I thought someone in the know said it would not be hand drawn art am I wrong?

I personally think Stern is shooting themselves in the foot with the 4 version model. While it seems to work now we will have to see if it works as well as the JJP model of focusing all efforts on premium and LE models.

I think that saves cost of designing 3 to 4 models and also saves time which can be dedicated to quality control, optimal layout, & software. While it is cool to have a lower cost option I think they could save time & money focusing on 2 and offer them at a better overall value to the customer. Plus if you make 1000 LEs instead of 500 there seems to be a better profit for the manufacturer in comming up with a tricked out version. I don't think Stern will change their ways unless made to so I guess wll see how it works out. I hope X-Men is awesome (all 4 models ).

Just because they are still in business does not mean that their business model should not change with the times. Less routed pins means less need for stripped down Pro models IMO. Premium and LE would be perfect for the home market.

We will see what they do and how it works out for them but times are changing pretty quickly in the Pinball universe. To stay successful in times of change companies many times need to adjust their business model to stay alive that is the point I am making. At the very least I think they should continue the Premium model on their future releases.

I highly doubt that now and am even more skeptical about that statement in the coming years.

You are assuming that companies always will make the right decision to increase profits. Many times they don't and the business goes under or does not reach maximum profitability. It is a different opinion neither mine, Baiter's, or yours is fact just different takes on the issue.

Agree to disagree I guess. I and others think they should always offer premium and are leaving some dollars behind with such limited LE runs. And for the record I could care less about the Tron LE I love the game but decided not to get it when it came out and am fine not having it now.

A few years back I would of agreed with you Drano. But now with pins on location becoming rarer and a huge increase in the home use market the pro really equates to a dumbed down version for those that can not fund an LE. Just sayin...

+2 on that. I think the art on the playfield looks good and the layout looks pretty nice as well. There is a lot going on for sure hope it plays great.

With all the machines made there are inevitably going to be similarities with layouts. It seems like we have this type of comparison for almost every new release. I find that even when I think some pins have a similar layout when it comes to gameplay they are much different. With multiple magnets, targets in different spots and shots in the middle of the field that just don't hit targets and stop it will likely play much differently IMO.

Could still work if it was all attached to one board straight on top with hings but spring on bottom so bottom moves in allowing ball to drop in. Not saying that is how it is at all just throwing it out there.

+4 on that.

I agree that cab looks pretty bad ass.

If you don't mind me asking where did you get the red flipper bats for your SM?

Well played, I may just have to give that a try they look good in your pics. Thanks for breaking it down for me charles.

Keep in mind that ex-employee is now working for the competition. I take comments made by competitors regarding each other with a grain of salt. That said, it would be nice if someone from Stern provided an explanation rather than just yank the picture and pretend it never happened.

Yea it kind of does to me as well. Could be just the shading but either way I like the effect.

Thanks for posting the pics and observations for us TL.

That is exactly what I was hoping for. The screen would fit nicely with a backglass can't wait to see the first one roll out. Maybe time to start putting some money aside.

I did not know that at all. Is there any difference in quality that anyone has noticed?

I got to agree with you here Pete. I am not going to cheat and if you make a wizard mode that only masters can get to then the vast majority of us are not going to be able to experience the thrill of it. I think the difficulty to get to SM Wizard Mode is a perfect balance of difficulty/attainability.

I am on the other side of the spectrum as you Baiter. After I reach a wizard mode if it is fun to play I want to try to get to it and play it again and again. The Pins that have a WM that you can own for 10 years and never experience unless you are a master doesn't make sense to me. As always to each their own.

I agree, totally unacceptable and it kind of shows a bit of disrespect to customers IMO.

No where in my statement do I call out Borg in particular or indicate he is doing the programing (since I already know that is not the case). I am calling out the Stern team for releasing code that had scoring errors/problems. Not sure how your response applies to my post.

It's all good. Are you thinking of picking up an X-Men rarehero?

Well said sir! I couldn't agree more they are both great games just because some may like the Pro doesn't mean the LE owners should take offense just enjoy your game that is all that maters. It is near a $2600 difference and if some like the art and package on the Pro along with game play then more power to them that is great it should not piss LE owners off that some bought the Pro and absolutely love it. Pro is out on location in certain areas and does not feel cheap at all.

Regarding the Pro lighting affects I may be looking into this a bit more when I am able to get some more play time on it. I believe the GI goes off for a second or a few lights not ordinarily lit will turn on at certain times. If the GI goes off on certain shots then you can very likely use the PIG to wire a few lights to the GI and use the inverter switch on the PIG unit to tell that string to light when the GI is off. If a few lights go on during a certain shot that aren't ordinarily on you can use the PIG to light a string when those are on. That would create a cool look that is interactive with gameplay.

I noticed this as well. I saw it was mentioned raising the height of the ramp cover may help. You think putting down a small strip of felt tape would pad and slow down the ball a little to prevent this? I used this trick for the upper left ramp on BF to prevent ball from going too fast and flying off the wire rails and it worked like a charm with no negative effects that I could notice.

Looks much better Drano!

Guys I enjoy reading both your posts most of the time. Here you both disagree and that is okay. Please let it go and lets continue discussing other aspects of this cool pin.

Well I really enjoyed both models each very fun pins IMO. I played both a decent amount and if your into the comic X-Men then it should be right up your alley. I came away really loving how the Pro played a lot and am getting one of them. I liked the overall artwork on the Pro cabinet, back box, and backglass they did a great job on it IMO. Less features then the LE but also will likely be much less problematic as far as having to fix things as well. That's something to think about since it will be your first pin. Like Donnyman I bought mine through Gexchange.

I agree that would be cool. It would be awesome if they implemented this type of thing and also added a mini wizard mode. If they did both that could make for one of the coolest rulesets out there.

Updating the code 1.3 would be nice especially with all these technical difficulties people are having with the pin. And please make sure to update the code for the Pro as well Stern. Don't give the haters more fuel or supporters reason to jump ship. Stand by your product and make it the best it can be.

Don't do that AkumoZeto if you heard something please do share it with us. Do you know if the update(s) to come will include the Pro Version? I remember you saying you're getting one so figured you may know.

Yea I think they better start making sure all models get 100% of the bugs worked out going forward. Otherwise pinheads may start looking elsewhere to get their pins.

I agree the voice of beast should be redone and I think they will. Storm if not redone could definitely be adjusted a bit volume wise IMO.

That is a bit anticlimactic. I hope they address this in future code releases and create an ending to the completed mode that would at least let you know you have accomplished something.

To each their own, not every pin will be for everyone or be condusive to their playing style so they may just have tough time with it. I do hope they update the software for the Pro though.

I beleive he is refering to Vinyl static cling like pinball pal used to sell. Provides similar protection as mylar without the mess/difficulty if you want to remove it.

Sorry I got that wrong although we may be talking about the same type of product. Just for clarification thin static cling Vinyl has worked very well for me. Here is a thread with more info for this includes link to buy Frisket Film Gloss on Amazon with free shipping.

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pinball-vinyl-protector-sheets

Have to agree with Eskaybee. I am not a fan of Wizard modes that none elite players will never see or reach. I hope the update makes adjustments to make Dark Pheonix a reachable mode (not easy) but reachable for an average owner to reach at least once every year or two.

Hey it is all good Rob not everyone will like the same pins. If I don't love playing a pin it's got to go sooner or later. I can't imagine getting a pin before I play it although that will happen with Predator so I guess us pinball addicts will take our chances when compelled to. I think some of the call outs could use some definite improvement and software refinement is needed.

That said, I love X-Men it is just flat out fun to me. I like it better than Tron (thats right I said it and mean it) and many other great pins as well. I know I may be in the minority there and that is okay the only one that has to love the pins I own is me. Good luck finding it a new home and finding another pin that you just can't stop playing.

I've gone from hating it to respecting it but still far from loving it. If that makes any sense at all.. For me I think the layout and a lack of variety of shots for having so many flippers. Definitely not one of those great flow pins. Being so dark also pisses me off from time to time even though I know it's part of the theme.

I have to say calling people excited over a release being a 'hype train' is funny to me. So from now on when people are excited about a release and pin they get it is all hype? I personally like when people are excited about a new release it shows that pinball is alive and well.

I would definitely recommend playing it first as I did. But to jump to a conclusion that a pin is not what people expected or isn't good because a few owners that got it were disappointed is somewhat short sighted. No pin is ever going to be liked by everyone that is a fact.

I hear you Jon. I did not really even look at the threads until I played it and loved it so maybe I didn't get the full dose as some did. I honestly thought there was no way I would get this release and would instead wait to see what was next for Stern and JJP. Then I played it and got hooked. To me and it is only my opinion it is without a doubt the funnest Borg creation I have played and I do really enjoy playing many of his pins.

I noticed that on the test Pro model at Pacific Pinball as well. Hopefully one of us pinheads after tweaking a few things can come up with an adequate solution to this problem.

Well I have to disagree with you on the flow aspect jimjim. I would put X-Men in the good flow category. I can definitely see why you have the opinion that it is not though. It is not one of those flow pins that have shots in an open fan type of layout it is more crowded and the shots are a bit tougher to pull off together. That said, when you are hitting your shots this pin is very fast and flows very well IMO.

To me it is like a hybrid layout that rewards you if you hit your shots with some very fast flow but is not given you have to earn it. I would say it's a shooters pin with a good variety of shots that require a decent amount of percision. As always though I respect your opinion on it just wanted to put in my 2 cents.

Well put jimjim. I guess I have to agree to agree now. If only we could get some code that rewarded us amply for hitting those tight fast combos....

Okay if you don't like the pin fair enough. I have heard many of the criticisms and I do not share many of those views and that is okay nothing wrong with being excited about a pin. Please stop with the predictions of prices or that there is some sort of fire sale when there is not. The truth is no one knows how the community views it within the first year. SM took a long time and some code updates to get the respect it does today.

I could care less who or even why some are selling, I'm really enjoying the game now and can't wait for an update for it. I think once the code is complete and some time goes by this pin will get the respect it deserves from the community. And if not, I'm still going to enjoy playing it nontheless. It's all good if you don't like it but to keep harping on it just gets a little old.

Sell it and be done with it Rob. It is a discussion board but when people such as yourself keep stating your opinion over and over on threads where many owners (that like the pin) come to talk about their new pin it does get old and can be taken too far. Review your last comments in all the different X-Men threads you have stated your view on it more that a few times pretty clearly and without any negative comment by me in reply. Please don't become one of those that just try to start arguments. I let people voice their opinions without any issue. The problem becomes when people don't let it go and continue to try and take over a thread.

As far as being a moderator I think most pinsiders think we do a great job and are thankful that we are here. We don't get paid but have to deal with some seriously silly situations/pinheads on a regular because we care for the site.

I edited my statement not trolling you just like to be difficult sometimes and I won't be pulled in. It seems like you like doing that to some pinsiders and I don't see why. I don't read every single post and have to try and monitor so many that it is crazy so a little slack please. Your lack of respect for me is evident and that is fine not the first or last time a fellow pinsider has tried to get my goat.

Your accusations that I constantly have negative comments in response to those that don't like the pin is rediculous. But I do not hold grudges as some seem to so I will let it go. I actually can see why some don't care for the pin it definitely is defferent and unpridictable which can be frustrating.

If you want to continue to state your opinion over and over then go ahead. I think it is unappropriate to try and take over a thread with negativity but if that is what you feel you must do to enjoy your time here then have at it. I am done with the conversation seems like you always like to have the last say on things so go ahead.

What a class act... I'd appreciate you keeping me out of your posts I will do the same for you.

Had family and friends over this weekend all really enjoyed it what a fun pin! My brother said it may be his new favorite I was surprised how much they enjoyed playing it. Love the lighting effects with flasher in magneto and storm backboard. Artwork is great and the gameplay is just crazy unlike any other pin I've played. Enjoying it very much glad to see some others are as well that's what pinball is all about.

You have some great ideas pouring out of ya work can wait. I agree they are missing a big opportunity to add cohesion and fun to the game if they do not incorporate something like this into it.

It would be cool if they had the Xavier shot pause the timer on some villains for 10 to 15 seconds and if you hit a particular shot within that time period a larger than normal amount of damage is done. They also should work on incorporating combos into scoring and mode completion better. I do think Hellfire and Brotherhood should be a bit more attainable.

Yeah it would be nice for Hellfire and Brotherhood hits to count in modes. Maybe if they just didn't count hits during multi-ball modes but counted in all other modes that would make them a bit more attainable but still not too easy.

I would get quotes from JJ at the Game Exchange of Colorado and Trent at Tilt Amusements.

This is great news indeed! Thanks to Lyman and the Stern crew for continuing to perfect the X-Men code.

Well I think Stern continuing to perfect code is very important for all models. Most people will play the Pros on location it's important to put your best foot forward for the players judging your pins.

It is cool that Stern has switched gears recognized the home buying audience and is now communicating regarding code updates. As long as the powerpack kicks ass I could care less about the wording used to tell me it is coming.

I feel you there the powerpacks better be substantial especially for a pin like X-Men. If not I will be very disappointed. The code for X-Men if perfected has the potential to be awesome. I was encouraged when it was mentioned that Lyman would help out a bit to ironing out the code. Seems like Stern may be getting it that sub par code will not fly with the home owner crowd.

Yes please give us more reward for combos with options for stacking and for a deep pin like this villain progression would be a welcome adjustment. I really do hope that Stern has turned a corner and will now put a much bigger emphasis on completing the code for their customers.

I was wondering if you needed to successfully complete all the villains to get to Dark Phoenix?

All models need to have complete code. I think it would be huge step backwards if they started to say okay more pinball fans will likely play the Pro model but lets take out necessary code features so the LE owners can feel special. They can bling out the LE with lighting, trim, art, and maybe a few more features without gutting the Pro models code.

Well I know a lot of pinheads that have had decent time on both prefer the way the Pro looks and plays myself included. More than a few local pinheads that don't own either liked the feel of the Pro better. Not trying to start a back and forth argument at all just my opinion. I say play both see which you like better.

Sorry you didn't care for it methos. At least there are plenty of other pins to spend money and time on if you don't like this release.

To each their own Rarehero just wanted to show the other side of the coin and point out some do actually prefer the Pro and there is nothing wrong with that. As long as pinball is being enjoyed that is all that matters.

Couldn't agree more with you on that one pmWolf. I hope Waison does not confuse creating impossible to beat code with what good coding is. It is very possible to create great code that an average player may see once a year. Making it impossible to accomplish does not make it great code and to me as a player I don't really like it when programmers do this.

Good point, you definitely need to take your shots at the targets as often as you get the chance out of any mode. With practice you can actually get pretty good at hitting them even combo hellfire over to brotherhood. Or hit brotherhood have it fly up and back down to hit it twice with one shot it is kind of fun to try and master those shots and preventing a drain by hitting them just right.

Yea I had to tape some in certain areas to their socket with duct tape none have come out since.

I don't know what area your talking about can you be more specific? Under Sentinel plastic or on top of back board storm area?

Award us for these tough to hit combos with multipliers or at least something. Make completing the Villains worth more and have the number of completed Hero's do extra damage on Villains. Make Brotherhood and Hellfire hits register while playing Villain modes as well as when no modes are running. Give us a mini wizard mode like Dead Pool.

This is a tough playfield with a lot of unpredictability please find ways to ease up on the difficulty of the software a bit. Not saying make it easy by any means just some tweaks to make it a more balanced and approachable. I get that this is a players pin but a very tough playfield like this combined with unreasonably hard code could really negatively affect the popularity of this title.

Wow, why take out great content in an update? With the rumored pogression they are working on for villains I am hoping that Dark Phoenix may actually be attainable. Not sure why programers spend time making modes people will never see without cheating. Really annoying.

Laseriffic does some great custom toppers.

White rubbers on XM is what nightmares are made of. This is one of the last pins I would ever think of putting white in due to how bouncy they are. 2 Magnets and super slings last thing I need are white rubbers bouncing the ball like crazy as well. As always to each their own I know many prefer the white rubbers.

I couldn't be happier to see this pin get a little redemption after the rocky start. I always loved the layout and thought it deserved a lot more respect but was never sure it would recover from it's problems during the release. It's awesome that many seem to be really loving it now.

I've put the icicles on my Pro it will fit and looks very nice with some cutting and a bit of patience. Cool idea I'm glad I ran across your post to get it done nice touch. Thanks for posting it for us.

Just cosmetic looks pretty cool IMO.

I really like the 2 LED premium bulbs and the caps that come with them. Not too intense while providing good illumination. Hope you are enjoying your new pin!

Good call by the wife that pic is absolutely awesome!!

On mine I resisted for a while but now have them set tight as can go. I found I prefer the inlanes all the way in on this crazy ass pin.

Yea no real need to crank the pitch up on this title IMO. Mine is at 6.5 and it plays very well. Wolverine magnet does not always catch the ball but does so more then not.

If your having that erratic behavior on magnets and Nightcrawler then you should contact Stern and your distributer sooner rather than later DugFreez.

No the Pros don't have the aux boards that has given many LE owners grief. That one in SF is a good deal especially with all the mods that come with it.

It was the boards not the code. Stern has released revised boards that seem to be working. I do remember an owner saying a week ago that he recently needed to get a new aux board. I can't remember what thread that was in though.

Yea great feature having the ready Villain multiballs only require one hit to re-light villain. Adds strategy and accessibility to the modes. Hope they keep that in the code till the end because it is great.

Hey guys I know this has been covered but can someone help me out? What type of LEDs should I put in for under the Magneto figure (the stock one blew out) and the Magneto spot light? Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks for the info! I already have Zdoors painted figures but do need to add HemiOrange09 Magneto mod before I go through the process of removing the figure though. The figure will be reinstalled using museum putty to hold it down so it will be easier to remove in the future.

Thanks for helping a dude out Eskaybee.

Yeah I've been as far as all but two Villains completed with both villain multiball jackpots achieved. So I guess it is possible but I don't have that type of game often so it's an uphill battle. Sure would help to have 25 combos actually light extra ball especially on the Pro.

Totally with you on that. It's an addictive pin that demands your full attention and challenges your hand eye coordination. Seriously, the ball can change directions at speed in a blink of an eye with the magnets. Love the layout and can't wait for the next update!

Come on Tiger don't let them off the hook that easy. The game as is right now is incomplete and it has been over a year now. No extra ball for 25 combos, no deadpool ect. Don't get me wrong I love the game to but am a bit tired of waiting to them to make things right with those that went through this roller coaster and FINISH THE CODE! Especially with Stern increasing prices with every new pin they make we can't let stuff like this slide with what they are asking for their machines.

I know you were just being optimistic sometimes it is refreshing to do that here once and a while! I'm just taken back at how high they are quickly increasing the price on their new releases a bit frustrating. This stuff can not slide we need to have them mark it zero and finish the code.

Telling a pinball addict not to buy a title/theme they absolutely love just so it may affect Sterns business model is like telling a crack head not to go to the 5:00 free crack give away.
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No but seriously we have every right to complain and ask for things to be made right. Sometimes this stuff does get through and things improve.

I honestly don't think the distributors will sell out of the ST LE unless tons are bought from abroad since price difference is much less than in the US between Premium and LE. They may claim they have sold out to hike the price but I think there will be some floating around for a while.

Good question! In my opinion XM owners have waited long enough for this pin to be finished. It is one of the only things that have me waiting to buy a Star Trek Premium. Pretty unacceptable for a pin that got off to such a rough start in the code department to take so long to deliver the complete game. Give us Deadpool, extra ball for 25 combos, and finish this pin off already!

I am usually a Stern supporter but they need to step up their game in the software/code department or I have to spend my money elsewhere.

Fix bugs, add a combo reward wizard mode Deadpool, actually light and reward extra ball after 25 combos. Make sure all wizard modes have non-repetitive rules and no longer have dmd placeholders. If they did that I would think it is complete. But after being promised at least one more update by Borg and others looks like XM is getting lost in the shuffle. Please all involved in this project push to get the opportunity to finish it as the end result reflects on everyone involved in the project. Sure seems like most SR releases get adequately polished code fans and buyers take notice of that. Hopefully Stern follows through with this one and all new releases. If they don't I think it could very well impact Stern's bottom line very soon.

It's not going to be a letter signed or something but I know of a few people he told that there would be at least 1 other code update for XM. SR gets more polished games (code wise) because he puts up a fight for it IMO. A good design is wasted if not supported by code. Sterns policy to pump out as many games as possible and forget about previous releases and their code makes employees look like they just don't care. Pretty sad when employees need to work without being paid to maintain their reputations.

Thanks for the info. Please Borg push for the XM code to be finished it is such a great design finishing the code on it would likely put it in with some of my favorite pins of all time. I was so disappointed when I heard SR comments regarding the XM code it felt like a punch to the gut. I own both ST and XM and I have no interest in having all resources on the current release ST if that means leaving other previous releases unfinished.

Please Stern, allow at least a few members of the XM team finish this one out and let the ST team continue working on it in the months to come to get it finished. We are fans/buyers and what many of us want most of all is for the games we buy from you to have great rulesets that are complete within a year of their release.

Congrats it is an awesome pin indeed!

Steve is a briliant designer but he is human and has been wrong on occasion. He had a lot going on with his project at the time I doubt he knew exactly what other pins that Stern would be working on an update for. I am very optimistic that Borg and the team will make sure XM gets finished code wise.

That looks great in that spot nice Magneto art to the right of it!

I hope your wrong too. Nah in all seriousness I hope they take the time needed to finish the code off in style.

I also have a little trouble with the Rogue switch on my Pro. I've tested it and even change out the switch the physical switch is fine but sometimes it does not seem to register when I hit the shot I'm really confused on why this is. Perhaps it does not register a rogue hit on skill shot? I'm not sure but something has always seemed off with the Rogue switch and hit registers. Anyone else notice this?

Very cool thanks for the pics and information! I'll give it a try see if it helps.

Our time has come indeed, cant wait to play me some XM with new code!!

Oh my goodness please update that software latest update is much much better than 1.21!!

Oh it will so get started thinking about how & what your gonna add.

Game is tough enough without making another mode pretty hard to get to IMO Dug.

Forget all that man the magnets are one of the best features of the game creating randomness keeping the game fresh.

I much prefer the Pro to the LE. Why is that silly? Gameplay is different and people will prefer different things. I dislike the iceman ramp on LE and think the night crawlers while they look cool they are way to big and almost impossible to miss. I prefer to hit the ramps for night crawler and keep the flow going. I love the spinner but truthfully when it is spinning and magnet is active it actually slows down a magnet pulse/fling. I prefer to feel the full force of the magnet unimpeded. After all they did 3 runs of Pros but no Premium. I played both before buying and I had the money to get any model. I preferred how the Pro played so bought that and saved money. Silly to you maybe but to me a no brainer to get what I preferred and save money at the same time.

I can definitely respect that you prefer the LE but to call those that like the Pro silly is a bit silly IMO. I find it weird that some need to claim that one is without question better than the other. They are both fun why can't it just be left at that.

Ok using that logic given my preferences you paid $100 for $10 since I like the Pro much better. Look man is it so hard to understand that someone prefers something you don't?

My modded stock GI has more always active bulbs than the LE making the playfield better illuminated and colors to my preference. I have a modded apron illuminated with GI bulbs and equipped with game interactive flashers which I would take over any of the other stock models. The LE does not have more magnets man come on.

Voice of reason makes me embarrassed I even posted above. Sorry, you are right its lame for threads like this to get derailed by silly bickering about which model is superior. The game is awesome regardless of the model!

Had a pretty good game last night and have to say I'm loving what this update brings to the table. Making a pin I already really enjoy even better. Deadpool helps you slay villains which is a big improvement and the added light show was a very welcome addition. Big thanks to Borg, Waison & the Stern team for not giving up on XM!!

A combo shot is signified by solid red arrows after you hit an initial shot. So hitting the iceman ramp over and over will do you no good you need to hit the shots that have the solid red arrow lit for about 7-8 seconds after hitting a shot. Generally on the opposite side of the field as the initial hit shot.

Perhaps it may help to spend some time playing a few and just focus on hitting the combos. Easy way to get a combo (as mentioned above) is to hit a shot on the right like the iceman ramp then hit wolverine. Or cyclops to either storm or rogue. Also combos still count in multiball so that is a nice way to get em. With some practice and understanding I don't think 10 will seem so difficult. My best game with new code so far is 68 total combos. I'm liking how Deadpool is hooked up to combos because it adds another layer to an already awesome rule set.

They do not need to be in a row you can work your way up two by two at different times throughout the game.

I had all villains complete except for Brotherhood today. Ahhh I could F'N taste it!!!!

Yes!!!! Finally got to Dark Phoenix. Pretty damn fun mode. I love this pin!!
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It was so fun I'm no world class player but for me it was a pretty monster game. On XM you need to be on your game to progress far. Doesn't happen all the time but when your hitting shot after shot it's such a rush. I really love the modes and how the game all flows together now that Villians are easier to defeat especially with Deadpools help.