Jaws (LE)
Stern, 2024
Jaws (Premium)
Stern, 2024
Jaws (Pro)
Stern, 2024So the Elwin video wasn't up to par? I thought it laid out what the game was all about in 16 minutes from a great player and designer of the game. Spot on.
Elwin is just kind of like the pinball version of Bill Belichick personality wise 
Quoted from cookpins:Thanks. Double bummer to that. Was looking forward to watching it in the gameroom tonight, and since it's on Stern's official channel I suspect there won't be any shenanigans, like the Bond stream where Gomez was getting looooose.
Ya that was great.
Quoted from iceman44:So the Elwin video wasn't up to par? I thought it laid out what the game was all about in 16 minutes from a great player and designer of the game. Spot on.
Elwin is just kind of like the pinball version of Bill Belichick personality wise
This analogy is perfection
Quoted from Wariodolby:It sounds like everyone can get the stern speaker lights with shark cut out,the barrel plunger and Armor.
So what’s the point in buying LE?
There has never been a good reason to buy an LE. If you're rich and want to feel special for writing a check, go for it.
Quoted from toaster777:There may be side armour but it'll be different just like they've done on every other game. Same goes with art blades.
Bond may be the first tile where LE armor and blades are virtually identical.
Quoted from cookpins:Thanks. Double bummer to that. Was looking forward to watching it in the gameroom tonight, and since it's on Stern's official channel I suspect there won't be any shenanigans, like the Bond stream where Gomez was getting looooose.
Loose Gomez is best Gomez haha. I think JDanger is joining the Monday stream so I'm expecting some good banter and loose play. I do get your point though, being on the official company channel may pucker some butts.
Quoted from JPloof:The best part of this thread will be in 6 months when we’ve somewhat forgotten Jaws doesn’t eat the ball and the genius of the layout, rules and deep code has this being a machine permanently in the pinside top 10.
Or it turns out to be AIQ and it isn’t.
The really best part will be if it does turn out to be a top 10 pin there will be plenty on the lightly used market for $1000 under MSRP.
Quoted from gamble89:Ive found that anyone who talks about loving Cactus Canyon , MM , AFM , or Addams Family can be disregarded for opinions on what makes a good game.
When did this thread title change to Dum Dum… Jaws?
Quoted from superNoid:I do get your point though, being on the official company channel may pucker some butts.
It was great seeing Elwin talk about his game in the video. Pinsiders are more in the know, and get it. But the masses that have played the game at CES who research afterwards may not get it, not knowing Elwin. If Stern wasn't happy with the Elwin video, then it's a win for Elwin. I bet he doesn't want to do that for Stern on all his future designs anyway.
Quoted from superNoid:I know this would never happen but it would be fun if when you hit Start game, Quint said "Here's to swimmin' with bowlegged women!". And when you drain, this song played...
End of game would be great for this video! I could totally see this playing as the bonus totals are running up and the Dreyfuss face at the end with “Game Over”. Perfect. Lol
Quoted from NeilMcRae:isn't he a shill for Pedreti now ? (just kidding man )
Wtf, no!! But good memory...I am interested to see what they come up with and at what price point!
Quoted from iceman44:So the Elwin video wasn't up to par? I thought it laid out what the game was all about in 16 minutes from a great player and designer of the game. Spot on.
Elwin is just kind of like the pinball version of Bill Belichick personality wise
Both an similarily unanimated, but Belichick can be a prickly jerk while Keith is a humble, pleasant guy
When people say the Jaws boat looks like the Stugots from Sopranos, they're missing a key distinction: the boat eats the balls on Sopranos. The safe also eats balls. And there is a handsome looking fish with moving jaws off to the side. Delightful game
Quoted from TreyBo69:When people say the Jaws boat looks like the Stugots from Sopranos, they're missing a key distinction: the boat eats the balls on Sopranos. The safe also eats balls. And there is a handsome looking fish with moving jaws off to the side. Delightful game
Way to twist the knife bro....
Quoted from Zablon:Way to twist the knife bro....
Sorry, I know people are still upset the giant fish in Sopranos doesn't actually eat the ball
Quoted from JoelOmatik:Don’t know if it’s already in there, but here’s a tilt animation idea: Quint smashing the radio.
Would be funny AF. It’s as if Quint himself tilted the game and Brody bitched him out over it. Hahaha
if the Stern IC has a network connectivity problem, the error screen could be Quint bashing the radio 
Quoted from marioparty34:3D glasses arrived today.
I am ready![quoted image]
Those are the good ones...
Quoted from Whistles:Those are the good ones...
How’s the 3-D look anyone experience it?
how could anyone be hyped about this game after watching Elwin struggle the entire stream to hit that ramp that leads to the upper pf. if he has a hard time hitting it what do you think the rest of us are going to do?
hoping he didn't pitch it right before the stream and Jack can show us that it just needs to be set up right but prob not lol. I'm sure elwin knows how to pitch and level a pinball machine.
I was expecting the shark toy to be more in line with the stranger things bash but even better. We didn’t get that!
Something like this could have been epic! No excuses I’m sorry but for the money they are charging I find it hard to believe that the engineers over at Stern were not able to find any possible way to make it work and at the same time make it exciting. Obviously I don’t know the internal details but i’d guess likely is they didn’t have enough time to get it right, maybe a budget issue etc. but I feel this is going to just continue to frustrate a handful of loyal buyers who are spending top dollar and way less
This is what it needed!
Bash the shark a few times and then a small jump ramp would pop up and you shoot the jump ramp into the shark mouth.
First the shark grabs/eats it and takes the ball under water / under the playfield kind of like how the Thing/Hand does it in Addams family.
This then activates a lower playfield, located in a similar position to where they have it in the big Lebowski. Now the shark fight continues, but under the playfield. Likely, the G.I. lights in the upper playfield would go dark..
While you’re battling the shark under the playfield, every time you hit the shark, all of the lights in the machine strobe red which represents blood. For LE owners the expression lighting in the speakers would be animated as well. After a few hits under the playfield, the shark swims back to the main playfield for the final kill shot. But this time it’s a different shark toy that appears.
This shark has blood stains all over it to represent what the shark would look like after taking all of the hits under the playfield (think of bride of pinbot, where the upper playfield can flip and have multiple playfields. Think champion pub. The boxer turns around and there’s the punching bag toy to hit).
Now load a crossbow toy for the final shot to kill the shark. Jump ramp comes back up so you can shoot the shark in the mouth and you destroy the shark mixed in with an epic light show with strobes going nuts, crazy shaker motor fx etc.
Maybe you have the choice of the crossbow or a flipper hit to kill the shark. if the Pinball registers that you use the crossbow to do the final killshot, then maybe that adds something like 2x play Field scoring for 30 seconds, or some kind of reward.
Maybe we’ll get something like that in Jaws 2 from the Jersey Jack Pinball team!!!
Quoted from TreyBo69:Sorry, I know people are still upset the giant fish in Sopranos doesn't actually eat the ball
That particular fish didn't eat anyone in Sopranos but it did talk/sing and I'm pretty sure it does that in the pinball machine.
Quoted from jeffgoldstein2:I was expecting the shark toy to be more in line with the stranger things bash but even better. We didn’t get that!
Something like this could have been epic! No excuses I’m sorry but for the money they are charging I find it hard to believe that the engineers over at Stern were not able to find any possible way to make it work and at the same time make it exciting.
This is what it needed!
Bash the shark a few times and then for the last shot a small jump ramp would pop up and you have one shot to get the ball in jaws mouth with the similar toy like from The Walking Dead crossbow.
Shoot the shark, shark eats it and takes the ball under the playfield similar to the Hand in Addams followed by an epic light show with strobes going nuts, crazy shaker motor, great sound effects.
Maybe we’ll get something like that in Jaws 2 from the Jersey Jack Pinball team!!!
Tell us how you really feel!
Any ideas if there is concern for playfield wear along track of moving fin or that swimming pool shaped cut out area around this fin track that is slightly unpainted (ala type of damage that occurs by scoops where Cliffy's help)?
I'm guessing it will be fine, but curious what others think or who have seen it in person.
Quoted from Zeusflurry:Any ideas if there is concern for playfield wear along track of moving fin or that swimming pool shaped cut out area around this fin track that is slightly unpainted (ala type of damage that occurs by scoops where Cliffy's help)?
I'm guessing it will be fine, but curious what others think or who have seen it in person.
I was under the impression this area was made of polycarbonate
Quoted from hypnotoad:That particular fish didn't eat anyone in Sopranos but it did talk/sing and I'm pretty sure it does that in the pinball machine.
Billy Bass?
Quoted from cleanandlevel:how could anyone be hyped about this game after watching Elwin struggle the entire stream to hit that ramp that leads to the upper pf. if he has a hard time hitting it what do you think the rest of us are going to do?
hoping he didn't pitch it right before the stream and Jack can show us that it just needs to be set up right but prob not lol. I'm sure elwin knows how to pitch and level a pinball machine.
Maybe it’s just a shot like GZ’s left ramp, Aliens side ramp, Bonds left orbit/ramp, JP’s tower ramp, or GB’s right ramp in that they are just tough shots .Just my opinion, but the day they stop adding tough shots to pinballs will be the day I stop buying/playing them.
I was expecting the shark toy to be more in line with the stranger things bash but even better. We didn’t get that!
Something like this could have been epic! No excuses I’m sorry but for the money they are charging I find it hard to believe that the engineers over at Stern were not able to find any possible way to make it work and at the same time make it exciting. Obviously I don’t know the internal details but i’d guess likely is they didn’t have enough time to get it right, maybe a budget issue etc. but I feel this is going to just continue to frustrate a handful of loyal buyers who are spending top dollar on games these days and getting less magic under the glass.
Here is my version of the shark battle which would provide an incredible Pinball moment!!!
Bash the shark a few times and then a small jump ramp would pop up and you shoot the jump ramp into the shark mouth.
First the shark grabs/eats it and takes the ball under water / under the playfield kind of like how the Thing/Hand does it in Addams family.
This then activates a lower playfield, located in a similar position to where they have it in the big Lebowski. Now the shark fight continues, but under the playfield. Likely, the G.I. lights in the upper playfield would go dark..
While you’re battling the shark under the playfield, every time you hit the shark, all of the lights in the machine strobe red which represents blood. For LE owners the expression lighting in the speakers would be animated as well. After a few hits under the playfield, the shark swims back to the main playfield for the final kill shot. But this time it’s a different shark toy that appears.
This shark has blood stains all over it to represent what the shark would look like after taking all of the hits under the playfield (think of bride of pinbot, where the upper playfield can flip and have multiple playfields. Think champion pub. The boxer turns around and there’s the punching bag toy to hit).
Now load a crossbow toy for the final shot to kill the shark. Jump ramp comes back up so you can shoot the shark in the mouth and you destroy the shark mixed in with an epic light show with strobes going nuts, crazy shaker motor fx etc.
Maybe you have the choice of the crossbow or a flipper hit to kill the shark. if the Pinball registers that you use the crossbow to do the final killshot, then maybe that adds something like 2x play Field scoring for 30 seconds, or some kind of reward.
Maybe we’ll get something like that in Jaws 2 from the Jersey Jack Pinball team!!!
Quoted from jeffgoldstein2:I was expecting the shark toy to be more in line with the stranger things bash but even better. We didn’t get that!
Something like this could have been epic! No excuses I’m sorry but for the money they are charging I find it hard to believe that the engineers over at Stern were not able to find any possible way to make it work and at the same time make it exciting. Obviously I don’t know the internal details but i’d guess likely is they didn’t have enough time to get it right, maybe a budget issue etc. but I feel this is going to just continue to frustrate a handful of loyal buyers who are spending top dollar on games these days and getting less magic under the glass.Here is my version of the shark battle which would provide an incredible Pinball moment!!!
Bash the shark a few times and then a small jump ramp would pop up and you shoot the jump ramp into the shark mouth.
First the shark grabs/eats it and takes the ball under water / under the playfield kind of like how the Thing/Hand does it in Addams family.
This then activates a lower playfield, located in a similar position to where they have it in the big Lebowski. Now the shark fight continues, but under the playfield. Likely, the G.I. lights in the upper playfield would go dark..
While you’re battling the shark under the playfield, every time you hit the shark, all of the lights in the machine strobe red which represents blood. For LE owners the expression lighting in the speakers would be animated as well. After a few hits under the playfield, the shark swims back to the main playfield for the final kill shot. But this time it’s a different shark toy that appears.
This shark has blood stains all over it to represent what the shark would look like after taking all of the hits under the playfield (think of bride of pinbot, where the upper playfield can flip and have multiple playfields. Think champion pub. The boxer turns around and there’s the punching bag toy to hit).
Now load a crossbow toy for the final shot to kill the shark. Jump ramp comes back up so you can shoot the shark in the mouth and you destroy the shark mixed in with an epic light show with strobes going nuts, crazy shaker motor fx etc.
Maybe you have the choice of the crossbow or a flipper hit to kill the shark. if the Pinball registers that you use the crossbow to do the final killshot, then maybe that adds something like 2x play Field scoring for 30 seconds, or some kind of reward.
Maybe we’ll get something like that in Jaws 2 from the Jersey Jack Pinball team!!!
Cool but now they need to charge Big Lebowski money and people rage even harder about prices these days
Quoted from Kkoss24:Maybe it’s just a shot like GZ’s left ramp, Aliens side ramp, Bonds left orbit/ramp, JP’s tower ramp, or GB’s right ramp in that they are just tough shots .Just my opinion, but the day they stop adding tough shots to pinballs will be the day I stop buying/playing them.
One of the most satisfying shots in pinball is the treehouse ramp on TSPP. I land that shot maybe one out of every eight attempts.
Quoted from jeffgoldstein2:I was expecting the shark toy to be more in line with the stranger things bash but even better. We didn’t get that!
Something like this could have been epic! No excuses I’m sorry but for the money they are charging I find it hard to believe that the engineers over at Stern were not able to find any possible way to make it work and at the same time make it exciting. Obviously I don’t know the internal details but i’d guess likely is they didn’t have enough time to get it right, maybe a budget issue etc. but I feel this is going to just continue to frustrate a handful of loyal buyers who are spending top dollar on games these days and getting less magic under the glass.
Here is my version of the shark battle which would provide an incredible Pinball moment!!!
Bash the shark a few times and then a small jump ramp would pop up and you shoot the jump ramp into the shark mouth.
First the shark grabs/eats it and takes the ball under water / under the playfield kind of like how the Thing/Hand does it in Addams family.
This then activates a lower playfield, located in a similar position to where they have it in the big Lebowski. Now the shark fight continues, but under the playfield. Likely, the G.I. lights in the upper playfield would go dark..
While you’re battling the shark under the playfield, every time you hit the shark, all of the lights in the machine strobe red which represents blood. For LE owners the expression lighting in the speakers would be animated as well. After a few hits under the playfield, the shark swims back to the main playfield for the final kill shot. But this time it’s a different shark toy that appears.
This shark has blood stains all over it to represent what the shark would look like after taking all of the hits under the playfield (think of bride of pinbot, where the upper playfield can flip and have multiple playfields. Think champion pub. The boxer turns around and there’s the punching bag toy to hit).
Now load a crossbow toy for the final shot to kill the shark. Jump ramp comes back up so you can shoot the shark in the mouth and you destroy the shark mixed in with an epic light show with strobes going nuts, crazy shaker motor fx etc.
Maybe you have the choice of the crossbow or a flipper hit to kill the shark. if the Pinball registers that you use the crossbow to do the final killshot, then maybe that adds something like 2x play Field scoring for 30 seconds, or some kind of reward.
Maybe we’ll get something like that in Jaws 2 from the Jersey Jack Pinball team!!!
I would think it had to have got cut from the budget. They had plenty of time and is anyone really going to believe this crew couldn’t make it happen? It’s not in there and I’m just going to move forward with what is. Found out we’re getting a pro at league and have to check with other locations to find a prem. It’s new pin time and I’m chomping at the bits!
Quoted from Kkoss24:Maybe it’s just a shot like GZ’s left ramp, Aliens side ramp, Bonds left orbit/ramp, JP’s tower ramp, or GB’s right ramp in that they are just tough shots .Just my opinion, but the day they stop adding tough shots to pinballs will be the day I stop buying/playing them.
This is what I feel 100%.
I put a couple hours on a Jaws, and that shot is a tough one, and I feel it's meant to be.
Additionally, it has a cool feature where if you almost get it up to the top, but fail, it drops the ball down into the right wireform to feed your flipper for another attempt.
Quoted from BRW84:One of the most satisfying shots in pinball is the treehouse ramp on TSPP. I land that shot maybe one out of every eight attempts.
Which is that? I’ve just played it for the first time recently and very cool so far.
Quick random question about Pinside Top 100 list.
Why in the last 2 weeks does every game and every rating score have blue ovals with either a "NEW" or "*" inside them. Wasn't sure where else to ask this question. Just a curious mind and hope these blue ovals go away at some point.
Quoted from Kkoss24:Which is that? I’ve just played it for the first time recently and very cool so far.
It's a shot from the upper right flipper up a ramp that leads to the upper playfield; I've played three different TSPPs and it's tough as hell on every one. It starts the Treehouse of Horror mode if you have it lit.
Quoted from NeilMcRae:isn't he a shill for Pedreti now ? (just kidding man )
Aren’t you a shrill for Stern lol
(Just kidding man)
Quoted from blueberryjohnson:I don't know, I think they may be onto something. For decades, when people think "Keith Elwin" they think about his famously hype and hyper, bouncing off the walls energy and demeanor. But none of that is present in the new Jaws video with him.
Watch all the other game launch videos he has been in and see if you still think that.
Quoted from jeffgoldstein2:I was expecting the shark toy to be more in line with the stranger things bash but even better. We didn’t get that!
Something like this could have been epic! No excuses I’m sorry but for the money they are charging I find it hard to believe that the engineers over at Stern were not able to find any possible way to make it work and at the same time make it exciting. Obviously I don’t know the internal details but i’d guess likely is they didn’t have enough time to get it right, maybe a budget issue etc. but I feel this is going to just continue to frustrate a handful of loyal buyers who are spending top dollar on games these days and getting less magic under the glass.
Here is my version of the shark battle which would provide an incredible Pinball moment!!!
Bash the shark a few times and then a small jump ramp would pop up and you shoot the jump ramp into the shark mouth.
First the shark grabs/eats it and takes the ball under water / under the playfield kind of like how the Thing/Hand does it in Addams family.
This then activates a lower playfield, located in a similar position to where they have it in the big Lebowski. Now the shark fight continues, but under the playfield. Likely, the G.I. lights in the upper playfield would go dark..
While you’re battling the shark under the playfield, every time you hit the shark, all of the lights in the machine strobe red which represents blood. For LE owners the expression lighting in the speakers would be animated as well. After a few hits under the playfield, the shark swims back to the main playfield for the final kill shot. But this time it’s a different shark toy that appears.
This shark has blood stains all over it to represent what the shark would look like after taking all of the hits under the playfield (think of bride of pinbot, where the upper playfield can flip and have multiple playfields. Think champion pub. The boxer turns around and there’s the punching bag toy to hit).
Now load a crossbow toy for the final shot to kill the shark. Jump ramp comes back up so you can shoot the shark in the mouth and you destroy the shark mixed in with an epic light show with strobes going nuts, crazy shaker motor fx etc.
Maybe you have the choice of the crossbow or a flipper hit to kill the shark. if the Pinball registers that you use the crossbow to do the final killshot, then maybe that adds something like 2x play Field scoring for 30 seconds, or some kind of reward.
Maybe we’ll get something like that in Jaws 2 from the Jersey Jack Pinball team!!!
I find it funny you envisioned something like the STr bash toy when many can't shoot into the mouth of the Demogorgon on that game. They would probably have to the triple the BOM on a game to achieve anything close to what you are proposing and the more involved these toys are they tend to not work fully or break a ton.
Quoted from jeffgoldstein2:I was expecting the shark toy to be more in line with the stranger things bash but even better. We didn’t get that!
Something like this could have been epic! No excuses I’m sorry but for the money they are charging I find it hard to believe that the engineers over at Stern were not able to find any possible way to make it work and at the same time make it exciting. Obviously I don’t know the internal details but i’d guess likely is they didn’t have enough time to get it right, maybe a budget issue etc. but I feel this is going to just continue to frustrate a handful of loyal buyers who are spending top dollar on games these days and getting less magic under the glass.
Here is my version of the shark battle which would provide an incredible Pinball moment!!!
Bash the shark a few times and then a small jump ramp would pop up and you shoot the jump ramp into the shark mouth.
First the shark grabs/eats it and takes the ball under water / under the playfield kind of like how the Thing/Hand does it in Addams family.
This then activates a lower playfield, located in a similar position to where they have it in the big Lebowski. Now the shark fight continues, but under the playfield. Likely, the G.I. lights in the upper playfield would go dark..
While you’re battling the shark under the playfield, every time you hit the shark, all of the lights in the machine strobe red which represents blood. For LE owners the expression lighting in the speakers would be animated as well. After a few hits under the playfield, the shark swims back to the main playfield for the final kill shot. But this time it’s a different shark toy that appears.
This shark has blood stains all over it to represent what the shark would look like after taking all of the hits under the playfield (think of bride of pinbot, where the upper playfield can flip and have multiple playfields. Think champion pub. The boxer turns around and there’s the punching bag toy to hit).
Now load a crossbow toy for the final shot to kill the shark. Jump ramp comes back up so you can shoot the shark in the mouth and you destroy the shark mixed in with an epic light show with strobes going nuts, crazy shaker motor fx etc.
Maybe you have the choice of the crossbow or a flipper hit to kill the shark. if the Pinball registers that you use the crossbow to do the final killshot, then maybe that adds something like 2x play Field scoring for 30 seconds, or some kind of reward.
Maybe we’ll get something like that in Jaws 2 from the Jersey Jack Pinball team!!!
You'd be perfect at JJP, you should send them your CV, they need more designers to create half a game that they never finish.
Observing that the people who most dislike the game are ones who haven't played it and people who have played it really like it. If only I could determine whose opinion to value more!
Quoted from Zeusflurry:Any ideas if there is concern for playfield wear along track of moving fin or that swimming pool shaped cut out area around this fin track that is slightly unpainted (ala type of damage that occurs by scoops where Cliffy's help)?
I'm guessing it will be fine, but curious what others think or who have seen it in person.
You probably can’t play it enough in your lifetime to worry about it.
Quoted from blueberryjohnson:Observing that the people who most dislike the game are ones who haven't played it and people who have played it really like it. If only I could determine whose opinion to value more!
Sounds a lot like EJ as well
Why wouldn’t anybody like how JAWS plays? Elwin video got me excited. Won’t get one now but maybe later. Probably later.
Quoted from Yipykya:White armor with a shark bite. And if your home pin isn't in a line up with other pins, the shiny cabinet sides.
Didn't they already show the add on armour you can buy on the premium on one video?
dsfdsfds (resized).pngQuoted from NeilMcRae:You'd be perfect at JJP, you should send them your CV, they need more designers to create half a game that they never finish.
Bless your heart your at it again
Quoted from kevmo:Didn't they already show the add on armour you can buy on the premium on one video?
https://www.instagram.com/the_80s_garage/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=c550b1f0-3722-44bc-8720-3230fb16264f
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Yep and the art blades, those are not the same as the LEs.
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