You can put washers between the switch and the plastic bracket before screwing the switch into the bracket. This may space it out A bit better.

I got it working. I tried several things but still did not have enough space. I filed the groove in the back of the bracket down a couple of mm and now it's working great.

On the original one, I think the guy who made the file did that because our switches were set back a bit. To be honest, that part could probably be brought in a bit to align with the back where you insert the screws. Hard to say as I have not seen the final switch that Mezelmods includes. I am willing to offer any help I can. I really feel this makes the game play better. Just be sure to give it the pop bumper test (should not trigger when pop is activated).

Jeremy

This is definitely suggested. It's a little trial and error. You can get it to stay up with just the newton ball installed an probably a single post to test the spacing.

Is there any substantial savings to not purchasing the kit and instead just buying the bracket? I plan on adding the mod to my LE and just purchased the resin bust Wolverine figure that others have mentioned here.

The install was extremely easy. Getting the switch right was the only pain. Mine would not adjust to were the switch was open no matter what I did to the switch because it fit so snug. I tried several times will no luck. After filing the back down it now works great. No trouble with the pops registering hits and any solid hit to the ball registers every time. The game play is much better with this mod. The beast, left nightcrawler, and Xavier shots are a lot more open but the wolverine shot is a lot smaller.

What is everyone using to attach the figures to the top mounting bracket? I'm going to pick out a couple to try today on amazon.

Never mind, found what to use to attach a figure. I just need to learn how to read apparently

Anyone else care to share pics of their setup? Love to see the changes people have made if any. Also hoping to see more videos.

has any pro owners ever installed this mod ?

I was the one who helped make this part and own a Pro. It works great and was actually made to work with both machines.

So what are people using?

He quoted it. Quake putty. Simple and you don't need much.

Thank you!

I wanted to post a note to thank you all the guys for the awesome work / R&D that you put in to make the newton ball kit for Xmen.

I ordered it a couple weeks ago from Mezelmods and got it installed last week. Wow. What a difference it makes. I really liked the game before, but I was always annoyed by the Wolverine toy. It was too big and affected both the Xavier and Beast shots in ways that seemed so stupid.

And moreover, on my game, I could never get the switch just right. It either would be too far apart and not register 1/2 of the solid hits, or be so sensitive that BACKWARDS hits coming around from Phoenix to Beast would trigger a Wolvie hit. It annoyed me so much that I had stopped playing the game much. Still loved the code and most of the shots, but when one flaw sticks out for me I get frustrated.

Now the Beast (and Gambit) and Xavier shots are so makeable, and smooth. Wolvie is a tad harder to hit - not by much as any reasonably aimed shot will nail it - but just enough to stop the "free" Wolvie hits which incessantly started his multiball (often when I didn't want it to) or gave too easy combos. Right now I am back in love with the game. Great call outs, music, deep and fun rules, awesome lighting.

Overall, the install had a few snags to it (my game is an LE). It is not quite as easy as the instructions make it out to be. I had to cut the wires for the wolverine light (the light that is supposed to go off in his head but never does). I couldn't take the old mechanism off without cutting these wires. Second, there was an odd cross brace piece under the Wolverine that forced me to disassemble most of the Wolvie mech under the playfield (it would not pull up otherwise). In short, I could not just take the 4 screws out and then pull the whole mechanism out. Third, I had to solder the wires to the new switch. Fourth, as others have noted, the new switch was a bit too tight. But with some sanding and bending, everything seems to be working out perfect. The point is, this is not a basic "plug and play" mod - there is a bit of work that is needed. Nothing that any average pin owner should not be used to. Overall, it took me about 1 hour to get things all set up. The beauty is that now, I have my game exactly how I want it to play.

I know you guys did this work as a labour of love, not for money. For that you guys deserve a lot of credit. You have designed something that makes my game exactly the way I wanted it to play, and most importantly made it very fun again to me - what pin should be all about.

he comes apart nice with just a hack saw. the main issue you will have is how brittle he is, and will not survive many ball hits.

Anyone take pictures of their installs? I am curious to see what people came up with? I have noticed people adding a washer UNDER the newton ball to raise it up slightly. Anyone else do this?

i did this more to distribute the force when tightening the ball down. my first thought was how much abuse the bracket would take and if it would hold up over time. I also have installed #8 longer posts instead of the provided #6 posts, drilled out the back of the bracket and tightened everything down with washers and nylon lock nuts. I didn't like that the thought was to thread the posts that were smaller than the wood hole just into a plastic bracket and expect it to hold up over time? i guess i'm a pessimist.

The kit is awesome and how i have it set up (dorked around with the leaves of the switch) it's just as sensitive as the original version, but smaller so you can shoot beast and xavier with a reasonable shot and not get goal tended.

-c

I absolutely love it. Thank you to Mezelmods and the guys that helped develop this. Thanks to you guys I've fallen in love with the machine again. I never hated big Wolvie, but it was definitely an annoyance and probably contributed to me getting lukewarm on the game for awhile. Now it is back at the top of my favorites list.

The newton ball is just so damn satisfying to hit..more than Wolverine ever was. Not to mention the biggest issue that I had is now gone. On my machine any time Magneto would start with all 4 balls, unless they were grouped just perfectly, they would hit Wolverine with every rotation completely ruining the effect. Now no matter how they lump together, they spin beautifully. Add to that the Beast shot which now flows perfectly plus Xavier being a bit more open (I still suck at this shot, LOL), and the game plays how it should have all along.

My only complaint is that I wish the playfield artwork would match in better. There is bare wood showing in an odd shape now without the big Wolverine to cover it. I really hope someone makes a nice cover-up decal someday. But really that's a minor complaint in the grand scheme of things.

I currently have a super cheap small figure on mine. I hope to find something nicer soon, but for now it is fine. I thought the difference in scale between him and Magneto would bother me, but it really doesn't. If anything the small Wolverine looks better overall and makes it less cluttered feeling. I look at it as Magneto looming over the machine, much like the villain usually does on a movie poster or something like that.

Again, thank you so very much to Mezelmods and everyone else behind this mod. I never would have imagined that this one mod could make such a huge difference in my enjoyment of the game...especially since I never hated Wolverine like some people did!

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That looks sick well played!!! I rotated the pics for ya.

Thanks Dude! Wait until you see what I did to Magneto! More pics to follow.

That is sweet, I have seen allot done and this by far looks the best! I would buy it.

First off, a big thanks to all that posted pics of their Newton Balled X-Men. I really am glad I could help make this machine better for those of you that had the same problems with it that I did. Some of the ideas people have shown are great (including the Wolverine with light-up eyes).

Does anyone know of someone that can make decals and has a graphic background? I do agree that a decal would complete the package, but you would have to make two for the different cut-out areas (Pro & LE); however, they could share the same art. If someone can remember to take a picture (or even better, a scan) of the area when they have their Wolverine figure out along with measurements of the area, that may help this get going. At the very least, you could make an all blue (matching the playfield) decal that would go around the cut-outs. It may only need to expand the Gambit throwing card art slightly and maybe the electrical lines coming from the Magneto magnet. Anyone up for the task?

Awesome work PiperPinball
cannot wait to see Magneto

Just curious if there are any owners in my area who have the mod that I can see it and try it out?

Mid-Maryland

Thanks.

Just wanted to chime in and say that you should go for this kit. It really does change the game in very positive ways. If you don't like it, you can reverse the installation and sell your kit to someone else (but I doubt you will.)

Magneto done!

His blue LED eyes are not this bright.

Now onto Cyclops!

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After my Wolverine finally broke I decided to try this mod.
So far I am preferring it to the Mezel belt mod.
It opens up the Beast shot and doesn't interfere with the Magneto multiball start.
I altered broken Wolvie by cutting off the belt and made a L shaped bracket to keep him on the newton mod.
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that looks good!

If I ever go back to the large figures, I may have to cut the belt off mine too. Nice work!

Can you take a picture of where and how you mounted the L-bracket and the size?

Cool. That's what I was going to do too ... Just haven't got around to it.

Hey, it's only been a year. Good things take time.

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I was thinking of something like this too but I didn't want to cut up my Wolvie. He isn't broken yet.

I used some scrap .025" or almost 1/32" aluminum cut from a sheet and bent it to fit just above the mod to allow him to bobble a little.
Luckily I had some of the flat left on his back to mount it using #6 screws.
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Nice work!

What can I safely hook a light up to?
Will patching it to the newton switch work without problem?

Wolverine originally had a light in his head but it never turns on except in test mode.

Keep the original figure and use the captive ball. Eureka!

Hey hey everyone! Just got my Newton kit today, and I'm having...issues.

The bracket plastic was VERY tight for me to get into place. I had to hammer it in to get it flush. With the switch attached to it, I had almost no wiggle room to fit everything in. Once I installed everything, sure enough, wolvie wasn't registering any hits at all, and no matter how I moved or fiddled with the switch, nothing registered.

Also, it said in the instructions to use the old wolvie switch in the ew bracket, so I did an the old wolvie switch was taller than the plastic cover...anyone else have this issue?

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The flasher in the Wolverine insert goes off when you hit him. You could reroute those wires into the head with a flasher LED using the flat flex head.

The instructions need to be updated to use the new switch. I don't think the Wolverine switch works. I will let someone who bought the package answer though.

The newton kit should have included a new switch to use if recently purchased.

Sounds like a plan!
Hopefully I have some 12v led strips.

Switched them out. Same result. There's not even enough room to create a gap for the leafs in either switch configuration. Even when I part and contact them manually during gameplay, nothing happens. Wires are connected underneath play field and everything....I don't know what the issue is here, but this kit is getting pretty beat up from me having to take everything out and reinstall it so many times.

Let's see where we are:

Can you provide pics of how it looks below playfield? I think someone said they closed the gap and had it work so it registered when it opened instead of closing. I assume after you soldered the connections to the new points, you remembered to hookup the connector under the playfield? I really want to see what we are working with here as I haven't heard of any problems like this before.