Sounds like a bit of an anticlimax if that's all they've done with some superficial tweaks to sound and shaker motor... surely they've fixed the right orbit shot which fails to be recognised if the ball comes down the left orbit after getting nudged off Starscream's footplate...?

At least they've made the MB progress memory a configuarble setting so that people who don't want to dumb-down their game and retain the incredible sense of achievement of beating OP and Megs can still get the benefits of the bug fixes (assuming there are any)... now that IS good news...

Any significant reward for doing modes in the first visit??

Let's face it, that should have been there from the beginning... It was one of the earliest gripes relayed to Stern I believe... It's great that it's finally here though and sounds like the best thing the code update has to offer from what I've heard so far... I'm hoping it will be beaten by at least some decent reward to doing modes in the first visit!!!!!!!!??????

He famously sold his XM in a fire sale so he could afford Avengers for the lowest price one had been sold for at the time, and that was months ago.

So the fact that he now pops into every XM thread with snide remarks, or nonsensical statements he thinks are witty, leads me to believe he actually is hating on it for the sake of hating on it, or has some odd separate agenda related to buyer's remorse or the fear of it.

He hasn't even experienced the last two code updates, so what other purpose is there for his negative one-liners in XM code update threads?

I'm sure there is a lot more to the update then what I mentioned. I didn't even get to play a whole game on it at the time. Pretty much updated and played for a minute. The sounds and shaker effects were just stuff I noticed right away.

On a side note, I'd like to point out how finely calibrated my Magic 8 Ball is:

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/x-men-le-124-pro-15-software-comment-vent-suggestion-thread

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tf-code-updates-only-post-your-thoughts-here

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/x-men-v124-and-tf-v18-are-live

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/code-update-transformers-x-men-now-the-good-bad-or-ugly

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-code-for-x-men-worth-the-wait

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-transformer-xmen-code-availalbe

--Luke

Good job patting your own back HighNoon ;p

Spent a lot of time with XMEN LE last night, and the game is definitely much improved. The modes are more exciting, the combo of the villian plus hero is awesome and hellfire / brotherhood seem more accessible now. Apparently my Wolverine however doesnt have regen powers though because during play I somehow managed to knock his right arm off and it never grew back. I was kind enough to glue it back on for him.

The increased coil power is causing some majorly interesting issues:

Left Sling hop to Iceman Ramp.
Right Sling Hop over the Left Sling, Left Outlane and Drain
Left Sling to Shooter Lane!
Right Sling to Left Return Ramp
Lots of Glass Hits

Does anyone know if reducing the coil power in the setting will also impact the magnet coil power? I like the new magnet supercharged action, but not so much the Slings of Doom.

-Wes

No kidding, the slings are pretty brutal right now. I am actually thinking of coming up with a seperate power setting for the slings using some additional hardware. My Magneto magnet is not actually consistently grabbing the balls anymore like it used too, but slings are more than happy to bounce a ball into the left outlane.

I played for about 2 hours and haven't had these issues but I have a Pro. Not a single glass hit. Any other owner of a Pro noticing issues like Wes described above? I'll try and update this post if it happens when I get a chance to play it some more.

I'm not having any overpowered slingshot issues on my LE (Wolv.)

Maybe this could be differences in the leveling of the game...I keep mine at 6.5 is yours inclined more Wes?

My slingshots play really well too.
No problems...

I have a pro and have had only one glass hit and one ball to the shooter lane. My game is set at 6.5.

I've had a few overpowered issues too (not seen before the update). In particular I also pulled off the elusive left sling to shooter lane maneuver last night. I believe I also jumped on the Iceman ramp once, but that was in the heat of battle, so I'm not positive. I think I am going to try bumping the strength down to soft tonight and see how it goes. I hope it doesn't affect the magnets!

Maybe that will help the ball stay on that damn Storm ramp the few times I actually pull off a "Picard Maneuver" from Beast...it usually just flies right off the back... Thankfully I don't pull that off very often...Cyclops to Storm is always fine and the only way I can usually set up the Storm shot successfully!

edit: I am at 6.5 and perfectly level.

Count me in as noticing a major change in sling strength. I have had a couple launches to the shooter lane, a couple on top of Mags, etc., and the outlane drains are way up, too -- the slings now appear to be perfectly aligned to launch n' drain. 6.5.

Bumped the coil strength to soft and the right sling shot the ball into the xaviov trough. Any other settings to tone these things down? I think there is so much speed with the mags that there is really no way to tone it down other than a manual adjustment.

Only played a couple times still BUT There are some very cool and smooth updates to TF! There's entirely new music and sound effects (and the music ad sound on this pin is already top rate) scoring seems more jacked...you can lite EB from the All Spark now(!)..and, maybe, "Pops 4,000" is history. I think I did it twice though...so that needs adjustment.

I did Bumblebee and MudFlaps and Skids in one trip and I think it doubled my mode score as a reward. I got like 8M for each...which is pretty high if I'm not mistaken.

I also think that OP MB starts as a three ball. Either that or I drained one without noticing. Hope g for a combo Multiball!

I'm pretty stoked. I can't wait to hit Sentinel Prime!

Bravo Stern. Great Job!

Just played a fantastic game! Finished all heroes but Beast, and just had 2 villians left. Game really does feel different now. Loving it. We all bitch at Stern, as we should, when they sell us short, but we need to give them their due here.

Same here it even threw the ball in the outlane and I was having a great game too. Oh well I can live with it as I like the pin way better, even the lights seem different and scoring seems more balanced and fair.

I don't know about this code, but the past codes would only have Nightcrawler pop up in Xavier mode part of the time. When it did pop up...he wasn't always the mutant. I think that is great. It makes it random, uses the Nightcrawlers and isn't obvious even when they are used if he is the mutant or not.

The part that was bugged is when left Nightcrawler would pop up and stay up and he wasn't the mutant. In that case...you would hit him and he would just stay up. So there was no getting back to Xavier for the "clue" to find the mutant.

I think it should be so Nightcrawler pops up part of the time in Xavier mode. Some of the times he is used he should be the mutant and other times he should not be. When he does pop up...he should change from the right to the left. When he is hit (either Nightcrawler mech) and not the mutant...he should pop down and be done for the mode.

I would say the same for Nightcrawler in Rogue mode...I would like it better if he is there sometimes and not others.

As for Nightcrawler being used to light the extra ball. I think he should show up when you beat 3 heroes. If you don't light the extra ball by completing him...he should show up every time you complete a character until you do complete him and light the extra ball. After that, he should be done after completing characters unless you are given another extra ball opportunity for some reason.

I'm not noticing any score boosting for doing modes in one trip... are you sure you got it doubled for MF&S??

That's how it started before isn't it!? I always try and have All Sparks lit before I go into OP, that way when I drain down to 2 balls I can try and get the third ball back by using the 'add a ball' in All Sparks... If you hit All Sparks as you're draining you also get the drained ball back because it gets saved by the ball save timer that starts when add-a-ball starts You have to have AS lit before you start though because you can't lighy AS when you're IN OP MB... Same with Megatron MB.

I don't like that they seem to have taken away All Sparks 2x shot multiplier when entering AHM or RO SJP modes, even if you have it lit when you go in, it get's 'stolen' and you can't re-light it...

I also don't like that the right orbit bug isn't fixed... that shot will not register within a 2 or 3s trigger of the left orbit switch, which plays havoc in trying to make the right orbit shot register when in multiball!

I do like the fact that you can turn off the autolaunch on ball lock and that you can get to the end easier, although I don't like that that's achieved with full main MB progress memory, the main MB's are now almost as weak (to defeat) as the sub-modes... at the very least some superiority retaining difference between HOW progress memory works would have been a lot better, like 'half progress memory', i.e. the game remembers half the shots made for the next visit... In a recent game I got all the shots on OP except the final Megatron, so on the next visit I had three balls with a long timer to make just one shot... And when I got the shot, the only way to progress the game is to let all except one ball drain so that All Sparks lights up to begin RO SJP mode... Why can't All Sparks light up while you're still in multiball?? For the player to have to pueposefully drain balls to progress is silly!! And if you happen to have 2x scoring going at the same time, you have to wait (up to a minute!) with the ball on the right flipper 'till 2x scoring finises before All Sparks will light up... That's just wrong to me...

I still have not had any crazy arrant balls from the slings and I have put probably 3 to 4 hours on it. I'm wondering if many that are having issues changed the black rubber on the slings to white? I have a feeling this could make a huge difference and likely result in more erratic things happening with the ball especially with these high powered slings.

That is so strange how we can have totally different experiences I can't really think of another explanation.

Still have the Black Rubber.

White rubber for me and I have had a glass hit from the right slingshot

Happy with the Wolverine update. Playing a lot. I am a pretty bad player when I'm on this machine. But still lots of fun. Good job Stern!

Coil pulse = soft is your friend.

I tried that and it neutered my magnets. I'd rather live with the occasional violent sling than go back to 1.22 or worse magnet strength. Hopefully they will tone down the coils a tad in the future without ruining the magnet action.

I thought OP MB was always a 3 ball mode!?

I am pretty happy with the update.
Like the separate high scores for autobots and decepticons.
If the ball gets stuck in The StarScream platform, the game recognizes it fast and the platform moves nicely to dislodge it. No long wait, no ball search.
No more road block on OP MB. Yeah!
Noted some nice added audio but not sure what was added as I'm not a die hard TF fan.
No much more I could tell added.

This is definitely good... I wish they'd have also added an overall high-score chart (with a note saying which faction was chosen). As it stands you have to watch both high score charts scroll through and remember the previous sides high score to know the overall high score... It's definitely better than it was though!

Finally got passed OP MB and made it to RollOut. WooHoo!

Let the good times Roll (out)!

It was like that before by the way...

Apparently an extra ball at All Sparks... not seen it myself yet.

I have gotten the 4000 for pops.
Only things added are MB progression, high scores, and ?

Is there no addition of an extra ball at All Sparks then?

I certainly wish they'd have addressed the right loop shot bug (currently, and previously, the shot is ignored if the left loop switch is hit before the right loop).

Ironhide scoring still cycles in a loop, issuing multiple 'special is lit' awards... I'm pretty sure that's exactly the same as before...

Someone mentioned that Starscream interacts better with the game, but I see no change at all there...?

Yes, 4000 pops is still there Arggh! But EB is now an All Spark reward. There are some new animations - I think - for bonus multiplier and other things, plus some new music with the high scoring at the end.

I had an awesome game last night...but got interrupted for dinner and didn't make it to Roll Out. This game kicks ass, I can't wait to get further along.

The only other thing I wish they would add is how many hits to start OPMB in the instant info. The only thing is high scores listed.

Turn coindoor ball saver on, and if you open the coin door, ballsaver is activated and you can walk away for as long as you want (assuming the power is ON) and resume the game by closing the door.

Also, how many more hits to start double scoring would be very handy at times...

Yes, that would be nice and fast scoring as well.

I do that alot. I was referring more to having to stop a game where I was really in the zone... And just couldn't get it back. Totally harshed my mellow man!

True that. The instant info on this game is not very helpful. I was hoping it would be improved.

Option to not auto-shoot on ball lock... which I think is an excellent thing!! Give's you time to think about how to plunge the ball or just get another beer... or do pretty much anything you want while the game is on pause!