Unfortunately probably in the 4's. IM are selling from 3,800 to 4,500 and some of those were vaults. SM & SMV have been going for 4 to 5. WD premium's sitting on market at 6, and that's their best game. I like KISS, but it gets a bad rap. You can ask whatever you like though. The market on newer games has gotten strange. Start maybe at 5 and see. If you have an older pin to sell you would probably take less of a hit. GLWS I just had to do some selling to get by myself.