Raven

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This game received 38 approved Pinsider ratings and currently rates 5.879 /10

5.879

Top 100 ranking

This game ranks #370 in the Pinside Pinball Top 100.


Score breakdown

Score breakdown in the 4 main categories:

Game design: 6.302

Artwork: 5.079

Sounds/Music: 5.681

Other Aspects: 5.734



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6.997

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5.577/10
6 months ago
I like the theme , pretty fun but pretty ugly game.
If your collection is large or you can get one for cheap, this one could be nice to play for a while.
6.372/10
11 months ago
I've owned a Raven and I really liked it. The Music is great and left ramp shot is challenging. While this may not be a long time keeper in my collection, I still enjoy picking up a few games on this machine.
6.207/10
1 year ago
Sure the Translite is horrible... But that's part of the charm. It's fun to play and shots are good. Nice little pin. Give it a try before you pass judgement
6.524/10
1 year ago
I agree with the previous reviewer. People write the game off just because of the bad backglass. It can be picked up cheap and plays pretty well. Ramp shot is tough, you have to be spot on with the right amount of speed or you won’t make it. It’s not an easy game for points and like others have said, I find myself rarely breaking 1M.

Definitely do the ground mods or you will eventually have issues with this and all other 80b’s.

Raven is a classic 80’s Gottlieb in the series of horrible photographic backglasses but don’t let that steer you away, this and other Gottliebs from the same period are surprisingly fun and very inexpensive.
7.958/10
1 year ago
The crime here is that people write this game off because the translite art is not to their liking. If it bothers you that much, buy an alternate translite. Let me leave you in on a little secret- this game is a great bang for the buck machine. There are far worse playing machines out there, but you wouldn't know it by the ratings. The random sniper drops are very unique and fun. The ramp shot is a bit of a letdown, so you should be playing the spinner and the top lanes to increase your score multiplier if you are looking for points. Give this machine more of a chance...there are games out there 2x and 3x more expensive that are just not at all fun.
5.763/10
1 year ago
The back glass kills this game before you play it. I have see an alternate back glass someone had made and it changed the game by 50% for the better. There is nothing like seeing this backglass in your line up. Looks like something you bought from Sears.
6.146/10
2 years ago
Always heard this is the worst game out there...not great by any means but it is fun. The stand up “snipers” are a unique feature and I like th flow of the ramps. Not an A title but not the worst.
7.566/10
2 years ago
Although I'm not a fan of either the backglass or the cabinet, I think the Raven is still, not that bad. The game is fast enough and it has a lot to do. Perhaps the best SYS 80B after the Genesis.
1.582/10
2 years ago
I had to play this game in competition at Pinburgh, and I was reminded of why it might possibly be the worst machine produced of all-time. From the horrible theme and incredibly cheaply-produced artwork to the nearly unplayable rule set to the cheesy mid 80's flippers to the dim and tiny LED scoring, and the hard to see playing field, I have tried hard to find one redeeming feature about this mess, and have failed.
8.232/10
2 years ago
I've had this game for a few months now and I still enjoy playing it. It has a lot of different features that you can shoot for and the music and sound effects compliment the gameplay. It is one of the better 80's Gottlieb machines in my opinion.
3.068/10
2 years ago
Another John Trudeau masterpiece. Dangerous stand up targets, a ramp worth nothing and a spinner worth way too much making it the only shot in the game. Does John Trudeau play pinball? Unlike the other reviews here, I like the back glass. Very 80s. Not enough strong female characters in pinball.
6.567/10
2 years ago
Raven really isn't all that bad. Obviously the art sucks but once you get past that, it's a nice Trudeau layout! To be honest, it's a brutally hard game! There's many close up shots that will send your ball SDTM. Additionally, the sniper pop-ups (yes, a la Medieval Madness!) will knock your r ball right back at you incredibly fast. While this game is not multiball, don't let that deter you (personally, I think this game is the perfect game for a returns project), this deck is a FUN one. Play on!
5.107/10
2 years ago
Great starter game. Like the pop up bumper action. Good machine for its price.
6.167/10
3 years ago
The backglass on this machine is OMG bad..some like it ..but cheese please.The is just Blah so that is most of the drawback, the game play is ok .The helicopter spinner is kinda neat. The sniper pop up shots are nice skill shots. A good starter pin for a cheaper machine.
5.603/10
3 years ago
Game Design: The game's similarity to firepower in layout is it's strongest feature and also one of it's greatest downfalls. The sniper drop targets are fun to hit and aim for, but everything else on the game falls flat. The ramp shot is tough to make, and not rewarding enough, and the layout just makes you wish you were playing a Firepower. Lack of multiball is disappointing, and spotting a standup target with the scanning lights is more luck than skill. The helicopter that spins it blades when you hit the spinner is a neat gimmick, though.

Artwork, Sound, and Music: Bad translight, underwhelming cabinet artwork, and a poor focus on sound make this game as disappointing to look at as it is to play. The only redeeming feature is the playfield art: It is detailed and well thought out. It's a shame that the rest of the game doesn't follow suit.

Overall: This is certainly a below average game. Definitely a dud. Worth playing only for the sole reason to say "I've played that game before!"
4.055/10
4 years ago
I try hard to love the underdogs of the pinball world, but Raven has fallen flat for me. The first time I shot for the orbits to get the rollovers done to lower the ramp, then made that ramp... and scored only 50k... well, my heart drooped. That was it? That was the big reward?
The key shot is going over the inlanes to light the spinner for 10k a spin momentarily.
So many standup targets, you'd think it'd be more interesting to shoot at all 10? In the end the sniper modes tend to be more tedious than anything, and at first I had such high hopes for them.
Props to the developers for having so many rules controlled via the dipswitches, but even with them I couldn't find an intriguing ruleset that made the game more fun.

With a modern CPU and new programming this game could ACTUALLY be tonnes of fun. My mind spins with the clever rules one could theoretically put in place. Progress saved between balls! Completed standup banks build rewards! Better ramp utilization! Pops modes!
But alas, we are currently stuck with what we have, and it's just not that great.
2.500/10
4 years ago
Well, I'm not sure what happened here. Maybe they were trying to capitalize on the Rambo movie franchise, without paying the licensing, and also trying to do a bit of girl power at the same time. Whatever happened here, I'm not exactly sure. What is clear is that they managed to produce and sell some of these Raven machines. So I have to give them credit for that. It lights up, it plays, it has shots. But there's nothing special about this machine at all that makes me want to play it even on free play - unless there's nothing else at all around to play, that is.
8.396/10
4 years ago
I have had this game for going on a year now, I still enjoy playing it. The backglass art isn't the best but it isn't the worst, Playfield art isn't too bad and the cabinet also isn't bad. The key to enjoying this game over the long haul is to not worry about the score. If you you want to have fun with it, work on getting the special and extra ball. The snipers are challenging as is the drop down ramp.

I am guessing the people who really don't like this game are focusing on points. If you just want points bang on the spinner all day, but that isn't where the fun is.

This is a good game to hone your ball control on. Alley pass, tap pass, post transfers and drop catching are key to enjoying this game.
6.997/10
4 years ago
The one thing you cannot but notice for Raven is its backglass. One of the worst of all times. But the game is better than that. Give it a try. It is not a hidden gem, but it plays decently. The Helicopter is a cool toy. Building up the bonus multiplier is fun. The left ramp is a bit too tight. Shooting the snipers is fun.
8.475/10
6 years ago
Though the backglass isn't the best, there are worse out there, the gameplay itself is excellent and the playfield artwork is alright, the ramp is cool and so are the snipers and the helicopter toy, an under rated game, don't judge a book by its cover! (or a pin by its backglass)
6.473/10
7 years ago
its fun trying to get the ramp down and get the sniper shots and its a decent game for its time. it gets old kind of quick and the translite is terrible. normally you can find one kinda cheap so i would say its worth the money for sure.
8.260/10
8 years ago
If only it sad rambo. Love the helicopter tho.
6.339/10
8 years ago
Rambo!! - NOT!! I wa never much of a Gottlieb fan, especially during that era (I liked some of their older machines). This one was a poor attempt to capitalize on current Pop culter (they didn't even go with a guy for Raven??)

The playfield theme was at best a jumbled combination of gimicks that were mostly unimpressive. Whose big idea was it to put the little plastic hellicopter in a playfield with a large steal ball flying around? I think the one we had broke the first week it was on location!
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