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Zaccaria pinball owners club! All welcome

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#1551 2 years ago
Quoted from Alan_L:

Correction: Because Farfalla is a Gen. 2 MPU, there is no NVRAM available. Sorry.
The easiest way (I think) is to install a remote battery holder. Google: remote battery holder MPU pinball

I think there is a NVRAM available for the 6514 ram chip.
Check out the Pinitech website.
https://www.pinitech.com/products/5114_nvram.php

#1552 2 years ago
Quoted from Alan_L:

Correction: Because Farfalla is a Gen. 2 MPU, there is no NVRAM available. Sorry.

I don't know from where you are affirming that but they exist:

https://www.pinballsolutions.eu/product/nvram-6514/

but for US it is better to get them from Wayne.

#1553 2 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Poking around my farfalla today.

Congratualtions!

In case of need for the future, here the ribbon cables:
https://www.pinballsolutions.eu/product/zaccaria-ribbon-cable-for-cpu-mpu/

For the sound card you cleaned, did you use the ultrasonic cleaner or something else?

#1555 2 years ago

I used the pinitech nvram. Found I had to replace both RAM locations or weird things happened on startup. Still get an occasional locked coil on the knocker but at least its easy to hear and I can work around it.

#1556 2 years ago
Quoted from HHaase:

I used the pinitech nvram. Found I had to replace both RAM locations or weird things happened on startup. Still get an occasional locked coil on the knocker but at least its easy to hear and I can work around it.

I also had issues with the pinitech nvram. Even after replacing both RAM with nvram the game still occasionally had issues.

#1557 2 years ago
Quoted from gianfri:

Congratualtions!
In case of need for the future, here the ribbon cables:
https://www.pinballsolutions.eu/product/zaccaria-ribbon-cable-for-cpu-mpu/
For the sound card you cleaned, did you use the ultrasonic cleaner or something else?

I used a degreaser called Krud Cutter, and a toothbrush.

(I dont have any circuit board cleaner for my sonic cleaner and worried about residue and corrosion on the pots and dip switches.
It's currently loaded up with purple power. )

This worked surprisingly well.
Rinsed with CRC electronic spray.

Dried with warm air electronic Duster blower.

I put the ribbons in the sonic cleaner.
They still fits tight, so it's ok for now.

#1558 2 years ago
Quoted from Inkochnito:

I think there is a NVRAM available for the 6514 ram chip.
Check out the Pinitech website.
https://www.pinitech.com/products/5114_nvram.php

Sadly not available for Farfalla

#1559 2 years ago

I totally scrubbed clean PF 1 and the plasticd in the game and put all new rubbers!

Also I installed 2smd frosted sunlight LEDs in the GI and pop bumpers. All bulbs in the pops were burnt out.

With the caps glued on there was no way to replace them lol.

Looks way better! No ghosting or flickering.

The #51 bulb in the center drop target probably needs a led.

What would be a good replacement?

#1560 2 years ago

I haven't cleaned up any of the mechs yet.

But the flippers seem weak?

I know they are only 39v.

But could use a little more power, in my opinion, to make it up the ramp better.

I'll rebuild them first and report back on this.

#1561 2 years ago

My stand up targets are all pretty toasted.

Its hard to read the text on the ones with lights behind them.

Has anyone replaced these?

What are they supposed to look like? I dont really have a reference.

I can get replacement translucent William's standups and put stickers maybe?

#1562 2 years ago

My "E" roll over barely works and a few of the inlane micro switches are very weak.

The have a hard time staying up, the springs seem weak.

Are there replacements for these?

#1563 2 years ago

So, I'm looking at the 35 year old nicad on the MPU board.

There are 4 ways to address this.

1) replace the battery with a fresh one.

2) install a memory capacitor.

3) install a remote battery holder and block the charging circuit with a diode?

4) get nvram (currently backordered?)

What about a coin battery holder?
And maybe cut the trace for the charging voltage or add a diode?

Has anyone done this?

#1564 2 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Sadly not available for Farfalla

Yes, it is.
The 5114 pinitech module is compatible with all Zaccaria G2 machines.

Some users experienced few flaws but it is still not clear where those flaws come from. (meaning that it appears as a strange behaviour)
I have few machines with the my own 6514 NVRAM module and I never experienced any problem but I'm not playing that much either.
Until now, I never got a negative feedback on those.

Regarding your question on what to use, if you want to replace the current 35y old battery with another battery you can use a simple ni-cd 3,6v battery pack and remotely connect it with a wire to avoid any possible acid leakage.

#1565 2 years ago
Quoted from gianfri:

Yes, it is.
The 5114 pinitech module is compatible with all Zaccaria G2 machines.
Some users experienced few flaws but it is still not clear where those flaws come from. (meaning that it appears as a strange behaviour)
I have few machines with the my own 6514 NVRAM module and I never experienced any problem but I'm not playing that much either.
Until now, I never got a negative feedback on those.
Regarding your question on what to use, if you want to replace the current 35y old battery with another battery you can use a simple ni-cd 3,6v battery pack and remotely connect it with a wire to avoid any possible acid leakage.

I was just quoting a probably outdated compatibility list from pintech's website. It says not available.

Thank you for this!

Will you have the nvram available again soon?

I can just put a remote ni cad in for now.

#1566 2 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Will you have the nvram available again soon?
I can just put a remote ni cad in for now.

I'm currently producing them on demand so I can provide them when needed but to ship them overseas it's quite expensive.

#1567 2 years ago
Quoted from gianfri:

I'm currently producing them on demand so I can provide them when needed but to ship them overseas it's quite expensive.

I see.

Does anyone have them in the USA?

#1568 2 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

I see.
Does anyone have them in the USA?

No, I do not have resellers.

Check with Wayne from Pinitech, it's probably the easiest option.

#1569 2 years ago
Quoted from gianfri:

No, I do not have resellers.
Check with Wayne from Pinitech, it's probably the easiest option.

Ok will do.

#1570 2 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

I was just quoting a probably outdated compatibility list from pinitech's website. It says not available.
Thank you for this!
Will you have the nvram available again soon?
I can just put a remote ni cad in for now.

Zaccaria G2 compatibility was pulled from the compatibility list on the single Pinitech 5114 nvram earlier this year, after some reports of random behavior on this thread (as people have mentioned). So the list is current & Zaccaria G2 is not listed as compatible. There was a thought that replacing BOTH 5114 rams on the board with single 5114 nvram modules might clear up the issues -- Hans tried that and it did clear up a lot of problems, but not all.

The dual module design seems to be the way to go on Zaccaria G2 at this time. These are single boards with one FRAM chip (instead of using two separate FRAM chips) that replace both 5114 nvram at once. So far, no reports of odd behavior using the dual modules. Links for info on the dual modules below, by both Pinball Solutions and BRINK.

#1571 2 years ago
Quoted from acebathound:

Zaccaria G2 compatibility was pulled from the compatibility list on the single Pinitech 5114 nvram earlier this year, after some reports of random behavior on this thread (as people have mentioned). So the list is current & Zaccaria G2 is not listed as compatible. There was a thought that replacing BOTH 5114 rams on the board with single 5114 nvram modules might clear up the issues -- Hans tried that and it did clear up a lot of problems, but not all.
The dual module design seems to be the way to go on Zaccaria G2 at this time. These are single boards with one FRAM chip (instead of using two separate FRAM chips) that replace both 5114 nvram at once. So far, no reports of odd behavior using the dual modules. Links for info on the dual modules below, by both Pinball Solutions and BRINK.

https://www.pinballsolutions.eu/product/nvram-dual-module-6514-2114/
http://www.zaccaria-pinball.com/products/brink/index.html

Thanks!
Definitely looks like the best solution if it becomes available.

#1572 2 years ago
Quoted from gianfri:

No, I do not have resellers.
Check with Wayne from Pinitech, it's probably the easiest option.

i'd probably be willing to be a reseller for you. I'm updating my site with a zaccaria parts section available.

#1573 2 years ago

Is there a led replacement for the #51 bulb on farfalla?
Or do I just put in a 2smd frosted?

It looks like 7.5v ?

The 6.3v led should handle it.

#1574 2 years ago

Going thru the game.

All contacts are sticky with tar.
They look pretty good after cleaning and polishing with flitz.

Got all switches working good.

#1575 2 years ago

The weak flipper problem went away after cleaning the burnt contacts on the cab buttons and flipper EOS.

I seem to have the wrong flipper coils:
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Should I just replace them with bally coils?

Or maybe replace the entire mechs with bally ones...and build new switches.

#1576 2 years ago

This module has been produced long time ago but for lack of time I never had time to test it correctly.
I currently have one installed on my Time Machine and two were shipped to US for another customer.
From the last feedback I have received today it looks that no problems have been found on the module and it works perfectly.

I may therefore consider shipping more items around, interested pinsiders can contact me in private.

WildRover we can discuss in private

#1577 2 years ago

I want to rebuild my flippers.
Are the early bally rebuilds the way to go?
I have copper sleeves in my flipper coils that need changing, as well as plungers, links and coil stops.

Any help is appreciated!

#1578 2 years ago

Fixed the backbox lights and cleaned the insert and glass:

My game is missing the neon!

What I thought was neon was just the backbox lights failing lol.

Can someone guide me as to how to replace my missing parts?

I dont have a zaccaria game near me to copy from.

Before, fully lit lol:
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Cleaning off tar
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After cleaning.
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Some pics would really help me here if anyone has any.

I figure someone else has replaced what's needed on their game.

I would like to add it also.

#1579 2 years ago

Funny, your displays are wrong!
Farfalla uses 7 Digits displays with the same size/ratio of the Bally/Starn digits.

The ones you have are 8 digit from previous games (Soccer Kings and Pinball Champ) and that's why you have one digit which is not ON.

#1580 2 years ago
Quoted from gianfri:

Funny, your displays are wrong!
Farfalla uses 7 Digits displays with the same size/ratio of the Bally/Starn digits.
The ones you have are 8 digit from previous games (Soccer Kings and Pinball Champ) and that's why you have one digit which is not ON.

That's amazing! Lol

My game is #412

Will this affect gameplay?
If so I would change them out.

Well my game has had a hard life.
It's pretty rough but, im getting it running better every day.

Today I got the drop targets unfrozen on the upper playfield.

And added flipper buttons that dont stay down when pressed.

I put a few games on it and it's starting to play really good.

Still lots more cleaning. Haha!
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#1581 2 years ago

Just had my sign guy look at my game.

I'll post the result!

Many thanks to:

brenna98
And
CaptainNeo

#1582 2 years ago

I just spoke to a guy who used to do celluloid slide restoration.
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He says I might have a good touch up result with laser printed
White waterslide decal paper.
You can sand the paper to get it the right color transparency evidently.

Not the clear, you would have to paint the plastic with a transluscent white paint that would never match up.

Make a tiny decal and slide it on.

If I can get some kind of a color match...

I'm inclined to try both white and clear!

Looks like a good safe way to experiment.

Has anyone else done this?

Can someone send a high res image of this area to draw from?

A close up from a cell phone would probably work fine.

This might really help a lot of people if it works out.

#1583 2 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

That's amazing! Lol
My game is #412
Will this affect gameplay?
If so I would change them out.
Well my game has had a hard life.

It doesn't affect the game, but it's maybe a bit unaesthetical.
This game has scores with 7 digits, so the 8th is unused.
You may find someone interested in switching your 8 digits displays with some 7 digits

#1584 2 years ago
Quoted from gianfri:

It doesn't affect the game, but it's maybe a bit unaesthetical.
This game has scores with 7 digits, so the 8th is unused.
You may find someone interested in switching your 8 digits displays with some 7 digits

That's a great idea!

Does anyone need my perfectly working 8 digit displays?

I will trade them 1 for 1 for the proper 7 digit ones!

Must be fully working properly tbough.

#1585 2 years ago

I can give you 9 x seven digits defect displays
You cannot refuse the deal

Actually, for anyone interested, I have 9 dead seven digits displays only for spare parts, not working, no warranty, no nothing

If someone interested contact me by PM

#1586 2 years ago

I'm ordering the neon tube for farfalla.

I can order any color...

Is it pale yellow?

Is it pinkish white?

Is it white?

What is the original color?

There seems to be some inconsistancies.

The TNT video shows a pinkish white?

#1587 2 years ago

none of them are white. I've never seen white neon in any zac. Since we are doing a poll.

Mines a fleshy pale pink color.

#1588 2 years ago

You know, I've been thinking about those 8 digit displays in your Farfalla. I wouldn't change them yet. They should have serial number stickers on them, I'd check to see if the numbers match the game, and the other boards. Might be something unique going on there.

-Hans

#1589 2 years ago

farfalla never existed with 8 digit. Someone threw those in there because someone used the original for another game, and someone else tried to piece this one together.

#1590 2 years ago
Quoted from CaptainNeo:

farfalla never existed with 8 digit. Someone threw those in there because someone used the original for another game, and someone else tried to piece this one together.

I suspect that this is true.
My game looks like its had a hard life.

But the displays are clean and bright, no reason to replace them at this point since they appear to work correctly.

#1591 2 years ago

Thanks you so much brenna98 for the twitch link:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/489891776

The yellow neon looks great!

#1592 2 years ago

I'm trying to locate the spring mounts for the neon tube.

Does anyone have a few to spare?

Or, what springs should I get to bend my own?

#1593 2 years ago

Parting a Locomotion . Below is a link to items on Epay. Also have PF parts not yet listed - let me know what you might need. Backglass is good but unfortunately broken on top right corner.

ebay.com link: michiganpinball
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#1594 2 years ago
Quoted from michiganpinball:

Parting a Locomotion . Below is a link to items on Epay. Also have PF parts not yet listed - let me know what you might need. Backglass is good but unfortunately broken on top right corner.
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Will those displays work in my farfalla?

#1595 2 years ago

Nope - these are 6 digit

Quoted from pinballinreno:

Will those displays work in my farfalla?

#1596 2 years ago
Quoted from luvthatapex2:

Nope - these are 6 digit

Drats!

Anyone have tube mounting springs?

#1597 2 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Drats!
Anyone have tube mounting springs?

Any neon shops nearby? They may have something thatll work

#1598 2 years ago
Quoted from HHaase:

Any neon shops nearby? They may have something thatll work

I would think so!

#1599 2 years ago

I need to know what size tube diameter to order.

I'm going to go with either pale pink or pale yellow as seen on that twitch video. (I really like the yellow)

Does anyone know the diameter?

It looks like 10mm or 12mm from the vids I've been looking at.

Looks like 1/2" or a little smaller.

#1600 2 years ago

Will that coin door work on my farfalla?

It looks a lot better than mine.

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