I think its because the clearance is different with the moving ramp, so it needs to be mounted differently.

and than, on the LE, the wolve is more on the left, that means less space to go to Beast left loop...

They are mounted differently on the pro and LE but I believe the figures are the same.

You can use the pro one on the LE" but the figure will be mounted facing into the beast lane and leave it a tight shot. Most people have remounted the figure to be similar to the Pro where it faces towards the magnet.

wont it also cause the claws to get in the way of the ice ramp or is that wrong?

I've enjoyed working on it. It makes the wait on parts to arrive bearable. With no hints on the DMD or the playfield, seemed like testing with the glass off is necessary to figure out the score progressions.

You drop out of the wizard mode when all balls drain, ending your ball. You can be down to one ball and still be in Danger Room. You cannot restart Danger Room after you have started it, even if you complete all heroes again. I added that to the rulesheet. I've mainly tested with 1.51 and hero stacking off.

now that looks very familiar..

Well his claws are pointed directly at the ramp no matter how you mount it. Nice custom figure Stern. ...but they should go under the ramp when the ramp is moved to the left.

There really was no reason for Wolvie to be mounted differently between the Pro and the LE. I'm guessing they were just in crunch time and someone shouted "What about the spinning disc?!? Maybe he will be in the way of the spinning disc!!! Hurry...someone grab a router and we can move him over into the Beast lane. That's not really an important shot anyway...everyone knows the Beast sound clips are crap anyway! Here...hack this Blackbird plastic off over the scoop!!! Wait....his elbow is dragging...get a grinder...we need to cut that off too!! GRINDER!!! Oh wait...it's dragging on the Pro too! We need more grinder!!!"

I liked how they talked about how much time they had to work on X-Men...so much more time than a regular game. Yet all of the early pics of the LE were Photoshopped pics of the Pro with the LE features faked in. I can't think of any bigger rush job game. The Wolvie "custom" figure alone is enough to tell the story. Custom designed to have his elbow ground off.

No reason to have him there now. Throw him away.

Install Jeremy's Newton ball bracket and he is gone forever.

No reason to moan then ... Game is as Borg designed it originally.

rd.

Does this work for the LE?

I think it's pretty lame that you can not restart DR it's just laziness or lack of care for prior buyers that Stern doesn't brush up the code so that minor issues like this are resolved.

Yes it does. That is what rotodave has. Make sure to check out his thread:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/judremys-xmen-wolverine-solution-with-gameplay#post-2151723

I should have the new prototype installed this weekend. After I test it for a bit, I will give the go ahead to TMezel if all is well. There will still be other parts you will need to order if you want to use it. TMezel will only provide the piece to mount in the slot where Wolverine was.

These are the posts you need (4 posts with 3 rubber or Cliffy sleeves):
http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/02-4036-1

You don't put a rubber sleeve on the back right post (on the Pro). On the LE, it might end up being the back left post. You can tell based on if a ball can hit the post.

The Newton ball is this one:
http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/04-10005

You will also need a 3/4" ball. You can get these from packages of ball bearings on Amazon or elsewhere like this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Avler-Chrome-Bearing-Paracord-Monkey/dp/B00C7KGVK4/ref=sr_1_1

Unfortunately, I don't really have time to make kits and send them out. I did this for my own personal machine and others have really come to like it. I think the machine plays faster and better with this there. After all, it seems to have been in the original designs and only removed to add a very badly designed "toy". If X-Men had the captive ball like it was originally designed to, I think it would have sold better (and better software too).

rotodave, if you can update your first post in your thread with the part info, that would be great.

BAA has the posts for a buck cheaper if anyone is going this route.

If MezelMods makes the bracket I am so in on doing this mod.

Thanks.

Just curious Dave. Does this mod make the game too easy?

If any could put a kit together for the LE. I'd be greatly appreciated. I'll pay for the time involved on your end, in other words if anyone is ordering one set of parts and could order two of everything etc.. I'd pay for a complete kit.

PM me.

I don't feel it does. I think the Wolverine figure was an afterthought and made the game harder than it should be. The design doesn't make sense with the figure there. It DOES make Wolverine harder to hit, which I like.

I'm seriously thinking about the captive ball mod. Even though mine hasn't broken yet (knock on wood), it drives me nuts that if 4 ball are on the Magneto spinner at the beginning of his multiball the outer one bangs into Wolverine every rotation. Such a good trick ruined by being too close. 3 balls spin perfect. Just one more reason that this is a great idea.

Was this question answered?

if a pinball parts store offered the captive ball kit so i didn't have ship and purchase the parts separately, i'd probably buy some other parts from their store.
hello? i want to send you money!

Yes 6 posts up.

Here was the response to your question TigerLaw

5) Aurich

Stan Lee

No. It makes the Beast and Xavior shot "as they should be"

It makes Wolverine slightly harder to complete, as the target becomes smaller.

With the byproduct that you're not starting Wolverine all the time.

If you watch the video linked in the thread above, I talk through everything.

rd.

How is it difficult to place two small orders in order to radically improve your game?

Jeremy has even provided the parts numbers.

Jeeeezzzzz

rd.

I rarely buy from Marco as they are a rip off. Here are the parts numbers from Pinball Life.

I agree that the prices are a bit higher, but the posts that I recommend are the ones that the "mount" are designed for. In addition, it lets you make a clear lexan piece to mount on top. you can then mount several different Wolverine figures such as the one I bought or many others on Amazon that you can split at the waist like this (not my machine):

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it's not difficult, it's a matter of time. and I don't know what I would do with the leftover 3/4" ball bearings out of that 10 pack. it's more crap that i don't need.
and I saw people were posting parts earlier but it wasn't clear that they would fit together and I didn't want to deal with the frustration of getting the order wrong or asking a bunch of questions.

thanks for working on this and testing it out

If someone put this mod out with a figure it would sell like hotcakes. I know I would be in for one.

Yes, I forgot yours had the threaded posts. I'm sure Pinball Life sells those too.

That's the beauty, you can do it whatever way you want.

rd.

Actually, they don't. I wanted to buy them from Terry, but it seems to be a part that isn't heavily demanded. It just happens to fill those holes left behind perfectly with a great threaded top left behind.

Is anyone working on a Pro and LE decal to cover the exposed wood around that area?

Negative. Had a person, but not sure what happened. Might have been my fault as I became quite busy when a was unemployed a short time ago. If anyone wants to, I say go for it.

Does Aurich own this game? If so, we should hit him up...

I am glad there is an alternative replacement for this part that cost $110 to replace each time it breaks. I play X-Men more than any other machine in my small collection. I have a painted wolverine character by Z door that I love. (aesthetically speaking) Thankfully the character has not completely broken, (large crack down the back that I think helps with resiliency for now.) because I would be bummed.

That being said, when it does go, I am glad someone has had the forethought to change the mechanism to something that could be aesthetically better and play like it looks. Hopefully the pinball companies will change there thinking on bash toys and make them "bullet proof".

Thanks again for the alternative.

Danny

Wish Stern or some secondary would come up with a good mod that was a complete kit.

I'd buy it in a heart beat.

seriously we need it for our pin.

I'd consider getting a mod for Gambit playing cards as pop bumper caps and a Blackbird plane that lights up if those were available somewhere.

So is xmen a keeper?

Certainly a keeper in my collection. I sold my Tron LE over my XMen LE. Granted, XMen was always a dream theme for me, but I just think the game looks amazing . . . great art work and color scheme that I just could not imagine getting rid of it even if I started playing it less.

Yes.

Love my Magneto and would love to get rid of that huge bash toy

For me it is, I didn't like it much the first year or so, but lately I've played it as much or more than any of my games.

A definite keeper for me. Would be one of the last to leave my collection. I even think the stock Wolverine bash toy is fine.

I wish someone would make a topper with a lot of characters, not just wolverine or magneto

Heres mine sent u a pm

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nice one, its "hot" for sure !

Without question. We've had ours since NIB 2 years ago, and still play it almost every day.

Later,
EV