I guess I just don't get it.
I never new this was a real issue (glare). My games all seem to play just fine. I can see the playfield and I can see the ball......I'm Good!
Invisiglass in kind of neat.......I guess. Let's see regular glass in around $25........hmmm......I might (might) be willing to spend $40 (If I can pick it locally) for Invisiglass.
Quoted from MagicJumpi:Because you can see the edges. They are covered in pinball machines as you might have noticed.
I'm sorry it's not just because of the green edges. The whole piece has a green cast to it - not just the edges.
After all this bullshit I think the topic of this thread should be changed to....
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"You wont even think of getting invisiglass or pdi or phoog or any glass for that matter!"
Quoted from thepinballworks:Doesn't PDI glass have some kind of coating on it? That is what I was told anyway, and that is why it scratchs easily.
Can magicjumpi answer this question for me?
So someone is embellishing/talking up something they are trying to sell? WOW I actually see this alot.
I noticed today my Whopper did not look like the picture-BUYER BEWARE.
Quoted from MagicJumpi:I simply can't stand it if people suggest a wrong fact to others
You are going to be very busy!
Quoted from ryan1234:I noticed today my Whopper did not look like the picture-BUYER BEWARE.
Maybe it would if you put it under Phoogs, PDI or Invisiglass???
I went to PHOOGs shop last night and took pictures "WITH MY EYES" (NOT a camera) of ALL 3 of his glass products.
They were laid out FLAT, SIDE by SIDE by SIDE
I purchased a sheet of ULTIMATE,because I "SAW" how much better it was (and not just because of the bevel,even though the bevel makes it even nicer)
Not only does it look great on the machine, but I also see a slight DECREASE in backbox GLARE,which is an added benefit since I was NOT expecting ANY DIFFERENCE in GLARE
I have never personally seen PDI or Invisiglass, but if they are THREE times BETTER than ULTIMATE, then they must be literally INVISIBLE
In the pics posted on page three I can see the difference in the standard float glass and the starphire.
The standard float has a green-ish tint, where the the starphire is bluish and is a little more "clear".
When I was into saltwater aquariums I had a 600gal tank built out of starphire...
Maybe this will give a little better side by side:
Quoted from asnatlas:Also note that Starphire glass is "softer" (lower iron) then standard float and will scratch easier...
Possibly in this modern day and age you could take a HD video of side by side scratch tests...haha! Seriously though I've never had scratching be an issue. One guy said he dropped the test piece I sent him on the tile and it bounced around without damage. This glass is tough. I've had my glass on my pins for over a year with lots of cleaning and sliding the glass in and out and balls hitting the glass and scratching is not an issue.
Magicjumpi I'm sorry you feel I'm being misleading or ignoring you. It is not the case. I'll work on getting you a video or picture to your liking but right now I'm gonna crack a cold one and catch up on some Breaking Bad. Now that is one damn good show.
Quoted from Phoog:now I'm gonna crack a cold one and catch up on some Breaking Bad. Now that is one damn good show.
Yes, fantastic show. However, you end a lot of your posts with basically a "I read your complaints and instead of addressing them I'm going to go do something else random".
Now, I do agree he trolled a bit hard, but it seems if you post the small comparison pics or vids he wants it will appease him. Also, it would just help in general for all your sales of the glass! 
I thought this topic was finished way back when... but it looks like there needs to be a face off btw Ultimate vs Regular green tint glass!?! Why?
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pdi-vs-bobs-ultimate-aka-phoogs-pinball-glass-face-off
Personally I have 3 PDI and 1 JJP and will be ordering 1 more sheet of JJP for T2 when the time comes because it is in stock and no need to pre-order. If I wanted save $, but wanted something better than the standard glass I would buy from Phoog. Now we have 3 price points... more options are better IMO.
I think the problem with those videos, when comparing Phoog's glass with regular is that they are so similar. You really need to have the glass side by side to see the supposed benefit or difference. It's still pretty obvious though from the video that it doesn't make the game look better in any obvious way. The only way to appreciate the clarity of Phoog's glass is to put it against a solid light background and I don't know any pinball playfields that look like that.
Quoted from chocky909:The only way to appreciate the clarity of Phoog's glass is to put it against a solid light background and I don't know any pinball playfields that look like that.
The pic above is a great comparison on how the glass is not used in a game.
Quoted from thepinballworks:thepinballworks said:
Doesn't PDI glass have some kind of coating on it? That is what I was told anyway, and that is why it scratchs easily.Can magicjumpi answer this question for me?
The coating is bonded/burned into the glass.
It's not scratching easily, you can see the scratches and fingerprints easier, because the scratch refracts the light and the area around it is clearer than with regular glass.
This is the reason why people say it scratches easier.
Quoted from MagicJumpi:The pic above is a great comparison on how the glass is not used in a game.
The coating is bonded/burned into the glass.
It's not scratching easily, you can see the scratches and fingerprints easier, because the scratch refracts the light and the area around it is clearer than with regular glass.
This is the reason why people say it scratches easier.
Didn't you have a thread that showed the entire process?
Quoted from absocountry2:Didn't you have a thread that showed the entire process?
No, I only wrote about the process here
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/invisiglass-is-shipping#post-208671
and I've explained the differences here
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-amazing-pinball-glass/page/4#post-159894
Hey Phoog,
do you have any video ready showing how your glass performs compared to a new regular glass ?
Quoted from Phoog:I'll work on getting you a video or picture to your liking but right now I'm gonna crack a cold one and catch up on some Breaking Bad. Now that is one damn good show.
If not, could you be so kind and answer the questions for the interested ?
Why is it not possible to see a difference between a regular sheet and your non beveled glass in/on a game ?
Why is it not possible to see any green color if Invisglass or PDI glass are installed in a game ?
Both products are made with green colored glass.
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