(Topic ID: 116528)

X-PIN Vs Pinscore


By Madmax541

4 years ago



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  • 41 posts
  • 20 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 4 years ago by jmountjoy111
  • Topic is favorited by 3 Pinsiders

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  • Taxi Williams, 1988

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#1 4 years ago

Looking for replacement display for sys 11B Taxi.
Looking for positive or negatives experiences with each.

#2 4 years ago

Xpin made pinscore displays for Marco. Xpin was their brand name for the displays they sold outside marco. I have had great success with both. I'd go with the cheaper one or whichever has the longer warranty

#3 4 years ago

I just installed Xpin Taxi displays a month ago. They work great. I wish they would include some generic nylon standoffs as their mounting holes were smaller than my original standoffs, but a trip to Lowe's fixed that.

#4 4 years ago
Quoted from Cheddar:

Xpin made pinscore displays for Marco. Xpin was their brand name for the displays they sold outside marco. I have had great success with both. I'd go with the cheaper one or whichever has the longer warranty

Pinscore is the Marco brand that Brett designed for them several years ago. He split from them and made his X-pin brand and has updated all of his designs/boards since then, so if you want the most up to date revisions go with X-pin.

#6 4 years ago

Or you could save some money and buy rottendog displays from Ks Arcade. I put a blue one in my whirlwind. For $150 I couldn't go wrong

#7 4 years ago

I got some Xpin displays for my High Speed project. They look fantastic.

#8 4 years ago
Quoted from mcluvin:

I just installed Xpin Taxi displays a month ago. They work great. I wish they would include some generic nylon standoffs as their mounting holes were smaller than my original standoffs, but a trip to Lowe's fixed that.

System 11 games are crazy when it comes to how they mounted the displays in the games. I have seen as many as 6 different methods from blind-hole pcb standoffs to t-nuts with plastic spacers. I wish that I could create a hardware kit to cover every possible mounting, but that just isn't practical. If I increase the hole size for one type of standoff, then the screws will be the wrong size for another game. Tough calls...

#9 4 years ago
Quoted from Cheddar:

I'd go with the cheaper one or whichever has the longer warranty

Concerning the XPin™ warranty, everything has a warranty for two years against any manufacturing defect. I can't warranty though against a problem where the game itself causes the damage or defect, i.e. mods or hacks in the game that bypass normal operation.

#10 4 years ago
Quoted from jmountjoy111:

Or you could save some money and buy rottendog displays from Ks Arcade. I put a blue one in my Whirlwind. For $150 I couldn't go wrong

Unless something has changed, Rottendog quit making the Taxi displays a couple years ago.

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#11 4 years ago
Quoted from kbliznick:

Pinscore is the Marco brand that Brett designed for them several years ago. He split from them and made his X-pin brand and has updated all of his designs/boards since then, so if you want the most up to date revisions go with X-pin.

There's a little more to the story than that.

#12 4 years ago

I have X-Pin in my Firepower and Hot Tip.
Both look and work spectacular.
The ribbon cables take a bit of work to get around the back box bulbs. But if you take your time and flatten them in the right spots it will work.

#13 4 years ago
Quoted from mcluvin:

Unless something has changed, Rottendog quit making the Taxi displays a couple years ago.

Hmmmm. It appears that you are correct.

#14 4 years ago
Quoted from Gatecrasher:

There's a little more to the story than that.

Yes, but it's not my laundry to air. What I said is factual and to the point.

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#15 4 years ago
Quoted from kbliznick:

Yes, but it's not my laundry to air. What I said is factual and to the point.

It's your opinion.

Nothing more.

#16 4 years ago

What else is there to the story guys?

#17 4 years ago
Quoted from Gatecrasher:

It's your opinion.
Nothing more.

I know Brett. He lives here in the Phoenix area.

#18 4 years ago

good lord the drama on this site

#19 4 years ago

Hmmmm, no Rottendog Taxi display? If there is one, that's the way to go. Their Customer service rules!

#20 4 years ago

Kris, ignore the Troll, he's just trying to stir up some shit....It's none of anybody's business what happened, people should just be happy that we have products to purchase....

Quoted from Gatecrasher:

It's your opinion. Nothing more.

#21 4 years ago

I would absolutely go Xpin over anything else. Top notch customer service, and great products.

I have Rottendog boards in 4 games. Two of those had parts fail inexplicably. That's not a stellar track record in my opinion.

#22 4 years ago

Installed X-pin displays in Taxi looks great.
X-pin will be my choice in future.

#23 4 years ago

I have no opinion on pinscore vs. x-pin, but I did find this bullet item from the x-pin site humorous

"Professionally assembled in USA for top qualit"
from http://www.xpinpinball.com/shop/product/xp-wms12739-o

Not the best place for a typo!

#24 4 years ago

Yep...cut and paste error on my part...thanks for pointing it out. For the record, all of the assemblies are made in Phoenix, AZ.

#25 4 years ago

X-pin is a superior product to Pinscore.
I've had both. Yes, it's my opinion.

#26 4 years ago

Pinscore is OK, but Xpin is just top-notch.

#27 4 years ago

I've had several brands of displays in many different games, Rottendon, Pinscore, Xpin, etc. and so far I can easily say that Xpin has the best looking displays, and top notch customer service as well.

#28 4 years ago

I've got both and I'm happy with both. I do like the padding around the numeric displays that comes with XPin better though. I will buy XPin the next time because of the tireless support you get from Brett.

#29 4 years ago

To all my supporters, thank you for your kind words. Knowing that I can make a difference in keeping this awesome hobby alive and thriving is a big part of what keeps me going!

Brett

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#30 4 years ago
Quoted from Stu:

Kris, ignore the Troll, he's just trying to stir up some shit....It's none of anybody's business what happened, people should just be happy that we have products to purchase....

Get back under the bridge there Troll. Who took that Duck Tape off anyway? lol

I bet you have never bought one. Do you even own a pinball machine?

My point in my response was the person was only stating an opinion on which product was better because he neglected to include any real facts on why he liked one over the other. If he would have clarified his answer with some facts I wouldn't have replied the way I did.

It was like me saying Chevrolet is better than Ford because Chevrolet has upgraded their drivetrain. Or like saying CPR playfields are better than NOS because CPR has upgraded all the colors to what they think they should really be. Those statement are opinions not fact. Go back to school and take an English class or two if the concept is over your head. But after reading the statement again, he really never said which one he thought was better so I might have been off base.

But as to the original point of the thread, I've bought both too and as far as the models I have they are both good. They were both designed by the same guy. Can't go wrong with either and if there are differences, they are subtle. (That's my opinion).

#31 4 years ago

I Do 95% of Brett's Beta Testing, so yes you clown I DO have them ( in most of my machines even! ). And yes I do own pinball machines, 73 of in fact. And I have been collecting for over 25 years.....God I hate the idiots that think they know everything

Quoted from Gatecrasher:

I bet you have never bought one. Do you even own a pinball machine?

#32 4 years ago
Quoted from Gatecrasher:

My point in my response was the person was only stating an opinion on which product was better because he neglected to include any real facts on why he liked one over the other.

TROLL

Learn to read and comprehend the English language. I actually did not state that I liked one over the other.

"updated all of his designs/boards since then, so if you want the most up to date revisions go with X-pin"

What that statement says, is that the X-pin boards have been revised since the pinscore designs and if that type of thing floats your boat then get the X-pin boards. This is all FACT, no opinion interjected into that statement.

And if you want my opinion, yes definitely go with X-Pin.

#33 4 years ago

Stu I've tried to be nice to you in the past but I have to tell you that you are a 100% asshole and everyone on this forum knows it.

You are a detriment to CPR and the pinball community as a whole and should be banned. You remind me of that guy on RGP "Frank Fuhrter". A foul-mouthed bastard who never has anything to add to any conversation. A smart-assed punk and an instigator. Pretty-much the textbook definition of a troll.

I don't know you kbliznick so I will refrain from grouping you in the same category and apologize if you feel I insulted you earlier. I can come off that way sometimes but really only wanted to hear your real reason for preferring the X-pin to the Pinscore because I can't tell much difference and it appears by the lack of anyone adding anything of substance here that there really isn't a whole lot of difference.

I have friends in the industry too who were on the other side of the story for these displays. That's why it irks me a little when I hear a bunch of BS on this particular topic. The bottom line is I have purchased both and think they are a wonderful product and will continue to buy them. As someone stated earlier though, since I can't see any major difference between the two and no one on here apparently can either... I'd probably go with the least expensive option.

#34 4 years ago

Gatecrasher placed on IGNORE ( I hate these trolls & their BS )

#35 4 years ago

That's OK with me Stu.

Take care.

#36 4 years ago
Quoted from jmountjoy111:

Or you could save some money and buy rottendog displays from Ks Arcade. I put a blue one in my Whirlwind. For $150 I couldn't go wrong

The prices is $259 now

#37 4 years ago

No, $150 from Big Daddy. I also have a blue one in my Whirlwind, looks great.

#38 4 years ago

Do the led displays have the ability to show dim characters? For instance, in rollergames when you spell a letter in Williams, the letters remaining are dim while then letters you have collectewd show up at normal brightness.

#39 4 years ago

Yes they do.

The brightness of the display is dependent on how often they put it up there. For example, you have a row of 16 characters. The game firmware is going to put all 16 characters up there at such a rate that it seems that they are always on, even though it turns 1 character on, then off, moves to the next, then on/off, and so on. To reduce the brightness of a character, it would skip it every other cycle or however many times needed to give the dimming effect, which would give the impression of dimming because it was not on as much as all of the other characters if they were to be on all the time.

#40 4 years ago
Quoted from johninc:

No, $150 from Big Daddy. I also have a blue one in my Whirlwind, looks great.

Thanks johninc,

I'll have to get that for my Whirlwind.

#41 4 years ago
Quoted from indypinhead:

Thanks johninc,
I'll have to get that for my Whirlwind.

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This is the one I bought from K's Arcade. Looks awesome. Like previously stated they do not have one any longer for taxi but I have no complaints with mine

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