What is the going rate on a Wrestlemania Pro nowadays? I'm looking to join the club and I think I have one lined up.

Joined the Wrestlemania club this weekend and I couldn't be happier. Got a game that looks and plays brand new for a sweet price and it was within driving distance. It was hardly played and the code was never even updated on it. I am super excited to get to work on this one and win that championship. My first decision with the game is which translite to install? What do you guys think?

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I won the Divas one in the King of the Ring event that Stern and the WWE put on. I think the only other way you could get one is if you bought a brand new WrestleMania during a certain limited time period. The translite has a different feel to it it's textured instead of glassy and smooth. I've never seen a translate like that before.

Are you planning ahead for Waunapinball in WI in a couple of weeks?

High scores? Tag Team multiball. You have to be out of a match, then hit both green standups which lights Tag Team on the left side mini orbit shot. Every time you play it, it requires more shots to start it again, but if you are not in a match you can also plunge advance tag team on the skill shot to award you a shot. If you are one shot away from Tag Team multiball, you can actually plunge that skill shot and start multiball right away.

Thought you guys would appreciate this. This happened last night when I was killing it ball 1. The game can't even change the skill shot indicator lights fast enough, it just goes back and forth between two of them instead of the four.

Is there a rule sheet for the new code for this game? If not, we should get one together as a group. I feel like I have a decent grasp on many things in the game, but then others are more of a mystery to me. I haven't tried with the glass off, but anyone know how to complete Tag Team Championship and/or what qualifies Royal Rumble and how to beat that? I have qualified and played both to the point of them blinking, but I can't beat either of them like the US Championship to light them solid, at least partially I think because I don't know what I am really supposed to be doing.

So you can start Royal Rumble without winning the Tag Team Championship then? I played both, but both were still blinking so I didn't beat either. You can't play Tag Team Championship without winning the US Championship can you? What is the point of the Money in the Bank? 3 normal skills shots collect it or one super skill shot where it goes up and comes back down the ladder without entering the ring, but what does collecting it do for you?

Starting to figure things out more. You can definitely start Tag Team Championship first. I won that before I even started the US Championship. Seems like Royal Rumble is always qualified after starting Tag Team Championship. I won US and Tag Team and started IC Championship, but didn't beat it. Not sure again what to do in IC mode besides shooting any lit shots I see. Anyone know how to restart IC? Is it sets of drops like US? Also, do you have to get another 3 money in the bank shots skill shots to replay a failed championship or is it lit again when you qualify that match again?

For me, it seems that when I start Tag Team Championship, it qualifies Royal Rumble and all you need is a ramp shot when you are out of Tag Team to start it. For IC I believe you need to complete Tag Team to qualify it.

Super skill shot is to plunge all the way up the ladder when the light is on Money in the Bank, but not have it go into the ring and instead come back down the ladder. You get awarded Money in the Bank right away instead of it taking 3 skill shots. If you don't hit the switch and come back down, you can then hit a shot on the playfield for 1 million instead.

That could be it. I usually have started US before Tag Team so it just seemed like Tag Team was the key.

Ultimate Warrior animation is there when you light extra ball.

I've never messed with pinball browser before. Any other cool, unused stuff there currently?

Pro has the double trouble girls when you collect EB. When you light EB, Warrior comes up on the screen and raises his hands and grunts.

Makes sense that it is Kane. I guess I never could look up enough to tell the difference. From a quick glance my mind went right to Ultimate Warrior.

It's definitely beatable on the Pro, but not easy. The right gate is always open during it like on the LE, but the left gate is closed since it doesn't have an open feature on the Pro. Have to go up the right side everytime. Got close to beating it tonight and then almost made my way back to it, but fell just short.

On the Pro you play as Triple H, Rock, John Cena or Daniel Bryan

Opponents are Sheamus, Big show, Roman Reigns, Kane, Dean Ambrose, Randy Orton, Bray Wyatt, Seth Rollins, Miz, Dolph Ziggler, Cesaro and I think Brock Lesnar is the Championship opponent.

I just put the speaker light kit on my WrestleMania and man does it look good. Really happy with this purchase it looks like it should have been there from the start. I just left it white for now to match the WWE logo, but does anyone know if you can program these to rotate certain colors like red, white and blue in this case instead the default red, blue and green rotation?

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http://www.speakerlightkits.com/Acrylic-Designs.html

They have the title belt design too, which I also have, but I like the look of the logo better for the Pro.

Just got finished installed Titan colored rubbers, the upgraded GI kit, a real Money in the Bank briefcase and the real ladder. What a difference just the briefcase and the ladder make. Still got to install the two wrestlers up top by the ring and finish the colored rubber kit on the ring. Not sure how to get at those top rubbers yet under the roll overs in the ring. Is it a pain to remove that top rollover plastic to get at those? Game really shines now though. Looks so good.

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Not sure if it was mentioned before in the updates/fixes thread, but something should be done with Combos too. I totally forgot that there is a combo champ since it doesn't show it in the high scores or attract mode, but if you get over 15 you can enter your initials for it. It does have a nice Combo graphic callout during the game, but some visible point award for the combo or number of combos you are building to for an award would make them serve more of a purpose. As it sits right now, I know I am combo champ on my Wrestlemania with 23 combos, but I couldn't tell you what any of those combos were worth or if they are even worth shooting for at all.

There isn't. I suggested we should create one as a group because the rules are very confusing and even the instruction cards are not correct.

Just about finished updating my Wrestlemania Pro. Normally I am not a big mod guy, but this game is just screaming for certain things to be done and they look factory, which is what I like in a mod. Only thing left to do is add the side art blades as soon as I get a few bucks that I am waiting on and pick up the lollipop rails at the Midwest Gaming Classic in a month. So far I have added...

WWE Divas signed translite
Stern upgraded GI kit
Titan competition colored rubbers (Red, white, blue ring ropes and color matched everywhere else)
Colored blue/red ring target decals
Real Money in the Bank briefcase
Mezel Mods real ladder
Speaker Lights Kit
WWE acrylic speaker logo
The Rock and John Cena figure plastics by the ring (like the LE)

I gave her a good cleaning while I was doing all that, eventhough it didn't really need it. It only had 300 plays total when I got it. Really liking this game, but man it is hard to go for the WWE Championship. I won the Tag Team Championship, won the US Championship, started the IC Championship but didn't win it. So I went and won the US and Tag Team Championships again thinking that would re-qualify the IC Championship but it didn't, so I don't know how to get back into it at this point.

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Since I used the Divas translite in the game and I had won a Pro translite during the Wrestlemania Launch Party way back when, I now had two Pro translites. I was always going to keep the original with the game, but I wasn't sure what to do with the other one. Thought about selling it, but then I found this brand new blue frame at Goodwill for $3.00. I had an oversized gray matte from another framing project from a year ago and thought they looked perfect together. I cut down the oversized matte so it would fit this frame and I love the results. Perfect gameroom decor. Now I just need to find more wall space to put all this cool stuff on.

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Was it qualified again right after you beat Tag Team for the 2nd time or did you have to get Money in the Bank? Normally it starts right after the second title match on a ramp shot on the Pro without needing anything else.

Ramp shot. The first time it is qualified as soon as you start the second title match. After going through US and Tag Team again though, it wasn't qualified right away like before. I must have missed something.

I bought mine on eBay. It was less than $10 shipped.

Totally agree. Always thought that was weird. For the longest time I didn't realize the two were the same, the blinking belt is the only thing that made me take another look at it. The rule card says to start Royal Rumble you need to win 3 standard matches and then you are supposed to shoot the balls out the side of the ring in that mode...neither of which are true. I always thought it was weird that it was qualified as soon as you do two championship matches too. Right when you are done with the other championship match, you just shoot it up the ramp and start IC/Royal Rumble immediately. It should be a standalone like a mini wizard mode for beating 2 championship matches and getting halfway to completing the game. They need to make match progress possible in Referee MB again too. Maybe not be able to pin your opponent as the ref is down, but you should be able to beat the hell out of him so all your ring hits during that MB should increase your pin jackpot for at least that match. That would help make Ref. MB worth shooting for at least a little bit.

I didn't know there was any real hope for another code update. That would be so great if they did release one. Before Sunday would be the icing on the cake, I would take one any time in the foreseeable future.

That's really sad if true. Code polishing aside, the game shouldn't be broken from a functional standpoint and it is on the LE. A little work could take this game so far. The wheel doesn't need to be reinvented here, it just needs to be aligned correctly.

Phbooms, it didn't take you long to list your LE after getting that news. It's totally understandable, but so unfortunate that the lack of attention to detail here drives fans of the game to sell.

I am really liking how my Wrestlemania is shaping up cosmetically. Game was in perfect condition when I bought it and the enhancements I added just take it over the top to where it should have been originally. I added the Stern art blades last night and I have to say I am impressed. I have had art blades from other companies before and in comparison the quality of the Stern ones is night and day better. It is a much thicker, sturdier material that you don't have to constantly worry about snagging every time you raise and lower the playfield like you do with other brands and despite the thicker material they installed super easily and I have no issues raising or lowering the playfield since . They really tie the game together nicely by matching the backboard art perfectly. So to this point I have added the following and it all looks factory to me which is important in a mod in my opinion.

*Divas translite
*Titan colored competition rubbers (color matched to areas)
*Titan red, white and blue ring rope rubbers in ring and below slings
*Titan red competition flipper rubbers
*Red, white and blue ring target decal kit to match the rubbers
*The Rock and John Cena plastic figures outside the ring to match the LE
*Speaker light kit w/ the WWE acrylic logo
*Real money in the bank briefcase
*Mezel mods real ladder
*Official Stern Pinball art blades

I am going to buy a set of the lollipop rails to protect from flipper wear and damage, plus I want to find/make a set of custom cards for this game. I like the idea of doing something with a vintage Wrestlemania ticket style, so I might try taking that on myself, otherwise I think I am going to just keep enjoying it and try to win that elusive World Championship Belt.

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This is good to know. I had no idea honestly, the game doesn't tell you at all.

I think the Pro looks really nice. The side blades are very nice. I would rather have classic wrestlers because that's what I know and grew up with, but I am super happy with my Pro.

Get that plastic Money in the Bank case off there. The real one looks so much better, especially with the real ladder. Your cards look excellent by the way. Thanks again for making them available.

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I know you have an LE so it isn't something you would be focused on, but I would love to have a Trinitron mod for the Pro. Since the screen isn't really interactive with the game (outside of the character select) and I don't believe the playfield has any modifications for it vs. the Pro I wouldn't think it would be super difficult to do. Alas, I am not very handy when it comes to such things, but I think the screen fits perfectly and looks great in the game, I just wish it did more. Any enterprising / handy Wrestlemania fans have any interest?

Fudge...one last pin shot away from beating intercontinental champion on Wrestlemania. I haven't done it yet. Thought for sure this would be the time when I got 3 pins right out of the gate in the ring. Starting picking off shots and finally got my last mini right orbit shot to clear them all. Just had the last damn ring pin shot. Hit it up there multiple times and it just wouldn't fall. For some reason my game is really hard to pin in. On other Wrestlemanias I can usually time it and finesse it waiting for the right bounce, but mine almost seems like blind luck most of the time. Oh well I guess, I know I am going to get through it at some point.

This is so not intuitive. I didn't understand it for a long time, that and how the MITB shots worked. If you plunge all the way up the ladder and hit the switch without going over to the ring and have the ball come back down the ladder on the plunge, you get all 3 Money in the Bank skill shots for a Championship match. Everytime you win a match you get 1 Money in the Bank credit towards a Championship match too. 3 Money in the Bank shots start a Championship match. I also found out the hard the hard way that the do not bank, so if you have Championship match lit from 3 MITB shots, then have the opportunity to plunge again and get the super skill shot for 3 MITB shots, you won't have those after you play your Championship match.

No idea about the Undertaker and easier skill shots as I have a Pro. I don't believe that is a feature of his though, probably just a coincidence.

Long shot, but does anyone have a left sling plastic for Wrestlemania LE that they don't need? I have two right LE slings and some other stuff like extra figure plastics, other plastics and wham arm decals I could trade. Let me know. Thanks.

Special just gives you a free game. In tournament mode I don't believe special awards points like an extra ball would.

15+ in one game. I'm not sure it counts them correctly though since it doesn't even show the combo champ score board in attract mode. You can only see it if you beat it. I like the call out for combos in the game, but I wish it would show a score value for them or give you a running count of how many you have. I have top with 16 combos on my game and I have put up over 1.3 billion. Seems like I should have had more to me, but who knows for sure.

I was 1 pin away. Just needed that final pin in RR to win that title. Not sure what you have to do next (if anything) to qualify the Heavyweight Title. I haven't heard of anyone who has gotten there without taking the glass off.

I'm very happy with my Pro. I like the classic wrestlers better as I don't really follow current wrestling, but game wise the Pro is just fine with me. The game is so difficult to complete, when you miss out on the RR title, you have to back through all the title matches to try again and there isn't any progress save from the first time. I'll get through it one day, I hope I have a live streaming setup when I do too.

Yeah, normally it is 3 money in the bank shots, but RR doesn't require anything to start it, just that you play Intercontinental and Tag Team Championships. You can get MITB shots from the skill shot (1 MITB), Super Skill Shot (3 MITB) or you get one for each opponent you beat as well, which is why you need all the EBs and outlane saves available so you get more plunges at those.

Is there an updated version of the big fixes and nice to have code changes anywhere that everyone was brainstorming on? I was talking with Zach the other day and I brought up the issues in Wrestlemania. Now that he is in at Stern, he said if I can get him a list, he will see what he can do to get those things addressed but of course couldn't promise anything. I think it's worth a shot to at least get the bugs fixed.

Agreed. Combo champ should be shown in attract mode since it is there in the code already anyway and a point value attached to them would be nice. Right now we get COMBO on the DMD, but I couldn't tell you what, if anything, they are worth. I also think it should have number of MITB shots, combos and set of drops to start the next match in the instant info.

For code improvements, I think the jackpot shot after showboating in the ring should be random. Right now it is always the EB shot and sometimes you can't even get the ball down to the flipper as the timer keeps running as soon as you exit the ring. Something should be done with fan level too. When you aren't in a match and you hit a bunch of targets in the ring then get a 20k fan level point award, that's pretty worthless. There needs to be better usage of the ring if the ball goes in there when you aren't in a match.

Royal Rumble as it's own mode should happen for sure, it would be nice if they could do something like they originally had planned on the rules card with shooting balls out the side exits of the ring. Regardless, RRMB needs to remember progression, otherwise it's extremely difficult and even way more difficult than the the old Optimus Prime MB Super Jackpot blocker in TF.

With Ref. Multiball, in addition to jackpots, it would be nice if you could use that mode to beat the crap out of your current opponent in the ring to increase the pin jackpot for that match. Even letting you hit the outside the ring shots to multiplier your pin jackpot value by 2x or 3x in that mode would be good too.

I'll keep thinking. What else?

Here is the list of bug fixes and update suggestions I sent over to Zach at Stern. Hopefully he can help get some of these things implemented to lift the game to where it should be...

Bug Fixes / Easy Updates:
Combo Champion doesn't display ever. There is a high score table for it that you enter your initials in if you beat 15 combos, but it never displays in attract mode or during the game.

Combos during the game never have a value associated to them. When you get one, it should show you a value like combos on X-Men for instance. I have no idea if combos are valuable or worthwhile honestly.

Tag Team Multiball score totals are never displayed correctly. It often tells you that you got more points in the MB than you have for a total score.

In addition to Combo Champion in the high score table displaying, there should also be separate high scores for each wrestler like the houses in Game of Thrones since each wrestler gives you a distinct advantage like the houses in GOT.

During Royal Rumble, the controlled gates at the top are always open (right on the pro, both on the LE). These need be closed so the balls go into the ring to get the 5 pins you need to complete the round.

Royal Rumble starts with Intercontinental Championship match. As soon as you start the IC match and hit a ramp to go up top to try to pin your opponent, Royal Rumble starts on top of it. Royal Rumble is totally different so it should be it's own mode like it describes on the rule card. Maybe so many matches won starts Royal Rumble for instance.

Instant info should have number of current Money In The Bank shots (there is no way to know during gameplay otherwise), number of combos, current bonus amount and maybe even next pop bumper hits award.

When you complete showboating, it lights a jackpot award at the tag team start shot everytime. The timer for this should be stopped until the ball exits the ring because often it will time out without you even getting a shot at it. Also, the shot that is lit for the jackpot should be random or maybe even roaming for some variety.

Pop bumper awards text should be bigger and stay visible longer. Currently it is displayed so quickly and the text is so small, it is hard to see what was awarded and what is next even if you are staring right at it...which of course you never can do.

Code Update Ideas:
Intercontinental Championship match should have a an additional goal than the US Champ match. Maybe you have to shoot the outside the ring shots to chase your opponent down outside the ring before pinning him or have him gain back his health if you exit the ring or something. Just something to make it distinct from the US match.

If you have already won title and you start another match for that belt, it should say something about "Defend The Title" and be worth more points since you are the champion already. Right now it's just another match and you can play the championship matches again if you fail on Royal Rumble. You should just have to defend your title so many times to get back to IC or RR in order to try to fight for the Heavyweight Championship.

Referee Multiball needs to be tweaked. With the small jackpot values and small super jackpot value, it isn't worth shooting for as it sits. Maybe a way to earn cheats or something during the MB for a regular match similar to a VIP pass called a cheat, manager assist or something, since the ref is out at this point anyway. It could award a SJP and a cheat when you shoot all the shots and then the pin scoop. Since there is no action button, maybe using the start button to use the award or have your wrestler automatically do a cheap shot for more points during the next match if you have earned the award. Could be similar to earning Deadpool in X-Men for instance.

Action in the ring when a match isn't going needs to mean something. Right now you can hit lit stand ups and if you complete them you get 25,000 fan bonus points which is pretty worthless. You can stay up there for minutes and maybe get 1 million points. Maybe use the ring when you are not in a match to train your wrestler or pump up the crowd for the next match. Then when you get into a match you get bonuses based on how pumped up the crowd is or how much you trained for the fight. Right now I just double flip to deactivate the ring when I am out of a match and let the ball drain out, which seems like a missed opportunity.

They did back in 2016. When Zach came on board as Marketing Director I talked with him briefly about it. I said I would compile a list of issues and potential improvements and he said he would see what he can do if I got the list to him. No guarantees by any means, but it's worth a shot. I hope at least the bugs get fixed. I really don't think it would take much to really elevate the game.

I forgot that the skill shot isn't shown on ball 1. I'm so used to knowing which one is which I don't pay attention as much any more.

Condition is king, but on the Pro typically around $3500 and up. LE about $1000 more and up. I keep bugging Zach about a code update. He hasn't said no, but he hasn't said yes. I have faith it will happen at some point.

It's not broken as in the code isn't there. It's there, it's just even harder on the LE than the Pro because both controlled gates up top stay open during Royal Rumble on the LE. The Pro is already very difficult, I've never seen or even heard of anyone legitimately getting to the Championship match.

There's no way a Pro should be $3000. I've never seen one sell that low. Last one that sold here was posted for $3800. $3500 is the sweet spot give or take a few hundred depending on condition and extras.

On the Pro, only the right side gate is controlled. You can still get combos but the ball will never loop all the way around by shooting the right ramp, since the left gate will always be closed up top. I think my combo champ is 35 right now, so it hasn't hurt me. You still get them all the time from the inner loop to ramps or left ramp loops. I would do it if I had an LE. You should just be able to disable the left side controlled gate up top so it never raises and it should play like a Pro then.

If I wanted to sell mine for $3000 I could do it in 30 seconds with a single phone call. I could sell mine for $3500 locally here without much effort at all. 1 sale from 1 random person in CA does not make it a $3000 game, sorry.

Enjoy it. I still have mine. Brock Lesnar is the championship match, but good luck getting there. I've gotten Valinor before but still never gotten to the Championship Match on Wrestlemania.

I've never seen any fluorescent plastic protectors for Wrestlemania.

Just to keep the pressure on a little I've e-mailed Stern's bug report e-mail ([email protected]) about the broken code in Wrestlemania. I would suggest others do as well. Hopefully at a bare minimum, they will address the broken code at some point in the future.

This is what I wrote...

"There are a few major bugs in Wrestlemania that need to be resolved, the code is broken how it sits now.

Primarily, Royal Rumble starts over the Intercontinental Champion match. Once you start the IC match, the first ramp you hit starts Royal Rumble, which it isn't supposed to happen and eliminates the IC match. The IC match should be some version of the current Royal Rumble MB, with just single ball play and only 2 shots required to each lit shot instead of 4. Then the Royal Rumble should be it's own MB and those rules should be similar to the rules for the MB on the instruction card.

Second, in the Royal Rumble MB, the controlled gates at the top of the game stay open (1 on Pro, both on LE). The pin in the ring is required 5 times to finish the MB and it has to be finished to get to the Heavyweight Championship Match, but with those gates open, the ball doesn't go to the ring. It's a problem for the Pro with the one gate open, but it makes the LE essentially impossible with both gates being open for that MB.

Third, many times the Tag Team Multiball Total will report a total for the MB that is higher than your current game score, which of course isn't possible. This was the same issue that happened on Ghostbusters with the Gozar Champion score being shown that was higher than the total game score.

Fourth, there is a Combo Champion high score that you can enter then you get 16 or more Combos in a game, but once you enter your initials, that high score board is never seen again during attract mode or in instant information. The high score chart needs to be made visible.

Finally, Instant info should have number of current Money In The Bank shots (there is no way to know during gameplay otherwise), number of combos, current bonus amount and maybe even next pop bumper hits award."

I also added...

"There are a lot of little things that could be tweaked to take the game to the level it should be, even just small things like adding a high score table for each wrestler, but the above bugs (especially the first 4) really need to be addressed as the game isn't just incomplete with those issues, it is broken as it sits. As a Wrestlemania owner for years now, I really hope you will come through for all the owners and fix the code so the game isn't broken."

I'm hoping we at least get the bug fixes. That shouldn't be a lot of work to make a high score table visible, close control Gates, fix a multi-ball scoring issue that was the exact same issue they had on another game and separate two modes that are already there. I really hope they make the game even better with more code tweaks.

Agreed that they should. No doubt the JT situation hurt the prospects for this Wrestlemania and Ghostbusters too. Ghostbusters was a huge hit, no way they would have taken this long on code, had the JT stuff not happened.

That's what was said about Avengers too. I have hope that someday we will see an Avengers like update that at least fixes the bugs.

It's a bug on the Pro too. As soon as you hit the ramp after starting IC Champ, Royal Rumble starts over it. Finishing Royal Rumble finishes IC and gets you to the Heavyweight Title match, but there is no saved shot progress (and the MB is super hard to get back to anyway) so you need 25 specific shots (4 ramp, left orbit, right orbit, right ramp and pin shots) then another pin shot after that is all done to complete it...all during a single Royal Rumble MB. Good luck. I've done it once with a ball stuck and only needed the final pin shot once to do it legitimately, but that is as close as I have gotten.

I really like the game, it's different...not just the same cookie cutter layout you see game after game nowadays. I would love a code update, but regardless, the bugs need fixing. Royal Rumble stomps on the IC match and plays nothing like the rule card says it should, combo champ never shows ever...unless you beat it and get to enter your initials, Tag Team MB score totals are often more than your total game score, controlled gates never go down for the Royal Rumble making it almost impossible to complete on the LE. Not to mention on the possibilities with just a few rule/mode changes. 160 Pinsiders own the game or know where they can play it on route. Come on Stern, put one of the new junior coders on this to get their feet wet and get this done.

Hello my fellow Wrestlemanians. It's with a heavy heart that I must say that today I have left the club. My Wrestlemania has moved on to new pastures. At least I'll always have my Divas translite and the standard John Cena one I framed to remember it by. So now that my WWE is gone, you all should look out for a massive code update this week that adds new wrestlers, modes and fixes all the lingering issues with the game.

Honestly though, I wasn't really looking to sell it and I will miss it, but it needed to go to make room and $$$ for this...which I never thought I would be picking up. I wish you all good luck in the code update department. I can't really say I have a lot of faith at this point. It just seems like there is so much working against it...JT's game, not a big seller, bad code at launch lead to negative overall impression of the game, etc...but who knows. I hope it happens, the game is a lot of fun and could even be that much better with a few tweaks here and there. Enjoy your WWE's and hopefully one of you guys finally legitimately makes it to the Heavyweight Championship wizard mode.

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I actually have a set of NOS LE sling plastics. I'll shoot you a PM.

Didn't expect to be back in the club anytime soon, especially when I was already 1 game over capacity...but here we are. I just couldn't pass up the deal on this. I never really wanted to leave, so I'm happy to be back.

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Where did you get that shooter rod plate?

I think it's just the intro music for...

The Rock =

Triple H =

John Cena =

Daniel Bryan =

and when you are in a match...

The Main Event Theme song =

when you are in Referee Multiball...

Smackdown Theme song =

I'll have to fire it up to see if there are others, I can't remember off hand.

I did it once but I had a stuck ball so I don't really count that. Legitimately the best I have done is only needing the final pin shot in the saucer to win the Intercontinental Championship. In vintage fashion that shot absolutely closed up. I must have hit it up in the ring 4-5 times trying to get that one last pin, but it didn't happen. They have not fixed the gate issue, which is much worse on an LE as both gates are controlled gates so both stay open. On the Pro, just the one gate stays open.

If I got an LE, I would just end up disabling one of the gates to make it play the same as the Pro. It's beatable with 1 controlled gate that doesn't drop during Royal Rumble. Controllable gates on both sides are not needed anyway.

You *can* beat the LE (just like the Pro), it's just that much more difficult with both gates open so it's harder to get the balls to drop in the ring during Royal Rumble / Intercontinental Championship for those necessary pin shots. Pro just has the one gate open which helps, but the saving grace on both versions is with so many balls on the playfield, you get a lot of weaker shots and ones that collide with others to help get them into the ring without the closed gates. As for art and style, I'm with you, I like the classic 80's-90's wrestlers. I have lots of great memories from that age. I would still get an LE if I could pick one up cheap. I only got another Pro because the price was right, I don't even really have room for it, but I like the game and always did want to pick up another one down the road. I just didn't expect it to be so soon.

The scoring is ok. If you want high scores, really the only way to go is for Tag Team MB all the time still. Most of the time I play for completion, so the scoring doesn't bother me. I wish Ref MB had more meaning, right now it's pretty worthless with a SJP at 2.5 mil. I actually liked Ref MB rules better on the old code. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think this game could be so much better than it is worth a few code tweaks and additions. People have come up with a great list of fixes and hand delivered them to Stern many times now, but I honestly don't think we'll ever get them at this point unfortunately.

They haven't. I asked about it and they said they had someone who was considering working on it, but that's about it.

If you are going to go with purple, you should add this too...

https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/545-9953-09

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They are really nice. I had one for my Ghostbusters...

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*The gate issue is mainly on the LE since it has two controlled gates, the Pro only has the one. The problem this creates is in the Royal Rumble multiball that you need to complete to get to the World Heavyweight Championship, the LE will leave both gates open so shots will travel around and back down instead of falling into the ring. If the gates are open, it's much harder to get those needed ring shots. Royal Rumble is already very hard since you need 25 specific shots (4 ramp, left orbit, right orbit, right ramp and pin shots) then another pin shot after that is all done to complete it. And there is no progress saved, so if you manage to make it back to Royal Rumble in the same game, you start all over.

*Autokick should make it up the ladder. Mine doesn't once in a while, but usually it's good. I try to manually plunge if I remember just to be safe.

*In Tag Team, I usually focus on getting the balls back up to the ring where good things can happen. A 2x booster and an add-a-ball can be awarded by shooting the "Tag" targets again followed by the lit Tag Team EB orbit, so if you are down to two balls or want to really boost your points, that's where it's at. My best game ever was 1.3+ billion and a decent amount of that was 100 million Tag Team MB jackpots.

A short ball save timer is a pop bumper award, so I am sure you started that without realizing it.

You must be missing something. I've never had that happen either. Do you see anything you are missing in these pics?

https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=6215

Probably not, but I would be curious if you actually could. Maybe you could get the blank plate? Best bet might be just getting Hogan's signature on your own and adding it.

Color DMD has not been done yet, but it was being worked on when I asked about it. Who knows when it will be completed. The code is "finished", as it's all there, but it needs some work. For instance, Royal Rumble and the Intercontinental Title start on top of each other, on the LE one of the controlled gates never closes making it really hard to complete things in the ring up top, Ref Multiball as it sits is worthless and there is even a Combo Champion high score that never gets displayed and you wouldn't know existed unless you got 15 or more combos. Even once you get the Combo Champion high score and put in your initials, you'll never seen it in the high scores. At a bare minimum how hard would it be to display that Combo Champ score that is already programmed in and/or have a high score list for each wrestler like they do for houses in Game of Thrones? It's a fun game as it is for me, but it could really be good with just a little polish. Sad to say I wouldn't bet on it ever getting it though.

Ok my Wrestlemania brothers I need some help. Is it easy to get off the upper playfield? I looked in the manual and it didn't look obvious to me. I have a switch that lost a screw that I need to get back in there, but I don't think I can do it without removing something. I circled it in green, this view is with the playfield up, so it is on the right side. It's not the one in the foreground, it's in the background of the green circle. Has anybody tackled something like this before in there game and/or have any suggestions on next steps? Appreciate the help!
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Ok guys. Almost have the game back together. I noticed the two targets underneath the ring have the wires disconnected. The one on the left has one wire disconnected and the one on the right it looks like the metal tab is broken and it has three wires disconnected. Does anybody have any pictures on how these are supposed to be wired up? I want to make sure I get it right.

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Thank you!