And thank god for them.
But I really don't see the appeal of paying an extra 3 grand for...
powder-coated armor (cost to Stern... $200)
a shaker ($50)
a shooter rod ($50)
art blades ($25)
better speaker ($100)
better lights ($50)
a different art package ($0)
manufactured scarcity ($0)
an autograph ($5)
one can easily upgrade a premium for under $1000 and the rest is just autographs and marketing.
But whatever, people collect sneakers too.
bring on the down votes.
Quoted from JakeFAttie:And thank god for them.
But I really don't see the appeal of paying an extra 3 grand for...
powder-coated armor (cost to Stern... $200)
a shaker ($50)
a shooter rod ($50)
art blades ($25)
better speaker ($100)
better lights ($50)
a different art package ($0)
manufactured scarcity ($0)
an autograph ($5)
one can easily upgrade a premium for under $1000 and the rest is just autographs and marketing.
But whatever, people collect sneakers too.
bring on the down votes.
Speechless. Nothing to say after that.
Quoted from JakeFAttie:And thank god for them.
But I really don't see the appeal of paying an extra 3 grand for...
powder-coated armor (cost to Stern... $200)
a shaker ($50)
a shooter rod ($50)
art blades ($25)
better speaker ($100)
better lights ($50)
a different art package ($0)
manufactured scarcity ($0)
an autograph ($5)
one can easily upgrade a premium for under $1000 and the rest is just autographs and marketing.
But whatever, people collect sneakers too.
bring on the down votes.
You forgot the best feature of the LE…. An actual backglass
That's the exact same logic my wife uses every single time I buy another game. Doesn't phase me either.
Quoted from JakeFAttie:And thank god for them.
But I really don't see the appeal of paying an extra 3 grand for...
powder-coated armor (cost to Stern... $200)
a shaker ($50)
a shooter rod ($50)
art blades ($25)
better speaker ($100)
better lights ($50)
a different art package ($0)
manufactured scarcity ($0)
an autograph ($5)
one can easily upgrade a premium for under $1000 and the rest is just autographs and marketing.
But whatever, people collect sneakers too.
bring on the down votes.
I've been in the hobby 42 yrs now, and want the best version of a game I think I might keep. Several games I own now were first bought as a pro or prem, then upgraded. Prices are stupid I agree, but I can bitch and not buy, or bitch and buy. 
Quoted from JakeFAttie:And thank god for them.
But I really don't see the appeal of paying an extra 3 grand for...
powder-coated armor (cost to Stern... $200)
a shaker ($50)
a shooter rod ($50)
art blades ($25)
better speaker ($100)
better lights ($50)
a different art package ($0)
manufactured scarcity ($0)
an autograph ($5)
one can easily upgrade a premium for under $1000 and the rest is just autographs and marketing.
But whatever, people collect sneakers too.
bring on the down votes.
I like the fact that a completely different art package costs $0, but that coveted autograph costs $5 hehehehe.
Quoted from John-Floyd:Invisiglass…
Must be free also lol
I don’t buy many games, but when I do, it’s the Le baby
These are pricey items at any trim, but I want the best that Uncle Stern comes up with
Jaws Le incoming, can’t friggin’ wait!
Quoted from JakeFAttie:And thank god for them.
But I really don't see the appeal of paying an extra 3 grand for...
powder-coated armor (cost to Stern... $200)
a shaker ($50)
a shooter rod ($50)
art blades ($25)
better speaker ($100)
better lights ($50)
a different art package ($0)
manufactured scarcity ($0)
an autograph ($5)
one can easily upgrade a premium for under $1000 and the rest is just autographs and marketing.
But whatever, people collect sneakers too.
bring on the down votes.
Good luck on the actual mirrored backglass.
I’m still laughing at your 2010 prices too. No one powder coats for 200 these days.
Quoted from JakeFAttie:And thank god for them.
But I really don't see the appeal of paying an extra 3 grand for...
powder-coated armor (cost to Stern... $200)
a shaker ($50)
a shooter rod ($50)
art blades ($25)
better speaker ($100)
better lights ($50)
a different art package ($0)
manufactured scarcity ($0)
an autograph ($5)
one can easily upgrade a premium for under $1000 and the rest is just autographs and marketing.
But whatever, people collect sneakers too.
bring on the down votes.
How do you know what it costs Stern? Do you not pay an artist for their different art?
What a load of horse shit.
You're missing the point. With an LE the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. You're getting the best model and it's limited. It makes you better than everyone else and having the best thing that others can't get is priceless.
Quoted from arcyallen:I agree that LEs are a low value proposition. But of course, most people I know think PINBALL is a low value proposition. And yet, here we are.
To each their own.
Yep… literally every non-pinball person I know thinks it’s crazy to spend thousands of $$$ when you can just play them for $1.00 at the local bar/arcade/bowling alley.
I have never understood while people try to flex some sort of fiscal superiority for “only” spending $7000 or $9600 on their toy. When the same game can be played for $1.00
That's just silly....
Because you can get just as good upgraded speakers for like 30 on amazon that do the same. 
Quoted from Deez:You're missing the point. With an LE the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. You're getting the best model and it's limited. It makes you better than everyone else and having the best thing that others can't get is priceless.
*looks at the market*
Seems like they ain't priceless, and most going for 3K off the original retail price. Does that make people feel better? Having overpaid and not being that limited?
Quoted from titanpenguin:Good luck on the actual mirrored backglass.
I’m still laughing at your 2010 prices too. No one powder coats for 200 these days.
We have folks getting their armor powder coated for 300-400 for one set. Stern is doing it in bulk of 1000+ units, they are paying bulk pricing if not doing it in house for a whole lot less.
When I bought my Foo LE, Prems were basically $10k. If I’m gonna spend that much, might as well get all the nice stuff built in - plus Expression Lights. You can never add foil cabinet art & mirrored backglass to a Prem.
Now that LE prices on the used market have come down - a Foo LE at sub $10k is a great buy. No one who grabs one at that price is a sucker. Buying a Prem when an LE is avail at almost the same price is the sucker move.
Quoted from PanzerKraken:That's just silly....
Because you can get just as good upgraded speakers for like 30 on amazon that do the same.*looks at the market*
Seems like they ain't priceless, and most going for 3K off the original retail price. Does that make people feel better? Having overpaid and not being that limited?We have folks getting their armor powder coated for 300-400 for one set. Stern is doing it in bulk of 1000+ units, they are paying bulk pricing if not doing it in house for a whole lot less.
I get what you are saying, but if we are going to “build” our LE’s, gotta use the going rate, not what stern pays.
Quoted from DBLM:We can always count on the OP to try and make some spicy posts.
Yeah he started the thread dropping da bomb and moved on.
Quoted from JakeFAttie:And thank god for them.
But I really don't see the appeal of paying an extra 3 grand for...
powder-coated armor (cost to Stern... $200)
a shaker ($50)
a shooter rod ($50)
art blades ($25)
better speaker ($100)
better lights ($50)
a different art package ($0)
manufactured scarcity ($0)
an autograph ($5)
one can easily upgrade a premium for under $1000 and the rest is just autographs and marketing.
But whatever, people collect sneakers too.
bring on the down votes.
You just single handedly killed the market for LE’s…Stern will never sell any more of them. Now what’s your take on toppers?
Quoted from BudManPinFan:You just single handedly killed the market for LE’s…Stern will never sell any more of them. Now what’s your take on toppers?
I sincerely have no opinion on toppers. Not my thing, but at least they aren't part of the pinside top 100 rankings...
Quoted from JakeFAttie:And thank god for them.
But I really don't see the appeal of paying an extra 3 grand for...
powder-coated armor (cost to Stern... $200)
a shaker ($50)
a shooter rod ($50)
art blades ($25)
better speaker ($100)
better lights ($50)
a different art package ($0)
manufactured scarcity ($0)
an autograph ($5)
one can easily upgrade a premium for under $1000 and the rest is just autographs and marketing.
But whatever, people collect sneakers too.
bring on the down votes.
I'm a premium guy, and have never gone for a Stern LE although I have had a couple in my house on temp trades or to sell for friends. I like LEs, but for the most part they are not for me. However, I will say that on a few select themes I would absolutlely go all in on an LE knowing that it would be worth it for me and that I'd be keeping it forever.
Weird Al is/was my dream theme. I ordered an LE day 1 and cleared out a bunch of pins to raise funds for it. If it was reliable I'd still have it.
If Stern announced they were making Weird Al tomorrow, I'd be all in on an LE... but thats it as far as LEs go for me.
Everyone has that "dream theme". Some people with the means will go for the LE even if it isn't really worth the money on paper because its something they love. How much money do people have in ports memorabilia, purses, and pokemon cards?
Furthermore, many of the people with LEs just have alot of disposable income. Someone spending LE money may be spending a decade's worth of blow money... or a week's.
I don't shame anyone's pinball purchases. When I first got in I thought people buying NIB Stern Pros at 5k were nuts... why do that when you can get a nice DMD for $2500?
Quoted from JakeFAttie:I sincerely have no opinion on toppers. Not my thing, but at least they aren't part of the pinside top 100 rankings...
I have come to really like them... but they are by no means a requirement. "Why does your pinball machine need a hat?" Because I like it darn it!
Quoted from JakeFAttie:And thank god for them.
But I really don't see the appeal of paying an extra 3 grand for...
powder-coated armor (cost to Stern... $200)
a shaker ($50)
a shooter rod ($50)
art blades ($25)
better speaker ($100)
better lights ($50)
a different art package ($0)
manufactured scarcity ($0)
an autograph ($5)
one can easily upgrade a premium for under $1000 and the rest is just autographs and marketing.
But whatever, people collect sneakers too.
bring on the down votes.
An LE should only cost 1000 usd more than a premium
Quoted from RCA1:Wow, art is free.
I gotta get me some more of that.
You make it sound like the art on the LE is always better. Often times it's much worse.
Well since both the other threads are now locked, I just want to say Congratulation to Everyone who was In Before The Lock! It's a magnificent achievement and I only wish pinside had some way of tracking and rewarding such audacious behavior! Maybe a new badge; "Lock-breaker"?
Quoted from JakeFAttie:Really folks, I apologize, I thought I drained this thread almost immediately after posting it.
Then why post it in the first place? Kind of a bitchass move to lob an insult and run off instead of standing by it.
Quoted from Rarehero:Then why post it in the first place? Kind of a bitchass move to lob an insult and run off instead of standing by it.
An honest mistake, I almost immediately regretted posting it and I though I was erasing it.
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Now you have to buy a Hulk LE, sucka!!!
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