Sounds like you have your answer right here. If you get Xmen go LE.

le for sure. better resale value.

Take a look at the underside of the playfield and you'll see all that will be missing on the pro (pop up assemblies, spinner motor, etc.). Plus the color changing LED's in the modes is just awesome and adds a lot to the feel of the game.. IMO, you could compare it to Tron LE vs Pro with the different lighting, but not as dramatic (obviously).

The Nightcrawlers will be better integrated into the next code, you can bet money on that.. so don't make a decision based on the fact that they are hardly used now.

My initial thoughts where go with a pro, but now that it's been released I feel that the LE is the way to go. Just way to many differences between the two. You can't transform a pro into an LE like you could with TRON. Go with an LE. If I had the money I would. Magnito art package is my favorite of the two LE's, plus they made 50 less, so you really are in an exclusive club.

You are paying extra for the limited factor as well. I'm no psychic, but believe these games will rise in value pretty fast. If you get a LE and decide it is not for you, you will certainly not lose money if you want to sell and downsize to a Pro. Go for it.

Just an opinion: (Don't have either, haven't played either)

The Limited Edition seems incredible. This is the biggest disparity between a Pro and Limited Edition that Stern has done. Ice Ramp, Spinning Disc, Night Crawler pop ups- look like the best 3 best features on the machine. They should have at least kept one for the Pro model.

If you have the money, the LE seems the way to go. Probably hold its value longer, or even appreciate.

If you don't have the money, go with the Pro model. I'm sure you will be happy.

Only time will tell if this is true.
Personally, if there are major alterations to a game in the LE version that directly impact how the game is played, I want the full version. In a case like Tron or SM where the pro isn't really all that different, I go pro. For something like ACDC or XM, it's LE all the way.

Also, if you think youre overpaying for an XM LE now, wait until the distributors are all sold out
This pin might be pushing $10K for a NIB this time next year.

I would not be comfortable pre ordering Avengers with Gomez/Lonnie combo team after the TF disappointment. I'm just coming off of buying AC/DC premium followed directly by Xmen LE. I'm done for 2012. I do hope he takes all the criticism and comes out with a show stopper in Avengers for all you guys waiting for it. Get the Mags and hang a Pro translight on your wall.

I personally think you made the right choice.

I'm against the grain on this one, I'm just going to get a pro (as soon as people confirm the software is up to par with no transformer like issues). There's really nothing on the LE that's going to make it more fun over long haul...appreciate in value, possibly yes, but fun factor/gameplay I just don't see the LE advantage as being that much. I look at it this way, would MM be worse without trolls? Kind of a wash. Would NGG be that much worse without the spinning disc? Kind of a wash. Would AC/DC LE be that much worse without that extra divertor? Kind of a wash. It also depends on your financial situation as well...would you rather have Avengers, X-Men, and AC/DC pro versions, or just AC/DC LE and X-Men LE? Since they cost the same, I'd rather have the three games. But frankly I only really care about gameplay/rulesets and not about looks and toys really.

I agree spot on if your a pinball player as in rules and so on go the pro if you like toys and bling spend the extra coin.

Exactly - you really can't look at it like "oh those extra parts don't add up to the LE price"....it is what it is. Only 550....I heard 125 of each went overseas - so, that makes only 300 units in the US. No one knows for sure, but the price is likely to creep up as they get scarce, a la Tron LE and AC/DC LEs (which was weird to me since the Premium is the same...but again - it is what it is). Keep in mind it's more than pin-heads who will buy these games. Many Tron LEs were snatched up by video game guys...I imagine lots of X-Men LEs will be snatched up by hardcore comic book fans. I don't think these types of collectors put games back out into the market as quickly as pinball collectors, who often mix things up to buy new games.

The Pro looks totally respectable - if the LE features aren't knockin' your socks off, go for Pro! However ....if you're kinda thinkin' the LE is the one for you - better grab one now than later, IMO...anyone who passed on Tron LE and wants one now can attest to that.

Go for the LE without question. As others have said, this is the biggest difference in play quality between a pro and a LE ever for Stern . . . and you get the mirrored back glass which I am sure is going to look stunning in person. As others have said in this thread, the comic book collectors are going to zoom in on the LE's of this game (at least many of them) and they are trained to think in terms of exclusivity, which means they will all go for the LE's I would assume.

I think the LE's will go up in price, not down. If you are buying machines thinking of selling them later, the LE is the way to go. If you are buying machines to play, the LE's got many many more features and presumably will look better in person. However you look at it, the LE wins.

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Unless you're not made of money. . I'm sure that the LE will increase more than the pro, but it's still over 6k in one game...and it's hard for me to believe that xmen pro + something like shadow will be less fun than xmen Le.

LE all the way especially if at pre picture prices!

That is a reasonable point. That does assume though that space is not an issue and a person can just as easily add two machines as one machine. If space is an issue the purchaser has to evaluate if the Shadow is a game he wants to have taking up a slot.

Different view points; I totally see what you are saying though and agree . . . if space wasn't an issue I'd probably pick two games too.

Agreed. If you have the cash now, get the LE without a second thought. The LE will only appreciate in value for the reasons mentioned. Namely, the big distinction in gameplay features between LE and Pro and the low production number of the LE (only around 300 in the US, 550 total). I'm sure a significant number of these will also be going to Marvel Comics fans and will disappear from the available pinball community supply. I'm not sure what the price will be for this game a year from now, but I'm fairly confident you won't be losing money on it if you decide to sell later.

I look forward to playing PRO, LE not so much but they look neat.

So you look forward to playing the Pro and NOT the LE? Huh? What would be so bad about the LE that you wouldn't look forward to playing one?

I tend to agree, but my big question is how does the Magneto multiball start on the Pro? The things release and all four balls or whatever go STDM drain? LOL. Without the spinner it doesn't make sense to me.

Personally....I don't like the ice ramp. It's a novel idea, but uses are very limited and shooting one ramp over and over and over......isn't that what people were bitching about with Transformers? That's a throwaway mode if I've ever seen it. It wasn't fun on Avatar either.

Spinner - Nice, but really only shines with the magnetic lock multiball start due to the low speed they chose to use to calm it down a bit.

NC - Hard to get, hard to see....needs code update to be worth anything at all IMO. If it's just as rare as Daft Punk multiball, we shouldn't be paying huge bucks for it.

From some of the Comicon vids, it appears the balls are released from the lock and gather on the magnet. Then the magnet releases and pulses again to fling them.

Go LE for sure. That spinning disk with the extra magnet in the middle of it is awesome when combined with the magnet in front of Wolverine. I've seen my ball do some totally insane things this weekend when both magnets came into play. I have not yet had the nighcrawlers pop up, but its gonna be fun when it happens.
I was afraid the ice ramp would get in the way too, but it really does'nt. You can see thru the holes in it pretty good, and once you learn the locations of your shots on the playfield it makes it even less of an issue.
And the quality of the playfield is the best they've ever had. Its buried in clearcoat and smooth as glass. Stern finally stepped up their game quality. The only issue mine has is the 3rd flipper not working separately from the lower flipper, but I assume that is just a leaf switch adjustment on the flipper button. If not, they will send me some parts on warranty.
I'd say go with the LE. I gambled on the TRON LE and it worked out, and I'd predict that this game will be just as popular. Its gonna be hard to lose money in the long run on this one if you can get the early pricing and save some money on shipping somehow.

Is anyone getting a PRO? I have the option of maybe gettting a PRO or a lesser game. Not enough funds to get the LE. I heard they will be made in August after the LEs, is that the same thing you're hearing?

I am getting a pro for sure. Oh yes. It will be mine.... It will be mine!

Cool. I'm okay with that.

Considering a Pro. LE is just so much extra cash.

Spinner. Pro seemed to throw the ball around even faster than the spinner.

Moving ramp. Take it or leave it.

Night crawlers - cool, but not essential.

LED color change lighting - fantastic and prefer it by a mile to the Pro. Not sure how to get Pro looking similar?

Mirrored backglass - very nice - but Pro artwork very nice.

Reasons for both - still not sure.

If the flipper works then there won't be parts needed. Lift the playfield and examine how the leaf switches work. The right side should have a double switch. Both blades are probably making contact at the exact same time. You can very slightly and very gently bend the second blade do it takes a bit more travel to trigger your second flipper. But be careful as its easy to go too far and hard to solve that without removing the whole switch and spending several minutes in bend adjustments.

IMO if you can afford the LE the money difference will be there if you resell it unlike AcDc there is no premium edition so just that 300 units in the US if it becomes a hot item you will have a hard time finding a LE after a while now you have the option but maybe not much longer and you will have to tell yourself the pro was what you wanted all along.

I'd get the LE if you don't like it sell it and get avengers probably won't loose much if any money on resale

I have to disagree here...I think that AC/DC has a bigger disparity. X-men second. I can write a list if you want

If you can afford the LE right now I think its the best bet..why? Because it will most likely increase in value and you could always sell it and get a pro down the line if you find the pro meets your needs and make a few $$ if not you will have no regrets!

If you can't buy now then from the limited video I have seen and without playing I think the PRO will still be great and despite a fairly significant difference you won't miss out on what makes the game great which is lots of shots, cool modes, and nice dots and x-men callouts. The magnetic action seems to trump what the spinner does anyhow gameplay wise its the ramp and nightcrawlers.

I wonder what it means once everyone starts buying a game or an edition because it will "appreciate in value" ... Some "investments" have worked out magnificently (MM) -- in the past -- but consider this: Many people also believe the LE's represent a very large portion of all of Sterns manufacturing, so what's "limited" mean if a run is 50% LE and 50% Pro? On the forums you see word of 1 Pro purchase for every 10 LE purchase, and since hardly any new Sterns make it into public venues in the states, I wonder if a small X-Men pro production run will make it look like the Costco version of TDK or IM in comparison to the many LE's out there (in relative terms).

That being said, I think the Pro looks great, and will be as acceptable as the ACDC Pro, which I would have no problem owning, however I'd still opt for the Premium because of the mechanical features. Just consider that X-Men, like ACDC, was designed as a Premium/LE from the outset. If there was no ACDC Premium/LE you wouldn't know what you were missing with the Pro model, but reality is more often than not ACDC buyers have been choosing the full featured models.

Consider that the pre-order price for the ACDC LE was as much as a Premium is now, and the LE's have oddly enough appreciated significantly in value, even with Premiums available... so the collector mentality still rules over all other logic. Don't play the "investment" game with collectibles, just buy what you think has the better "fun" value for you.

I really wish they would have embraced their Premium strategy now. There are people out here that want all the gameplay, but don't want to play Jr. Stock Analyst or Blingy Pin Collector Pissing Match.

Did AC/DC Premium do poorly or something? I played one this last weekend and thought it was the best of both worlds (and would buy one if my money was right for it). It had all the gameplay in a normal package, while letting the LE guys have their limited edition wankery.

They designed this before they came up with the Premium concept and then AC/DC came out first. That seems why Borg had so long to develop this pin but also why no Premium. From now on expect Premium titles.......I would guess

And a shame really as would have been in for Premium X-men.

Yup...that did it! Thanks much

I'm keeping mine in the box and flipping it for $8500 in a few months. Going to eat steaks every day for months on this. LMFAO.

Making less than 2k on a game you will wish you kept does not make sense.

Hear is my 2 cents

Avengers is being done by Gomez. Transformers LE was not a hit. Its a great game though the LE's are now selling way below purchase price.

Most of Gomez games play the same or real similiar

Sopranos, Transformers, LOTR, Batman, Playboy

I decided to go with the X-men LE and will wait on the Avengers. If I get Avengers it will be a pro or premium as I am fed up with Sterns LE versions with X-men by not making a premium.

I will certainly wait until it is released as I do not want another situation as with Transformers and the inevitable loss of $$

Again check xmission you guys want a great game for $5100 they are selling Transformers LE autobot and decepticon at $5100.00 for HUO with very low plays

Wow, so you make 2k every time you sell a game? Can I borrow some money for X-Men LE Magneto from ya? Or a tron pro? I promise I won't sell them until I make at least 3 grand...

I tried selling my Gottlieb Top Card last night for 2350, but the guy was kind of sly and talked me down 2000 bucks...

Why do you say that? Since ACDC Premium is going for the same price the LE pre-order, just X-Men LE at pre-order price as the Premium you would have bought (with a higher resale value).

Lol! I sold my last game for what I Paid and one for less. Just saying selling this LE to make 2k may not be worth the price of a b list table in a year Compared to having one. How many folks would gladly pay 2k over original price for A Tron LE. Chasing a few dollars can lose a really great game

This is a really interesting hobby in that its one that we all expect to it cost us zero, or even more so, make us money. Most mainstream hobbies (Boats, golf, RVs, cars ect.) you take a good beating on financially in taxes, depreciation, and maintenance but, the gain is the joy you get from the hobby itself.

With pins the biggest divide I see between us is the the bickering over valuations and the concern that we may not be able to sell the pin for more than we paid for it. Its a cool thing that these gain value in some cases but, also is becoming the ugly side of this hobby. The LE thing just makes matter worse since we have this debate on new games as well. Now we have to worry that if we don't pre-order then we wont be able to afford it later.

I'm also not convinced that all LEs will go up in value just because Tron did. Maybe, then again maybe not, I doubt I'll ever purchase an X-men so there is little concern for me at least in this title. I'm hoping Stern goes to a Premium version moving forward.

I think though from a logistic standpoint Xmen LE stands a very good chance to turn into a hard to purchase game. The numbers alone dictate this i think. The pro will surely rise to meet tron pro. This is nice in some terms for those that have them early BUT, the whole make buck thing is tearing this hobby apart. 2-5 years ago we all "KNEW" who the flippers where in the Hobby and local areas. Now it seems greed is driving the hobby almost into a beanie baby cabbage patch kid situation.

I didn't think you were the type of guy to collect those, Ben.. Ya old softie..