I hope most people on here already know to be very cautious before ever even thinking of dealing with barrywnj. There is a ton of history on here and RGP if you are bored. There is a reason his auctions are private. I do love the floating pin pics with the black background and no legs though.

I was tempted on his $500 STTNG but it was a disaster.I like projects but these just need a wrecking ball.

Thanks for the heads up. Most Pinsiders are familiar with Barrywnj and know to run the other way.

I bought my 1st pin from him, a JD, and was very disappointed.

Water damage, board hacks, 1/4" plate glass that broke during delivery. Described as very good condition and I would not be disappointed. I was.

To play Devil's Advocate for a moment - how can you tell this game (or any) was in a flood? Is there something you can see in the pics? I am certainly aware of this Seller's reputation - but how can you tell?

Clearly, in NJ (and elsewhere, if exported) we certainly have a potential to see "Superstorm Sandy" games - not to mention a number of other flooding storms in recent years.

This is similar to what goes on with Flood-damaged (totalled) cars that are cleaned up and re-sold.

LOL that STTNG cost and arm and a leg!

I think since its Barry you can assume they were in a flood, I live at the beach in NJ and I can tell you almost every storefront in downtown Ocean city Flooded - same type of thing that happened in Allenhurst. Flood water is one thing - Flood water that comes from the ocean and back bays is another story. Whether they were in a flood or not - stay away, SALTWATER is not your friend

I get douche chills every time that bastards name is mentioned!

Buy a game from him and post your Barry Whinge here.

Thanks rlevin.

Almost makes you want to ask Barry if he knows whether the machines were sinkers or floaters

Id want to personally inspect any game that came from Sandy shore points. Some folks can be unscrupulous.

Why is that? Anything above the waterline on the game should be safe

Yup, I see the water line too. Check out the pile of crap Ninja Turtles he's selling too. It's real bad.

He does say, "BACK OF MACHINE THAT WOULD BE AGAINST THE WALL DID GET WET AT ONE POINT."

Yeh, but everything below the water line is gonna be a problem. Cabinet will be coming apart requiring gluing/clamping. Mud in the bottom panel will need cleaning out. Coin door will be all corroded/rusted. Connectors will be corroded requiring replace of both the male and female halves. Lamp sockets will be all rusted requiring replacement. Playfield microswitches will get mud/contamination inside them causing either erratic operation or no operation (dead). All the screws on the playfield will be rusted. The sheet metal screws that attach assemblies to the playfield will have to be replaced with the next size larger because the screw holes in the wood have expanded from the water. The original screws won't tighten.

I'm surprised he didn't throw in the common video arcade description with it:

"It's just a fuse".

How is it that Barrywnj has a 100% positive feedback rating? I'm baffled.

I was thinking the same thing???

Just to be clear, I was kidding...I wouldn't touch those games with a ten foot pole!

what is this clowns pinside handle?

Ha,

He picked them up from the dumpster after Sandy and now is selling them. I really hope this bites him in the ass as there may be sewage and other contaminants on these that should not be handled by anyone except those using the proper chemicals.

there is a definite potential health issue here.

Looks like that Big Guns' translite floated away...

I understand. I would not touch those games either.

However, over the years I have salvaged several flood damaged pinball machines and video games. It all depends on how quickly you get the machines out of the flood waters and start cleaning them up.

he does give 7-10% off....

and i think he will pay 35% of your medical bills if you get the bubonic plague..that's the rumor

side note: anyone who is working on old pinball machines, regardless of provenance, should have had a tetanus shot in their recent past... better to be safe than sorry...

on topic: but someone in another thread was singing barry's praises...

wonder what ever happened to the guy who posted right after sandy that he would buy everyne's damaged machines? vulture...

From what has been written in the past, once he has your money and sends you a crappy game, he will basically blackmail the buyer. He will tell the buyer he will give them a little money off for all the issues, but only after they leave him positive feedback. He and the buyers know that the buyer has little recourse. The buyer could ship it back, but that would cost big bucks, so people bend over and take it and try not to make the same mistake in the future. Also, he sells smaller things like manuals and coin mechs too, that is how he boosts his eBay rating. A small number of his positive ratings on eBay are from actual pinball machine sales, most are from the smaller items.

You price/flood police are the worst. Let the market decide what a game is worth!

Then why does he have 100% positive feedback?

Good point. All his completed auctions are private though.

"From what has been written in the past, once he has your money and sends you a crappy game, he will basically blackmail the buyer. He will tell the buyer he will give them a little money off for all the issues, but only after they leave him positive feedback. He and the buyers know that the buyer has little recourse. The buyer could ship it back, but that would cost big bucks, so people bend over and take it and try not to make the same mistake in the future."

^^^^This...plus it is not that hard to get negative feedback removed. There are several minor things that buyers can screw up to make feedback ineligible and therefor removable.

I've worked on a couple of games from Barry. They were bad enough. I hope I never see one of these. Most people know to avoid his games, but thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Thanks for the insight.

You forgot to add the "tongue planted firmly in cheek" comment at the end. Fixed it for you.

No problem.
Actually there's an "Just Kidding" emoticon at the end of my post. But you guys are smart enough to figure that out right?

I also had a negative buying experience from that aforementioned seller.Buyer Beware !

Yeah, these have cholera written all over them.

I have had numerous good dealings with Barry. I would never have a game shipped to me i havent seen in person. Buyer beware, know what you are buying and inspect it.

this barry sounds like a top notch guy!

If he pulled them out of a dumpster after the flood, why didn't the person who put them in the dumpster remove all of the salvageable parts first? plastics and ramps are easy enough to clean, and it sounds like a lot of the boards were above water lines... There was a lot of salvaging after the PAPA flood.
Just curious.

Probably because they weren't from a collector. We know enough not to salvage. An average owner will get the insurance check and out it goes, or the contractor they pay to do the flood repairs will do it. That, and you get this guy who buys the crap and sells it dishonestly.

That price is funny. Over $600 LOL

No thanks

First and Foremost,

Barry is not a bad guy. I actually just bought a project Fish Tales from him 3 days ago and I couldn't be happier and alive. He gave me a free translite to it as well. The game was missing an MPU board and ribbon cables along with a DMD. I brought all of these items with me and had him test out the game and make sure everything had power and that it booted up correctly. He then let me pick out 4 legs of my choice, a lockbar of my choice, as well as a playfield glass.The playfield was complete. I got the project for $500. This also was the second time dealing with Barry as the first was purchasing a World Poker Tour from him.

Attached are some photos after 3 days, playfield taken apart, it's actually cleaning up quite nice. I managed to pick up all brand new insert decals, ribbon cable set, and an MPU board all for less than $100.

I'm estimating after it's all said and done that I'll spend a little less than $1,000 to have a Fish Tales to my liking.

Here's my two cents. If you're going to buy from Barry, go and inspect the game you are interested in prior to purchasing and pick it up yourself. He does also sell very nice restored games at fairly decent prices. If you notice in his auctions for the project games, he also lists them for parts as well. If you have the notion that all of those project games are working then you are sorely mistaken. Many of the games are meant to be parted out and sold.

These project games are mostly meant to either be parted out and sold or refurbished for the owner's liking.

My suggestion to those that are considering buying from Barry: "Courtesy breeds courtesy"
If you are nice to the guy and don't come off as a swindler he will work with you.

Anyways, best of luck all. I'll turn the conversation back over to the zealots. Cheers!

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^^^

as expected, it didn't take long to happen in this thread either... satan himself could post a for sale ad, and at least one person would jump in and say "great guy! great seller!"...

Barry has had a bad wrap for as long as I been collecting. 9 years and nothing has changed. $500 for a flooded FT is to much. Fluffy cabinet alone, means your going to have more parts than just buying a nicer one for $1400. Usually the only things useable in a flood game is the boards, plastics and metal hardware. All the wood, coils and switches are usually ruined. Mud gets in all those and turns it to a piece of crap. Mostly parts machines. Which I would barely pay $300 for.

Where can I find a 1400$ ft

Those are some oversized paperweights.