(Topic ID: 184022)

Xenon: Is your outer backglass clear where it says Paul Faris?

By toddsvec

2 years ago

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#1 2 years ago

Getting ready to sell a 2nd Xenon I have, I noticed on the plain outer mirrored backglass, the one with no art, one of mine has the area where it would shine through "Paul Faris" coated over, the other is "cut out". Any idea which is more common or rare?

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#3 2 years ago

Mine is cutout like that as well.

#4 2 years ago

The one I have is also covered.

#5 2 years ago

Mine is covered as well.

#6 2 years ago

Played at my buddy's house last night and his is covered, I wonder what the story is.

#7 2 years ago

Mine is clear. Serial # 1500.

#8 2 years ago

Mine is 1402 that was a "garage find" that was near perfect. I assume later editions may have been modified? You have me wondering what the story is.

1 month later
#9 2 years ago

Went to my friend Steve's house this weekend and his xenon is cut out. When I told him mine wasn't he was surprised as he thought they all were cut out.

So who knows what the story is on why some are cutout and others not?

#10 2 years ago

Mine is covered, Serial 2491.

#11 2 years ago

Ok, this mystery is killing me. Anyone have an idea why some xenon mirrored glass is cutout over the signature and some aren't. All of them came from the factory that way so we aren't talking about some mod done later. So why did they do a run of cutouts then stopped?

#12 2 years ago

Cut out on the one I have...

#13 2 years ago

6081 and 6085 are cut out.

#14 2 years ago

Mine is cut out. At work so I'm not sure of serial number.

#15 2 years ago

oh for the love of christ does ANYONE know why some are cut out and some aren't??? With over 11000 produced this will be a really long thread if everyone just posts if theirs is or isn't without answering why!!

So whats the deal? Did some elf do it? Did the grinch only steal half of the cutouts?

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#16 2 years ago

Bump. Anyone know the answer?

#17 2 years ago

The only thing I've noticed is the cut out shaded glasses are darker and reflect more.

#18 2 years ago

So is the cut out from the factory and the plain ones aftermarket? Or the other way around? Or did bally do a special run of cutouts and then stop as it took too long? Or was the cutout done later by some owners as a mod?

No idea why I'm obsessing on this but I just love solving a mystery...

#19 2 years ago

You'll probably find it was just that the two different versions are made by different companies. Bally had several different companies making backglasses and same with playfields. Same with Williams.

Often they have different art files to work from.

Bad Cats for example has 3 different versions of the backglass.


#20 2 years ago

Thanks rotordave. Makes sense.

Anyone know if there is a pinside member that worked at Bally back then that knew the definitive answer?

#21 2 years ago

I have an older original Xenon that has not had the
front glass removed and Paul's name is covered.
I suspect the replacement glass has his name revealed.

#22 2 years ago

Bally had multiple variations of the backglasses made during the production run.
This was a factory difference, not a aftermarket replacement.
Neither version is rare or more valuable particularly since the production run exceeded 11K units.
I cannot state exactly when the switch occurred which was near the middle of the run (April-May 1981) as production was continued based on the success of the game.
Earlier versions had the name covered.
The change was at the request of the artist, Paul Faris, and the additional backglasses were ordered with the change.

This trait has also occurred in other games.

#23 2 years ago

Thanks blackknightx, you sir are a steely-eyed middle man!!

#24 2 years ago

Sorry, damn spell check

Missile man

Face palm for epic movie quote fail

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