’s truly HUO are incredibly remote.

    #3 5 months ago

    I agree with CrazyLevi.

    The normal path for a pinball is for the manufacturer to have it manufactured, then pinballs are 'distributed' to distributors.

    Then the machine would be unboxed, there would be extensive quality checks, all the problems with the machine would be fixed, it would be 'burned in' for 24 hours, and then sold to usually an 'operator' who would take the pinball directly from the distributor's warehouse to Joe's bar, where he would pick up the pinball that used to be there, and bring the older pinball to the distributor for a trade in, or possibly would take the older pinball to a different location.

    A vanishingly small number of full-duty commercial pieces of equipment with ridiculously high prices were sold to people's homes. I could see the distributor pulling the coin mech assemblies and installing a free play button for one of these sales... so it's possible.

    It's just quite unlikely. I think of older pinballs kind of like walk-in refrigerator rooms. Yeah, a bar with a kitchen probably has a commercial walk-in refrigerator room. It's POSSIBLE that some houses have walk-in refrigerator rooms, but it's pretty darned unlikely. Too expensive, too commercial duty.

    However, it is far more likely that the pinball would have been in commercial use... in a bar, a soda shop, a tavern, an arcade. Then, if someone saw and wanted to buy the pinball the operator would sell it to them. Keep in mind that an operator in those days would try to get the cost of the machine back within one year, maybe two. So after a year or two the machine is paid for, and if the operator could sell a machine to a home owner and get more money they would do that.

    Frequently the operator would disable the machine's ability to be used for making money. In those days you didn't want to have a pinball end up back in commercial use by your competitor.

    I would say that just about all 'HUO' pinballs are just 'it was briefly on location, maybe a year, then it was cleaned up and sold to a home buyer.'

    (shrugs) From my point of view it really doesn't matter. Pinballs can get a quite a bit of play and still be very far from worn out enough to require service or to show obvious signs of wear.

    Condition matters more to me than provenance.

    #4 5 months ago

    If you really wanted to investigate you could crack open those coin chutes and see if they are worn/ have tracks.

    Post some pics of the playfield….just for fun.

    #5 5 months ago

    The button is funny considering it only takes 1 inch of wire to make it free play.

    Looks like it's been kept is a dry environment its entire life. HUO or not, if the rest of the machine is like the coin door, it's in great shape!

    #6 5 months ago

    That left coin insert looks like it's had more than a couple of quarters pushed through it in comparison to the right one. There were coin mechs in that game at one point I'd wager.

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