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Help with lights please !

By Pinballer100

8 months ago


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#1 8 months ago

Hello I have a spacejam machine (my first pinball love it) everything worked great for past few years recently tho the 5 bulbs in the left sling and accessories have quit lighting up. See picture. I HAVE REPLACED ALL BULBS THAT WONT LIGHT I checked all wiring to all bulbs all connected great actually and no slip, slack or missing solder no operator codes either. I can't figure this one out?? I have recently noticed when machine is off for a long time then switched on they light up for a little bit but then all shut off. I have checked fuses also any help is greatly appreciated thanks and happy playing !

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#2 8 months ago

Figure out where their wires go to a connector on which board. You likely have burned connector and need to replace it and pins on the board it plugs onto.

A manual would help.

LTG : )

#3 8 months ago

looks like one is a switched bulb, and the other 4, 2 for the sling and 2 for the lane guide are general illumination.

so 2 separate parts of the lighting.

i read you 'checked' wiring, but did you use a multi-meter to test for continuity? The chain may have a break in for the G.I.

the S.I. bulb out may be a transistor? when it is supposed to be lit have you used a multi-meter to check for voltage at the socket?

#4 8 months ago

I have checked all unlit bulbs for continuity. Every bulb socket that is out has continuity. I noticed that more bulbs on same side are also unlit. See pic l. I do have the original manual, but become lost is reading the wiring digrams. Finally when the machine is off over night, and I come power the game on all unlit lights turn on with begining of power on. They all stay lit for a minute or two they all go out. Thank you all. And side note to ltg where should the board be located behind the back glass or under the play field. Thanks in advance I can update pics from manual l. Happy gaming

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#5 8 months ago

ALSO sorry forgot to add to previous comment.Would one burned out bulb ever lead to multiple bulbs going out or not?(chained together like Christmas lights are one goes out the whole strand goes out till you find and replace the one bad bulb)

#6 8 months ago
Quoted from Pinballer100:

Would one burned out bulb

No, burned connector is more likely.

Quoted from Pinballer100:

And side note to ltg where should the board be located behind the back glass

Behind the backglass. Look for the same color wires on the sockets of the bulbs that are out. Or look around the boards back there for a burned connector.

LTG : )

#7 8 months ago

Wow ltg with lighting fast replies thank you very much. And I checked the connectors don't see anything. I powered down machine unplugged connectors behind back glass and plugged back in powered up and nothing. They do all have the same,(solid yellow and white with yellow dash wires) I did not see any burned black or melted connectors.

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#8 8 months ago

The I/O driver board.
Upper left area, fuses and connector are there I think. On line manual is fuzzy. Pull and check fuses with a meter.

LTG : )

#9 8 months ago

I check fuse and, unplugged and plugged everything back in same same nothing. No burned markes or missing pins or anything. And this board see pic is why I believe me and you are talking about.

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#10 8 months ago

Also what are the black fin things there's two I got shocked tacking fuse out and checked it. That hurt lol. But they were hot and zapped me. And when checking the fuse with meter pull fuse out or check two sides of fuse holder for continuity or what I'm lost. Thanks again.

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#11 8 months ago

Please turn your machine off whenever you are in there poking around, testing, and plugging/unplugging cables. Pinwiki is a great resource, here is the relevant article for your issue:

https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php/Sega/Stern_White_Star_Repair#General_illumination_problems

Always check a fuse after either pulling one side out or removing completely.

#12 8 months ago

usually do Everytime. I just pushed the fuse to see if it was fully seated and so happened to get zapped no biggie. Thanks tho happy gaming

#13 8 months ago
Quoted from Pinballer100:

And this board see pic is why I believe me and you are talking about.

That board is for your DMD. Nothing to do with GI lights.

Find a tech or local collector to help you.

LTG : )

#14 8 months ago

Oh gee thanks I'll check my manual or dr. Pinball and btw all fuses are fine as per the link that was copy and pasted thanks for all the great help pinside couldn't have done none of this without the commentary's

#15 8 months ago

This manual for a similar game might help more.

Page "i" is the boards in the back box.

Page 116 is the driver board.

LTG : )

#16 8 months ago

Yes and as stated I have original manual and all fuses wires wire connectors are fine not loose not burned etc. New bulbs or no burned out bulbs thus the loss of where to think what are those fins tho ? In previous posts what mechanical purposes do they serve thanks happy pinballing players

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#17 8 months ago
Quoted from Pinballer100:

what are those fins tho ?

Heat sink to cool the transistor.

Probably grab a meter, and starting at sockets, see if you have 6 volts AC there, if not follow along the wires through connectors to board in the head, see where power stops.

LTG : )

#18 8 months ago

If one of the sockets does not have 6vac will it cause the rest to go out ?

#19 8 months ago
Quoted from Pinballer100:

If one of the sockets does not have 6vac will it cause the rest to go out ?

You'd have to study the wires. If one doesn't have power, if those after it are out, then you have a broken wire before the first one that is out.

LTG : )

#20 8 months ago

Well with much regret and respect it was the j15 connector one plug was black and crispy. Pulled it off and cleaned it up as best I could and fitted the rest of the plug back on and pushed the burned fitting into the prong and bam it all lit up thanks for all the help. And wisdom but out of curiosity what causes those too burn like that just half the j15 connector and where could I get a new plastic connector to wire in thanks. Fuses all fine everything getting 6volts or so on multimeter.

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#21 8 months ago
Quoted from Pinballer100:

causes those too burn like that

Higher current going through it than what it is rated for.

You need new connector and pins on the board.

Try the parts suppliers or Mouser.

LTG : )

#22 8 months ago

Ok what would the technical name be for that plastic connector?? Also what would cause it to pull more then it is rated for? How could I figure that out so it doesn't occur over and over. Thanks for everything everyone. !
Happy gaming

#23 8 months ago
Quoted from Pinballer100:

Also what would cause it to pull more then it is rated for? How could I figure that out so it doesn't occur over and over

Poor design. In home use if you replace the connector and pins you'll likely never have to do it again.

Quoted from Pinballer100:

what would the technical name be for that plastic connector??

Ed isn't selling parts anymore. His website is a good source to figure names and sizes. https://www.greatplainselectronics.com/

LTG : )

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