I think it'll just be the boat bash toy, no shark. Surprise me Stern

I thought the chum bucket would be on all the models, but now that I think about it...I still haven't forgiven Stern for taking the helicopter spinner out of JP Pro

Also the last pro with an upper PF was that hot banger WWE

If Stern follows their Prem "3 Mech Advantage" over the Pro (TM still pending), you can rip out a major, mid, and minor mech from the Prem to guess what the Pro will have.

- Upper PF is the major (given).

Usually Pros could have a main toy that was coil-activated only, not motorization. However, TMNT had the disc and STH had the Demo Ramp. Given what operators would want from a maintenance perspective and from a "Show the damn Shark in attract mode" perspective, I think the shark/boat stays and moving shark fin is gone from the Pro. They'll replicate this feature with a roaming lit shot.

- Shark fin is the mid.

- The 2nd inlane up-post I bet is the minor.

And then of course make 1-2 Prem molds into flat plastics for the Pro. That's always the case too.

That game was about 80 percent innovation and 20 percent fun.

So much tasty innovation.

watch the fin on the pin on the pro be a static single drop...

YES ..... its true and apparently 6992 of them want a shark to eat a pinball !

Okay first negative thing I will be adding to this thread. In general I Like what I see but on the pro conversation. OMG this game is the roaming fin in the middle for me that is the best thing I have seen. If that is not on the pro that 100% would wipe out the pro for me and many imo

interesting...

then on the flip side stern tend to use the same playfield for all models so they just stock one playfield so maybe the moving shark fin target stays, the boat stays but no lift up boat / shark. And then they plug the up posts on the inlanes

All these leaks and nothing pro related, even the leakers want to sell as many LEs as possible.

The upper playfield on Jaws seems to differ from other recent uppers (Foo, BKSOR, etc) in that there doesn't look to be a looping shot up there. The left most shot exits to a wireform down and out the left spinner. The "table" spinner shot exits down a wireform to the right side flipper. And finally if you just brick it and drain up there, it plops back out into the center of the playfield.

This feels very on-brand for KME and his love of flow. Doesn't seem like the upper will disrupt flow at all, and there are multiple paths to be rewarded for a made shot.

I think you are likely right, shark stays but static and this removes captive ball in boat and targets as well.

Game looks fun

This is what I'm most excited about. I haven't put much time on Venom but having progression carry over is a really cool use of IC.

I think the fin will be there!

Ya a static boat makes sense.

At least the helicopter was easily created and added on the JP pro!

Anyways, this is the first Keith Uppie, this could be more integral to the gameplay in his mind than simply a throw away LE "feature". Honestly I thought for sure the upper would go an hour ago, I'm just trying to understand how you easily, and cheaply remove that and it's no big deal, just remove all the out ramps, and in ramps leaving nothingness there? Or leaving a loop? Plus it is the main boat in the movie.

Possible, could be loop like Aerosmith.
Didn’t hurt any of the fun

I bet the pro has a plastic shark standee with a hole where the mouth is so you can shoot a ball through it.

I don't see how they could not have a shark on the pro. It would really suck if the Pro had zero shark anywhere on the playfield and just a boat. I assume and hope it's at least a static shark toy or target

I thought that boat looked awfully familiar. The Sopranos

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They "tend" to but not always. TMNT (2nd Lair switch) and Venom (jump ramp) are slightly different. AIQ has a few differences. Mando and ACDC are more obvious examples.

But like in 007, since the cutout can be plugged it's just another screwed down insert w/o slot they'd have to use to block up this area on the Pro. And that's only if they axe the mech but still route the giant hole.

this one looks better

Ya think? I cant beleive it took people this long to realize, Jaws doesnt eat your balls. I mean, They have a shark fin on a square,
target that moves. in an arc.

I really like the Stugots ship. It's a fun, though simple, toy. But this one shakes when you hit like it's on the water!!! INNOVATION!

Sharks are well known for swimming in arcs. Keith's hands were tied

This is true, and I was probably being flippant before about uppers. It's Keith's first upper, it'll probably be cool. Trying to think of some weird 80s gottlieb with an upper playfield, maybe he nicked it.

Regardless...even if it's a good add for the premium, there's no way the pro will have it and the pro won't suffer much by it's absence. Pro is gonna be good.

Yes the boat that pinballs go into looks superficially like another boat that pinballs go into.

What the fuck is wrong with pinball?! Why can't every square inch of a new pinball machine be uniquely different than every other pinball machine that has ever existed?

Where's the innovation?

Oh wait this one flips up and down, and has targets in it that you have to hit, and appears to be different in almost every way than any other pinball boat before it? No not that kind of innovation it needs magnets and a lower playfield.

This is what I imagine Levi looked like when he saw the shark on an arc

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Wow, I went and took a nap and this thread went from bananas to a toilet flush. Keep it going guys. This is fun. Ball jokes are always funny.

They really are. I keep waiting for them to get old and then Beachpickle posts another chop.

Super excited about this one, especially with Elwin at the helm.
I like the looks of the outlane post on the right side, the three bank target on the left, the fin on a stick, both up posts near the bottom flippers, and especially the open playfield as that usually translates to a fast playing game.

In for an LE!

Hold on there chief, I'm by no means suggesting I want the upper playfield to stay on the Pro, or that there's anything remotely redeeming about one...

Even though I can think of ones I didn't completely and utterly loath.

I want Stern to bring back the curved playfield from Orbitor 1, now THAT was innovation! It also helped kill the company. Still one of my favorite games, though.

To get my money there better be a mode where we collect our wife's holiday roast which starts "Swim Charlie, Swim!" multiball.

I am waiting for a chopping wood comparison

Simple solution buy it if you like it.
Do not buy if you do not like it.

I am hearing 700 LE.

Just getting caught up.. Does the shark eat the ball?

6 balls

That would mean the Anniversary Edition only gets 300.

500 SLE

Just keeping talking shark and pinball, there will be more with some Katy and Fonz sprinkled in for good measure.

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Left shark mode where the left flipper is weird

He gargles balls and tosses salad, too

Alright um, I had an interesting moment; I thought the leak with the emptyish pf and little up pf was definitely the Pro and I was underwhelmed but liked the Twisted Wireform and the Monster Bash Dracula Arch Mech modded with the Fin DropTarget. And I was looking forward to seeing the Premium.. but my buddy just told me that was the Prem? Hmmm....

Is that only on the LE?

$tern is probably gonna block me on youtube for calling them out but I spoke my honest opinion.

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dont be talking trash bout 'mania

You cant handle multi pfs. We all know this.

I think it’s alright with all the code updates. Not as bad as the rep

You sure showed them!

The upper PF on BKSOR makes the game. The upper PF on Shadow is awesome as well. WOZ is cool too.

This reminds me of when I peruse the r/niceguys reddit.