maybe its a topper

No way... there is a Willy Wonka pinball?

on the phone with my distrib now.

and its only 10K

soon as I find a buyer for my left nut Im buying one.

You guys know we are in a pandemic right??

Manufacturing has shutdown across the board on and off for months... suppliers have not been making parts etc.

I know in my business I have not been able to get some needed products for months... they have not been being made and any inventory is long gone.

Thats not a supposedly... they build what has been pre-sold because they are smart.

distribs take the risk on these games and hope they can sell what they put in for.

Stern does everything they can to only make pre-sold goods.

Yah this.. the people that arent exactly hurting for dough would maybe buy one at 12k or whatever but they dont care about the price anyways.

Anyone else is going to figure.. cool now prices will drop and Ill wait it out.

The only thing driving price up is FOMO and lack of pins for sale.. once more are in the market that goes away.

Good lord.. the guy takes time out of his day to actually give some real world basic honest info and still gets kicked in the nuts.

Most of the speculation (during a pandemic no less which is royally f-ing up manufacturing for tons of companies) on here about how business or manufacturing actually work is so off base its embarrassing.

It is pretty funny that JJP always talks about innovation...

In this case Stern has done like 10 pins with craggy old ass rock bands so now they are innovating by doing one too?

Way to think outside the box.

Its grammar...

double post

nah I dont care.. just thought it was funny.

Yah I had a borrowed one for a bit... if its setup correctly it shoots great.

First JJ I would say that about.

OK this one i will give you.. I like Lawlor games.

It shoots nice but the rest of it had zero appeal to me. I forget it even exists.

Wonka I thought was tons of fun.

I was a rock fan and I didnt own it.. just sounded like recycled 70s Aerosmith to me.

The only reason they stood out like a sore thumb was hair metal and similar cheez was popular.... (although if you look at the Jungle video check out Axl's Poison like mega spray hairdo). lol

I think its a good record but hardly anything new or innovative about it.... people act like they invented rock and roll.

Pretty amazing how clueless people are unless they are in business.... doing normal biz has been next to impossible since Feb.

I have customers begging me for product that I cant sell because it doesnt exist.

Manufacturing stalled out for months (hence no TP, hand wipes or whatever else your store was always out of), things I could get and sell like clockwork havent been in the market for months.

If they can get pins out this year at all they have done a great job.

I hope no one does Evil Dead

if it looked even decent Id have to get one and I hate buying NIB

While you all are waiting maybe try and play some Wonka... not just bang a game on it, actually try and learn whats going on.

That game gets some shit but to me was the most fun Ive had with a pin in a few years once I learned the rules (and yes that includes Sterns and others) .

I owned about 15 "classics" at one point a few years ago so not exactly new to pinball either.

Yup.. one of those games you cant just judge by a few games.

Always funny to me when people put two games on something and then say it sucks forever.

I played Wonka a few times and thought it wasnt that great but I had no clue what to shoot or why.

Then had one in the house where I could learn what to do, and it became one of my favorites.

yah Im with you there... I dont dislike them but I always just felt they were ripping off 70s Aerosmith (which they were ask Slash what his favorite record was)

Plus when they came out they were trying to ride the hair metal wave a bit.. check out Axls hair in the jungle video, looks like a chick from a Poison video.

machine looks badass though so Ill at least check it out.