Agreed.
I was at robs house yesterday watching him play; he was on ball 2 and just finished the initial mmb and I remarked, "nice Job, now you get to start playing the game."

The initial mmb is cool in theory but has a pointless delivery. That's why I suggested implementing it later in the game. After all, how often do heroes fight the villains in a "final battle" in comics, tv, movies, or video games? Answer - all the time. So putting this sequence as a mini wizard mode deeper in the game seems fitting to me.

If his insert would just stop flashing I would consider that an awesome award.

Someone said that they are going to make it so the ramp does *not* move to the left side of the PF during MB in the next update.

It does sound like a wizard mode that they accidentally put at the start of the game... If there was SOME connection to how the rest of the game progressed, it would make a bit more sense, but to simply have it as an initial point scorer with no knock-on effect sounds a bit silly... and annoying... This could be that mini-wizard you mentioned for getting all the modes started

I'll take a stab at this one more time before we start beating a dead horse here. I'm talking about official Stern code (not hacked) and 'x' amount of time is not user selectable through software but something Stern comes up with as a default value that works. Now that I took a closer look at the PF the distance of the left inlane switch would be greater distance than the right inlane, this would make a software option even more realistic because we are talking a very short window for the lit right inlane to award from a know average time stamp from the ramp made switch and end of loop when the left inlane switch hit or timeout/incorrect lit lane to trigger a missed right inlane shot. We're talking fractions of a second here and I really think this could actually work.

As for a physical swith added to the end of the ramp drop area would still be over two inches away from the original right inlane switch and be more confusing and have more crap in the way of the hard to see right side anyway.

This is all just fun hypothetical talk and I'm sure Stern will come up with something creative regardless and not leave people hanging.

exactly!

I have to say I admire your optimism!! On 2nd thought's, I've just realised it's a joke... sorry for initial confusion...

For those of you that want villain mode progression or somehow to make the villains easier, after playing some more, I really don't think we need it. The villains are very easily defeated with this strategy:

1) Lock 3 balls
2) Start a villain mode
3) Lock 4th ball
4) Ignore the MB and shoot only the villain shots.

I've had some really awesome luck beating each villain mode I've started this way - I'm about 75% chance that I will defeat the villain doing ths. The MB stacking with villain modes totally works in your favor. It also gives subsequent MB's a purpose since they don't score right now.

Absolutely what I've been doing as well. Still....there are so many modes, that it's still somewhat hard to stack them all with MB.

This has annoyed me for years. The left target on my TAF bear kick ramp always points outward and makes the Thing shot just that much tighter. It is very common.
A smaller hole wouldn't do anything since the target itself is wider than the arm of the switch. The hole has to be large enough to pass the target through. I'm just surprised nobody has ever come up with a plastic or metal spacer insert that could snap into place once the switch is installed. This would be the most effect method of keeping them straight up.

I've done this to beat a couple of villains, but couldn't pay attention to the DMD while playing. I know the villain mode sounds effects still trigger while in multiball mode, but does it show any of the villain mode DMD animations also?

It at least seems to when you defeat them. I am generally too busy playing to look even in single ball. DMD animations are really only good for spectators in my opinion.

I really think this is a viable strategy since the magneto MB is so easy to start. It's very similar to my AFM strategy of destroying ships 3-end during MB to avoid the center drains from shooting the ship.

Thanks Man, I just called automated services and ordered the shaker motor. $150 shipped. Awesome deal.

How's your success rate with hellfire and brotherhood? I just foresee a roadblock with these two modes which is why I suggested the whole memory progression in the first place. I don't know why adding progression is such an issue. Most great pins do not require completing ALL modes to advance in a game.

Actually, those modes will be difficult. I have only started them a couple times and the balls drained massively fast. I have a problem with any game that requires completing a multiball mode, generally. But as long as the whole game isnt stalled out waiting on those modes to complete and you can still do other things, I dont see a problem with them being difficult. I feel I'm capable of beating all my games except LoTR if i have a good enough game. I have no problem owning a game that's considerably harder. Ironman may be the 2nd hardest since everything has to be done on one ball. Avatar is similar in that regard also.

Incorrect. If you want to only play (not complete) the modes in IM/Avatar to get to wizard mode, you have to do it in one ball...however if you complete a mode (making the insert solid), it will carry over to the next ball and you won't have to play that mode again for wizard. Avatar is considerably easier than IM to complete modes/reach wizard, IMO.

Ok so I guess in ironman you only hit the mini wizard "do or die" by starting each mode in one ball. And each mode you complete survives the ball drain.

Yeah, it's really hard on IM to complete some of those modes in one ball. I could complete the Multiballs...but for IM you have to start 3 IM Fast Scorings in one ball, and honestly I have no idea how to complete Drones...never did it once lol

Is the update here yet?

I did it with the glass off to try to figure it out, and while I managed to do it, I have no idea exactly what I did. I *think* you need to complete them four times with one ball to make it flash. Honestly, while I love IM and it is still easily my favorite game ever made, I really don't understand how the Do or Die Multiball qualification makes any sense.

I'll never get there, so it doesn't bother me though.

I'm running 4.2 ...get with the times, man!

ROFL

Damn! 73 new posts today, I clicked in here hoping that meant there'd been an update...

I just loaded up 6.03!!!! They're on a f*cking roll! GO STERN! The new Prof X Wheelchair Multiball is UNREAL!!!!

Wait until you see that they're sending out a power pack with an extra magnet to install in magneto's hand. The one on the playfield will launch a ball straight up to it in order to lock it in his hand.

And when it misses it causes this really cool effect with the glass. It's truly a game changer and it's one of the best interactive toys ever in a pinball machine.

Well, now my boss knows I'm just goofing off on the net cuz I cannot stop laughing!

Wait until you see that they're sending out a power pack with an extra magnet to install in magneto's hand. The one on the playfield will launch a ball straight up to it in order to lock it in his hand.

I liked the toy until I found that they had to cut off his fingers to make it fit power pack- take about a design flaw...

damn it for a second i thought the code was out. you jack wagons cut that out!

I thought for sure the update was coming. Man this is taking a while!

You would think since they were letting distributors (or at least a distributor) play on it last week it would be a Monday post.

Is this a pinball machine or a woman?!! OOOOOOoooooooohhhhhh!!!!!!

I thought it was just complete the 3rd Iron Man award, not just in one ball.

Drones is not complete until after you've finished the 3rd set. Pretty sure that that one doesn't have to be all one ball either.

(Rating of X-men)
(Fearless_Leader rated this game on August 05, 2012.)
“Had a chance to play this today for the first time. 3 games played and I think it was the biggest letdown since I played Rolling Stones. How some of you can rate this as the best pinball of all time when it's been out for less than a month is bewildering. I can understand anticipation, but this is merely an average game with a cool idea for a theme.

This really annoys me, how can you review a game here with only 3 games played??? Do most people rate games after playing it only a few times? Or am I one of the only ones who plays a table at least 30 times before reviewing it? Im just saying. 3 games isn't enough time on a table IMO to give it a fair rating.

Wednesday of what year?

What will come first WOZ machine or X-men update!

I hope they just take out scoring completely to F with all of ya

LOL...imagine if they make it like NBA Fastbreak.

The drones and im targets have to be completed three times but not on one ball. That's only for the do or die multi ball wizard mode. Completing all five characters on one ball gets you do or die single ball wizard. Completing the iron man chest symbols over your game gets you to jericho wizard mode. Only one of the three wizard modes is actually mandated to one ball.

We should have a "Days _#___ without an Update" post.

Glad we still haven't received ours down here, by the time we get them the update might be out

gotta go with Woz at this point.

should have them soon .. prob a couple of days for where you are if you are going through and

I sure hope it's Wednesday, because that's the day my replacement Wolverine shows up (first one was damaged in shipping for those of you that missed that in this 100 page plus thread). It would be nice to unpack that baby load it with new software and have my first impressions be with the new code.
Wednesday, Wednesday, Wednesday!!!

Kevin

Key on the word might

3 weeks ago someone "in the know" said the code update was coming next week. The following week someone "in the know" said it was coming next week. Last week someone "in the know" said its coming out this week. So in my effort of reverse psychology I will state that I don't know jack and the code has now been pushed out to mid-late next week. Sorry for the bad news.

I am hoping by Thursday. I start vacation on Friday and a couple of weeks of playing X-men with updated code would be awesome. Maybe I will actually start to get good at it