Bad Cats

Williams

Bad Cats

Pinside Rating

This game received 110 approved Pinsider ratings and currently rates 7.584 /10

7.584

Top 100 ranking

This game ranks #175 in the Pinside Pinball Top 100.



Score breakdown

Score breakdown in the 4 main categories:

Game Design: 7.264

Artwork: 8.307

Sounds/Music: 6.603

Other Aspects: 7.706


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4.923/10
4 months ago
There are some fun shots to be had here but the sound effects are so jarring.
6.846/10
8 months ago
An ordinary, fun but forgettable game in a lot of ways. The scoring is unbalanced; shooting the left ramp repeatedly is the best way to get points by far. The theme is original, and it's got a lot of humorous sound effects. I enjoy it for the humor and original theme.
9.156/10
10 months ago
Something about this machine got into my brain and won't let go. Python's art is incredible, I love all the small details around the place. The music is catchy and the callouts are some of the best, "You one baaad caaat." The game flows well, and the seafood wheel is a fun addition.
7.015/10
1 year ago
Snagged one of these as a great deal at a pinball show with no background on the machine and... it's fun! However, it ranks as an average system 11 game to me, and not worth the premium price as compared to other similar System 11s. If I had to keep it forever I personally would rather have Whirlwind, Cyclone, and High Speed for starters... all of which currently sell for less than Bad Cats.

As for the game itself. It's fun! I switched out the rubbers on mine and it actually plays pretty fast. Hungry outlianes and lots of side to side motion going for the drop targets. The spinning wheel gets used maybe once per game and is overall pretty underutilized. Even with snappy flippers the Tiger ramp is a bit hard to hit. Grossly unsuitable for tournament play with a 20,000,000 point tiger ramp special and progressive jackpot that carries between players. Music is good and I'll never get tired of "meow meow meow meow" on that center ramp. Speaking of which, you cannot endlessly loop the center ramp for points, but you can on the left ramp. The varitarget is neat, but underutilized. Cool backbox animation.

I would not recommend this as a first/only pin as there are many other pins I'd rather have in this price range, but as something different or as part of a collection this is great.
8.156/10
2 years ago
I didn’t want to rate Bad Cats because it’s on my wishlist.
Why?
Because if everyone finds out about it they will all want one!
Not exactly true, but demand already outweighs the availability by quite a lot, considering it’s very low pinscore rating.
Barry Oursler and Python Anghelo … spelling autocorrection is fighting me and I lost… Try again!
Barry and Python, the two great tastes that go great together!
I am one of the rare Barry - Python fans. Many people say Barry was either brilliant or dog meat when making games. Not all his ideas were hits and he made a couple stinkers, but when everything clicked, he was a genius.
Python was just plain weird. His designs were like mad magazine, heavy metal and looney toons mixed into a bucket and thrown on a pinball machine.
That said, when they worked together, as they often did, you usually got something special that causes very polarizing opinions.
Jokerz!, Bad Cats, and Popeye Saves the Earth for example.
The animated lady with the broom swatting a cat in the back glass is exactly what I mean.
Bad Cats isn’t over complicated, doesn’t feature a non conventional playfield, and isn’t full of ramps and toys.
But the art makes it feel like it does.
If it doesn’t make you laugh every time you lose a ball with the meow song then this game is not for you.
You can’t even get mad because it’s funny! And it never gets old.
I kind of wish they had made this game during the infamous 1992 to 1995 era, with all the toys and everything available during that time. It would have either been a top 10 Addams Family style game or been a total catastrophic failure. (See what I did there?)
I thing the only negative I can come up with is that it doesn’t appeal to most people. The gameplay is more in line with games from the early 1980’s: plunk in a quarter, shoot the ball three times, get frustrated and plunk in another quarter. Most people would be turned off by its coin munching abilities.
It dumps the ball through the outholes faster than you can say Jokerz! and doesn’t have the nostalgia, name recognition, or gimmicks of other great System 11 games like Whirlwind, F14 Tomcat, Elvira and the Party Monsters, Black Knight 2000, Pinbot, Dr. Dude, Cyclone, Earthshaker, Diner, and of course High Speed…. Just to name a few off my personal want list.
Also, it doesn’t match anyone’s decor, unless you are a cat lady and have a love of blah colors!
Put Bad Cats between an F14 Tomcat and a whirlwind and nobody would believe that it’s a system 11 like the other two, it looks very late 1960’s to mid 1970’s.
Part of the appeal I guess!
So please don’t drive the price up, I haven’t found one yet and I have a limited budget! If anyone has one in good shape for a decent, non-flipper price, I needs me some Bad Cats!!!
7.400/10
2 years ago
System 11 does it again! Comical theme that keeps you coming back for more.
7.663/10
3 years ago
Super quirky theme and just an overall fun game. It epitomizes what I think of when considering system 11 games.
7.996/10
4 years ago
Let's say a slight little la-la-la and pretend that tiger ramp shot isn't so easy to repeat and doesn't throw the game balance off...

This is a VERY fun game, too cute and funny, and I love seeing a backglass animation on a game that wasn't made in the 60s. "Meow meow meow meow!" I love the odd sort-of-vari-target. The seafood table could do without the "spin again," but that's a minor quibble.

Prices on these seem to have gone up a lot over the last few years, but I guess that's true for most of these. On the wishlist.

*Wife approval* "Whoa, this game is about cats!" No further comment needed.
8.360/10
4 years ago
No multiball is not a problem on this one, sound and music draws you in!
8.315/10
4 years ago
Meow meow meow meow!
6.986/10
4 years ago
Bad cats is in our house cos we love cats and the thing looks beautiful. If you want a retro attractive piece of art for your livingroom, this is it.

Feels good. A bit unbalanced, very cheap drain. But that's ok. Fun to play once in a while when you want a quick game. It is one cool cat. Family will not let it go!
3.137/10
5 years ago
I was shocked to see Barry Oursler designed this one dimensional game.
5.998/10
5 years ago
I played this machine at the Pinball Museum in Bologna, and liked it. It has a lot of satisfying shots, and even without multiball, I love it. Unfortunately it suffers from a really bad made ROM, making the score really unbalanced. Examples:
1) progressive jackpot up to 20M, an enormity for an alphanumeric (final score depends mostly on how high it is)
2) 20M Tiger Ramp on last ball with 3-5 tiger ramps in a row
Software isn't complete: some things are missing, like replay animation and tournament settings. This game needs a new ROM, maybe with a multiball kit, it would become nice.
7.946/10
5 years ago
I ran into this machine in NY. I had never seen it but, system 11? what the heck, I'm in. I liked it, different but that's no bad. Strange layout, rather open and seems to have been missing something in the middle. It was a VERY well cared for game. I would get one for 1K if I ever ran into one.
6.319/10
5 years ago
Plus: Interesting playfield layout. Cool and original theme. Nice backglass animation and the seafood wheel toy is always fun.


Drawback: A little shallow in the rules and scoring department. Asides from the left ramp there is not much more to aim for if you want to stack points. The call outs and music has very little variation to them, so this machine sounds pretty boring or annoying after a while.

Ugly cabinet color that will stand out like a dirt stain if you put this next to f.i. a Theatre of Magic, T2 or TAF. On the other hand; this theme would probably look great as a companion piece to "Mousin Around"...
8.243/10
5 years ago
Not perfect in any way, but the fun factor and ramp shots keep me coming back. For its time, it would have been a top 10 DMD game based on layout design and flow. It’s in my favorite Seattle barcade, and I rarely leave without playing a game or 2, despite 20 other higher rated, modern machines available. More fun to shoot than Addams Family or Funhouse in my opinion. Comparable to Taxi as an 80’s DMD lower-end classic with plenty of flow for its time.
5.646/10
5 years ago
Classic sys11 game- not on par with diner, taxi or WW IMHO. Sounds and music don’t do it any favors even for 1989. Tough to find a nice one just like all sys11’s. The game seems to have its niche following- but the pinside ranking pretty much says it all this time ...
7.527/10
5 years ago
Fun odd game, has 3 ways to score big. Jackpots, 10x max fish bone-us for 5mil (if the vari target works. rebuild it so works perfect on mine) and last ball 20mil shot.

2 things I would have liked different is a fixed jackpot and not have the jackpot as an award from the seafood wheel.

Rocking consecutive shots on both ramps is a lot of fun.

Edit: found out that you can disable the jackpot award from the seafood wheel.
7.457/10
6 years ago
Some people say "so all you do is keep shooting the left ramp?", and yes, that is how you score the most points but there are other fun things to do on it too. SEAFOOD wheel is pretty cool. I actually really enjoy the theme of this game and I absolutely LOVE the music. Art looks really good too. Not my top sys 11, but it's one to take a look at.
9.200/10
6 years ago
This game is a blast! Great theme rules and art. A lot to look at and a lot to do. There are many strategies to get a high score and you are not locked in to a set path.
7.255/10
6 years ago
this is my game this one is a time machine for me,
the backglass is problably the most beautyfull one u are in the cats 'stupidities routine the playfield atrwork the backglass all the sounds just loop the loop perfectly and show u that u are playing a none multiball piece of work
6.992/10
6 years ago
Have been wanting to play this game for years and finally got some time on this deck.

Good:
-Python's artwork!! A standout among his already impressive games. The backglass is absolutely gorgeous. LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the artwork.
-Ourlser outlanes are brutal.
-Lots of drop targets that are crucial to hit to nab the all-important jackpot.
-I like how the jackpot builds as people don't acquire it
-If you have a bad game, the outlanes will most likely give you an extra ball on ball 3. Nice bit of programming to let bad players feel better

Bad:
-it's just.....boring. Hitting the 2 ramps over and over is how you score big points, and that's just not my idea of fun.
-the music isn't great. While I love Forden's sounds, the music wasn't nearly as good as his other efforts
-the mystery wheel takes FOREVER. Way too long of a "stop and go" with this feature. Just dump out a reward and let me play again!
-most games have that bash shot plunger stuck by now (the rubbers have deteriorated)

My takeaway is that this is a decent System 11 that probably could have been great with a bit better of a layout. Fair game, but nothing on par with other Sys11's like Taxi, WW, Diner...
7.019/10
6 years ago
Bad Cats is a machine I'm really split on. On one hand, I think the backglass art and the game logo make for a very stylish looking machine from a distance, but the playfield artwork is something I'm not as thrilled on. The wheel in the center is cool and hearing "Meow Meow Meow Meow" from the main ramp is a cute touch. The gameplay just isn't deep enough for my taste however. The lack of a multiball is very disappointing and extra balls are too easy to get. I've never really been a fan of the "shoot the same ramp over and over" mechanic in any pin. I like the machine for it's theme and quirkiness, but the gameplay can't back it up.
9.676/10
6 years ago
There is something special about this game, especially if you love cats. Great artwork and music, with some fun shots to make. While other games may have multiball, they don't have a seafood wheel! Of all the pins in my house, this gets the most play by everyone.
5.463/10
6 years ago
Meow, meow. Meow meow meow, meow meow meow meow meow! Meow, meow meow meow meow meow? Meow meow meow; meow meow meow meow meow, meow meow. Meow meow, meow meow meow meow. Meow meow!
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