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Black Rose

Pinside rating

This game received 271 approved Pinsider ratings and currently rates 7.673 /10

7.673

Top 100 ranking

This game ranks #125 in the Pinside Pinball Top 100.


Score breakdown

Score breakdown in the 4 main categories:

Game design: 7.653

Artwork: 7.781

Sounds/Music: 7.038

Other Aspects: 7.806



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7.066

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7.752/10
61 days ago
Black Rose is a good game, especially for 1992. 2 distinctive ramps, with one going around behind the back of the playfield. A third ramp on the upper left raises, similar to BSD to expose a scoop leading to a subway which loads the cannon. This game has fairly simple code, and really is mostly about the cannon shot up the middle to sink ships. The cannon is a cool toy, and works well when dialed in. Not the smoothest shooter I’ve played, but the design is good, the theme is well-realized and it’s a challenge to sink several ships. Very different from potc, but a fun early dmd pin in its own right.
8.440/10
74 days ago
Black rose has TONS of charm. The theme, cannon, and behind the backboard shot are all quite fun. This would look great next to a stern potc and JJP POTC. For a Bally dmd, the price is great. The value is definitely there.
8.122/10
3 months ago
Shiver me timber’s!
7.079/10
5 months ago
All my reviews are going to follow a simple formula for those reading.
Number of shots to make - Pro's - Con's - Must Have Mods - What To Look For When Buying

Number of shots - 7 - above average

Pro's:
* Theme tie in is quite good
* Cannon is placed in a unique spot compared to other games with cannons
* Shooting around behind the backboard is a fun shot
* Short sharp video modes make good use of the fire button

Cons:
* Destroying a ship is the most valuable shot so scoring is imbalanced
* Even with a level cannon, ball travel can be erratic
* Very easy to get an extra ball each ball
* Quite simple rules, seems more like a system 11
* No skill shot

Must Have Mods: (Note I will not include things like LED's, Color DMD, Invisiglass or Speaker Upgrades unless it's really badly needed)
* Saw a shooter rod that looked like a sword and that was impressive
* Fire leds in the backbox

What To Look For When Buying
* Cannon plastic casing nearly always broken and very hard to find a replacement
* Wear around the cannon and where the ball drops from the habit trail common
* Ramps are pretty much unobtainable so make sure they are not broken
* Also look for wear around Davey Jones locker
8.352/10
7 months ago
I've had the machine about 4 weeks now. So far it's been a go to for any visitors not to mention i've played it a ton.
This game does not play near as well in the wild as it needs to have the cannon properly working, flat as possible, etc. so you'll be pleasantly surprised with how great it plays when dialed in at home.
typical recommended upgrades add a lot to it (color dmd, LED lighting, etc). This one really shines with pinsound as far as feeling updated. (My rating is based on pinsound installed) Added a little thicker post rubbers as this thing loves to drain down the sides.
As far as play, it is really fun. Rules aren't complex but there are many things to do. The davy jones shot to load the cannon can sometimes be tough to hit from the upper flipper but maybe i'm just no good. Sinking a ship is always satisfying and I'm glad it tracks the highest number so there is a target i'm always trying to beat. As far as a first/only pin, it would probably be ok especially if upgraded nicely. Plus it doesn't break the bank so pin #2 is probably right around the corner.

Update: Added Pinsound and it is so good for this game. i like it so much i created a soundtrack using music from others but i added better explosions, cannon fire and other effects and posted on the pinsound community.
still enjoying the game a bunch. Pinsound makes it shine. Speakers are decent enough you don't need to upgrade, may only want to add a sub.
9.380/10
9 months ago
Happened upon this game at a bar just down the street from Pacific Pinball Museum. Hadn't seen it before but after just a few rounds I'm completely hooked. Though the cannon shot is an easy one to return over and over there's enough incentive to play the board – and animations keeping things fun. Swim for shore!
6.967/10
11 months ago
Average..
9.100/10
11 months ago
Wonderful machine with a very long shot - maybe the longest in pinball history.
Definitely a keeper although the backglass could have been designed a bit better.
3.845/10
1 year ago
Awful table. One of the most boring and cheap of all time. The game even has the irony to mock you when you don't have perfect aim. You gotta aim a cannon? in a pinball game? come on, I want to play Pinball, not aim a cannon. The outlanes are pathetic and the ball will drain way too much. The game is so poorly designed that they won't even give you a chance to save the ball via magna save or other resource, the game won't even give you the chance to start scoring big. I won't play this machine again, there are many better out there, shame to you Bally, one of the worst machines you guys have made so far. That metal thing above the table ruins most of the view, pathetic that they won't even know where to place that thing.
6.462/10
1 year ago
Distinctly average game, nice backglass and cabinet. Just felt repetitive, with the cannon being interesting at first then boring, disappointed, I thought I would like it better than this. Hate saying it, but Stern's Pirates is a better game, would love to play JJP POTC.
8.664/10
1 year ago
Just played. Never came across one in the past. Really nice game. Very smart game play with high level of lastability. You just dond want to stop playing.
7.644/10
1 year ago
Great looking machine with outstanding artwork and a really cool video mode that let you walk the plank, out swim a shark, and throw knives! Black Rose is beautiful and fun to play, a sleeper pin for sure.
9.140/10
1 year ago
Fun game. Different layout makes it interesting.
5.603/10
1 year ago
This game sure looks great and is an eyecatcher in any lineup due to the cool pirate theme. Not many DMD games show this great combination of cabinet sideart, backbox and backglass that ties in with the general theme. Both music and call outs are also well integrated with this motive. As far as game play and playfield design goes- this is unfortunately a one (or maybe three-) trick pony.
There isnt really too much variety to the shots here and even the center attraction gimmick, the firing cannon, cannot change this impression. On top of that, the look of the playfield is totally dominated, I say destroyed, by a weird-looking habitrail that goes center from top to bottom, right over the flippers. This could have been done so much better.

For me personally the video modes on Black Rose dont benefit the playability at all, instead they create strange stops in what I want to be fast and furious action on the playfield- which is the reason I steered to a "pirate" pinball in the first place.

So even if this is not a total dud, it certainly comes across as a little underwhelming once you look past the awesome exterior of this admittingly beautiful game.
10.000/10
1 year ago
Black Rose is definately a sleeper pin and I'm absolutely shocked that this pin isn't rated higher. I mean come on it has everything a boy and man can dream of. Being a pirate on the open seas, knife throwing, walking the plank, firing a cannon!!! This is one pinball machine I'll never get rid of and I'm in the process of having every single piece of metal done in gold before I re decal this machine!!! If you've never played it in person you wouldn't understand as I didn't either. Once I played it I cannot stop coming back for more and more!!!! Long live Black Rose!!!!
7.808/10
1 year ago
The cannon feature alone (when it's properly aligned and works as it should) is enough to make me want to play the game; it feels really good to fire the cannon into the broadside :) I think the theme is nicely done and also interesting, who doesn't love pirates... Arrrrr! Music and SFX is good, but the sound quality could be better (as with many pins). The largest downside as an owner of this pin is the mechanical side; aligning the cannon is a PITA and don't get me started about gaining access to the backside of the broadside hole if needed. Apart from that its a fun game with a cool theme.
8.292/10
1 year ago
Great video modes but wish the scoring was more balanced. It holds the game back a bit
9.080/10
2 years ago
Joining the crew of Black Rose is a challenge that you will find yourself doing again...and again...and again. Though the thrill of the cannon takes center stage on the playfield, the layout is such that there are multiple strategies to employ - practically any shot results in satisfaction. The ramps and targets offer satisfying combos that are enjoyable to hit over and over. An epic soundtrack guides you through the game, with one of the most heart-pumping multiball tracks out there. It is a thrill to play this game.
7.653/10
2 years ago
Great theme! Who doesn't like pirates?

Great art package. Nice animations and sound/music.
A slight disappointment for me was that it plays like System 11 and not like other DMD's.
8.992/10
2 years ago
My rating came to a 9 from my choices which seems a little high if you were just asking for a number off the top of my head I would say7.5-8.it's a really fun game with some cool ramp shots in the top left corner but I find it gets a little easy for the experienced player.it is the favorite along with rfm for most of my non pinhead guests.
7.606/10
2 years ago
Damn this is a cool layout! I love the 3-bank standup targets that ricochet into each other! 3 ramps and a cannon built into the playfield too. Just plain cool. The game itself is pretty good. It has a little too much cannon and video mode for me. I'm more of a just plain pinball kind of guy.
8.296/10
2 years ago
Black Rose grew on me a lot. The cannon is a fun feature, although the seam created by it leads to a lot more SDTM shots. You have to bump this machine quite a bit. Once you get in the habit, your score will go up considerably. The animations & video mode are about as good as I've seen on a monochromatic DMD. I did check Color DMD's website & they do have a nice video showing this game in color. I like color DMD in general and on this game it looks amazing. The Davey Jones locker shot can get a bit repetitive, but is really it. Having played it 30 times, I will add it to my wishlist.
9.740/10
2 years ago
Of course it’s man against machine with quick smooth geometry nice complete story gets told through all presented go own one
8.240/10
2 years ago
I love this machine mostly due to it's unique spin on ramp layouts and integration of overall theme. It's super quick and super exciting for those who love the juggling type of shots. Theme wise it's a tad weird, but could still find it's home in my mostly horror themed collection since it's (kinda) scary ;). Only gripe I have really is the silly video modes that break the flow with min-games that have somewhat broken feeling mechanics. Especially in regards to the knife throwing bit. Bizarro. Otherwise this is a true gem, and one you should give a whirl!
7.402/10
2 years ago
I was really impressed by this game and like the rampsthe most. The cannon is very cool too but is hard to get... unlike Big Guns where you can fire a ball through the air with a lot less work.
I love a good pirate theme and this table delivers! Reminds me a lot of my smartphone app Pinball collection HD “pirates”. I didn’t get as much time on this table as I would like so I don’t know if the layout gets old. It is a very fun game in my opinion, and if it wasn’t a dot matrix $3k+ machine, I’d be more serious about trying to track one down.
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