This might as well be called the "I can't believe I own WWE LE", because I can't believe it.

I got this via trade and I did not expect to even pick it up but I couldn't stop playing it. It's just a ton of fun.

I'm not a huge wrestling fan, but grew up during the start of the Wrestlmania era, so having the Legends there definitely helps.

Still this pin might be perfectly designed for the theme. I know people hate it, but I guarantee most are not WWE LE owners. Everyone flocks to this pin in the gameroom. It's a blast to play.

It's not an LE clunker from Stern. I know. I owned TFLE. That pin is a chore with a fun factor of zero.

Anyone who hasn't played this, give it a try. You can pick some HUO up for a steal.

From https://pinside.com/pinball/community/pinsiders/tsskinne

Here is a gameplay video with glass off of my Wrestlemania LE just to give those of you who may face it in a tournament a better idea of the rules.
My typical strategy, not on display in the video is listed at the bottom:
Plunge when 3rd LED is lit on launch ramp for bonus multiplier into the ring to start your first match. Don't worry so much about hitting it into the ring saucer as hitting lit targets, enough target hits defeats your opponent.
The most important thing for points is the post match celebration. You need to hit 4 roving lit targets in the ring, and then into the saucer for large match bonuses. I have seen them be over 10+ million.
Also the value for winning matches seems a bit random, I can't tell if you earn more points with pop bumper hits and stand up target hits on the lower playfield for the matches, or if winning the matches quickly increases points, but regardless the values are not consistent.
Very important to drain out of ring after winning the match and hopefully finishing the showboating bonus mode. There are little to no points in the ring at that point and the next match wont start until you take down the drops in the middle of the lower playfield again. Then back up to the top, for next match. Win three matches light the U.S. Championship match, you do not need to hit the drops again to start this match, it is simply ready to go. There is no showboating bonus after the title match.
During any match, shoot 4 lit purple ref targets to start referee knockout multiball. I typically try to do this after the first match. The jackpots are not very valuable in this multiball, or really any of them for that matter, but importantly you can win matches quickly with multiple balls in the ring, and you can even start the next match during this multiball.
Tag Team: Tag team locks can only be activated when not in a match, it is best to enter this mode after completing the U.S. Title Match. Shot each green stand up once, lights lock at the far left saucer on LE, or on the far left loop shot on the Pro. Two shots to the lock, then a shot into the ring to start the tag team multiball. Now the hard/impossible part. All shots with white arrow are lit for jackpots, shoot each one twice, then go into the ring and shoot into the saucer, then shoot a roving jackpot shot to complete the multiball. Now drain out of multiball, now restart tag team multiball by again shooting green stand up targets, and then again shooting the far left shot but now it is three times an then back into the ring to start it again, now you are in the tag team championship match, entering this mode now lights royal rumble mode which is a multiball that has you competing for the intercontinental championship.
After draining out of tag team multiball you must then shoot up the ramps to start IC according to the DMD, but ramp shots alone are not enough, Shoot ramp, drain to lower playfield, then shoot far left shot for the Royal Rumble multiball to start. Now all jackpots are flashing, after hitting each one twice they go solid letting you know of progress, I did not complete this mode, but completing it is supposed to light the heavyweight title match at wrestlemania for you.
Realistically almost all of this is next to impossible for me, and I'm guessing many of you. My focus for tournament would be continually chopping wood, winning matches, doing well in showboating mode, and consistently increasing my bonus multiplier, the bonus points will just come through longer ball times. Be sure not to tilt away your bonus, I lost a 20 million point bonus during league play last night on mine, very aggravating. Not the greatest news for tourney players I am sure, but the game is a lot of fun and difficult to try to actually progress through, unfortunately right now there is probably no need to attempt to make progress for good tourney scores and instead just focus on the ring, matches, and bonus. Good luck.
Hope the video helps some of you, and if you have any other questions about it just let me know. The video is also posted to the Facebook page of Taylor Reese and I for our This Flippin Podcast, its briefly discussed in our newest episode due out this week.
https://www.facebook.com/This-Flippin-Podcast-1034214746618821/timeline/
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I've played it a lot and I have to be honest, I don't know exactly when the abilities are fully enforced. Here is a good description of the 1.25 code (latest is 1.33) which probably holds true today from Tilt Forums.

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So, recently Stern pushed out a new code update for Wrestlemania. In the theme of the recent Avengers update, the objective of the update is to remove old, repetitive scoring strategies and put in new avenues for gameplay.

While the full update (for the Pro, applies to the LE as well) can be found here1, the summary is as follows:

Quality of Life Updates

Makes the game pretty.

Improved SFX, speech, and music quality.
Improved lighting effects and LED usage.
New out-of-ring dots.
General Updates

Praise the sun! No more top lanes!

Top ring lanes no longer grant Bonus X, and grant 300k towards bonus instead.
Ramps divert to the opposite ramp when a match is not underway.
3-bank completions now start a hurry-up on the center loop shots for Bonus X or Bonus Count increases.
During the hurry-ups, the left orbit will be lit red for + Bonus X, and the right orbit will be lit yellow for +3 Bonus Advance. Both are on a ~15-second timer.
A light plunge (not touching the ramp) skill shot has been added. Shooting any of the major shots grants 1 million * number of super skill shots made. Outlane ball saves have been changed to compensate.
New pop bumper awards have been added, and are easier to achieve than previous awards.
Increased Ring Fans progress on bottom lanes.
Money in the Bank completion starts the respective championship on the next standard or Tag Team match.
Match Updates

Attack from the Top Rope.

Similar to Attack from Mars, wrestlers now have an HP bar and a Pin Value.
Wrestling moves in the ring do damage to opponents and add to the Pin Value.
Signature moves do double damage, and doubles the base Pin Value (when complete).
The Lower Playfield has shots lit, which double the base Pin Value upon completion.
When an opponent's HP bar is depleted, pinning your opponent will collect the Pin Value and end the match.
Showboating now increases in value based on Ring Fans (from bottom lane completions).
Showboating now plays the wrestler's theme.
Matches increase in difficulty per completion, and require more 3-bank completions to start. Default settings are 2 for each match.
Ref Updates

There were other ref modes?

Ref Scoring is removed, making Ref Multiball the only award.
Ref shots increase the jackpot value out of multiball by 12.5k.
Ref shots in multiball increase the super jackpot value by 250k (or 500k on a Double Jackpot).
Matches cannot end during Ref Multiball.
Reduced number of shots required to start subsequent Ref Multiballs.
Tag Updates

More balls, bigger stakes.

Ring targets now count towards Tag Team progress during the multiball.
This also means that the previous Signature Move doubler is in play!
Opponents tag out based on a 30-second timer.
Completing the Tag Targets and shooting the Tag Team scoop gives a timed 2x playfield award and an add-a-ball.
Reduced the number of shots required to start Tag Team Multiball. First multiball is defaulted to one scoop shot.
Jackpots are now 10m + 2.5m per subsequent pin.
For those who want more detailed notes, I wrote the notes below to separate the LewisNotes version from the long detailed thoughts.

Quality of Life Updates

All of these updates were not 100% necessary, but nice touches. The new bonus hurry-ups (listed below) flash the inner loop in red and yellow, and match starts are now a solid gold. During matches, leaving the ring now shows a new out of ring DMD display, with new ways to pummel your opponent. Also I hope you like your theme music, because it plays more often now. Showboating will play the music, the music for each wrestler plays in the "choose a wrestler" menu, and a few other nice touches on the music end tie out the package.

General Updates

With Wrestlemania moving towards a distinct "neutral game" between matches, drastic improvements were made to the lower playfield. Bonus advances and Bonus X now synergize with Standard Match advances, making the match process naturally lead into opportunities to advance your bonus (which can still be a major player in the game). All skill shots in the game have improved point values, with a new Super Skillshot being added for a million plus for those seeking raw points instead of utility. With gameplay styles leading to more Kick Outs or Break Holds and therefore more skill shots, having a raw scoring option can help tip the balance in your favor. The ramps now divert in a loop similar to the old Ref Scoring when out of matches, keeping the ring sacred for matches and action. Like Game of Thrones before it, the pop bumpers will now churn out contextually-useful rewards, including:

Advance Fan Level
20 Second Ball Save
Advance Tag
Advance Bonus
Advance Signature Move
Light Extra Ball
Light Special
Big Points
Money in the Bank is finally seeing the light of day, being a scoring affix on your next match to make the points sweeter. While I shyed away from this in regular play, it can be a useful trick to start putting up big third-ball scores to stage a comeback.

Match Updates

Standard Matches, and their multiball brother Tag Matches, are now the meat and potatoes to scoring in Wrestlemania. Just like before, the objective is to wail on a guy and eventually pin him. Unlike before, you can keep going during the match, clowning around with your opponent and being a true crowd pleaser even after he's marked as ready to pin to build up tons of points! You can tell when an opponent is ready to pin now by the health bar located at the far right of the DMD marking off progress and by the "1/2/3" lights being lit at the scoop when you can finish the match.

Scoring wise, the base value of a match is 5m + 1m for each match after the first. Shots in the upper playfield start at 150k, but grow by 25k or 50k as far out as you want. I've seen one of my friends run a match long (swearing that he can't pin Cesaro along the way) and work up to 1m a ring target, which is a nice little touch to a game that is all about gladiatorial acts. For each move that builds up to the pin, the score is added to the base value as a Pin Total, which is awarded when your opponent is finally pinned. There are two ways to get 2x scoring on the base value (up to a 4x bonus!), which are to Advance Signature Move on the right 2-bank and bash your opponent with one (for a few million points as well!) or complete the lower playfield shots, which are a new addition to the code.

Speaking of the lower playfield, it is considered "out of the ring" and has its own set of theatrics. By hitting lit shots, you can advance towards a pin just like in the upper playfield at a similar scoring rate (100k with bonuses for combo shots), bashing your opponent on the ring steps, throwing them into the audience wall, or smashing their face off of the posts. Each has their own DMD animation, along with the DMD backdrop for being out of the ring itself and provides an alternative to wailing on the upper playfield.

Overall, the matches are now a "stored potential" with visible points on the table as the match goes on, with the excitement all pouring out as you cash in a nice chunk of change to the tune of at least 6m if not doubled and 11m if doubled.

Ref Updates

Ah, Ref Multiball. You were a helpful friend in helping us pummel wrestlers and nothing else more. Ref Multiball gets its own sea legs in this update, being a non-stackable mode in which you shoot shots for Ref Jackpots at 250k or Double Jackpots at 500k to build up a Super Jackpot value (unknown base) at the pin scoop. A nice change of pace from a match, while being impactful to scoring. Ref Scoring is now removed, making Ref Multiball the only Ref Award on the game.

Tag Updates

The addition of a meaty Tag Team Multiball match and the harder ability to start Standard Matches add an interesting "neutral game" in Wrestlemania. Do you go for the standard match, with its bounty of points if you can prove your showmanship and get a pin, or do you go for the riskier Tag Team targets and start a Tag Match, with a massive payout for each pin you can shoot in a multiball? Each has its own benefits, but I personally like to get immediately in a tag match after my 1st pin and try to smother out a score.

Tag Team Multiball works just like before to start: hit the 2 "Tag" targets on the ramps to light the Tag Team scoop on the left, and then shoot the scoop to advance to your multiball. Default settings have the first multiball to work off of one scoop, which makes a plunged ball a deadly weapon with "Advance Tag Team." Once you qualify the Tag Team match, shooting a ramp will start the 4-ball Tag Team Multiball. Tag Team is similar to a standard match, in which you have to deal enough damage to a wrestler to go in for the pin and massive jackpots starting at 10 million. Your opponents will tag out every 30 seconds to put a fresh face in, so keep those pins coming!

A nice Metallica-esque feature is that during this multiball, a 2x Booster and an add-a-ball can be awarded by shooting the "Tag" targets again followed by the lit Tag Team scoop. Combined with Signature Moves for a net 4x pin, a ludicrous amount of points can be scored through this mode! My best multiball is 2 pins and 88 million, with the latter being a 2x Boosted, Signature Move Pin for 50 million!

Final Thoughts

Wrestlemania has shrugged off its old skeletons for a new face, and it shines brightly. The game provides options to match different playstyles and multiple options that are all viable while adding new bells and whistles to dazzle your newly-acquired ring fans (spectators who are wondering why you are playing this game). If you swore off Wrestlemania for the Ramp All Day strategy, I'd find a machine that has the update and give it a try!

NICE!

I just played a game 1/2 hour ago. Won US Champ and qualified for Intercontinental and then played Royal Rumble. One pin value as Hulk Hogan was 50,000,000. Largest I've seen.

Holy crap RR is fun as hell. I wish I could glance up at the DMD to see everything that's going on.

This pin is a ton of fun.

Tag team multiball is still a huge point getter. It's key to the game both points wise and advancing to Royal Rumble.

Music: not sure. Pinball Browser maybe, but not in game.

I've been testing and I can't fully determine the multipliers. I will probably take the glass off and do some testing.

I can't say it's better than TSPP, but the game is a ton of fun.

As a wrestling fan you'll love it. Having the ring is true to the theme and the spinning disc makes it difficult.

Tag team multiball is worth too many points compared to others but getting to Royal Rumble is very tough but really fun.

Final wizard mode is impossible to reach for me so far.

What mod is this?

Yes it means you started it but did not finish.

Yeah and I think if you complete them or rollover the blinking one, you will do your signature finisher, which gives a big score along with increasing pin value multiplier. Best guess.

Yep I've seen it. Next update will hopefully correct it

There was a recent Stern factory tour where Jody says there's a code update coming. See quoted post below.

That guy must have exploited Tag Team MB which can rack up big scores.

My high score is 502+ Million.

It doesn't happen very often since multiball is tough. You need to pin during a ball save for sure so you can concentrate on the upper ring.

Not really long on the LE b/c the spinning ring makes pins difficult.

If you just shoot the right and left ramp to get to the upper play field you can have longer games rather that trying to advance through the belts and completing objectives.

I find I have shorter ball times trying to complete the games goals like championship belts, going for bonus and pin multipliers, etc.

I am still digging it, but beyond that, because of this machine, my kids are now WAY into wrestling. We've been to Smackdown Live, WWE Holiday Tour (basically Smackdown LITE) and now an NXT event. I've created monsters. No way I can sell! They'd kill me.

I think I saw an IG post with GLORIOUS shirts. Was that you?

Smackdown, even without Cena, is miles ahead of Raw. Maybe it's the 2 hour format advantage. Maybe it's the oh-so-tired Roman Reigns crap. But Smackdown rules.

Royal Rumble is the best. We watch replays on the WWE Network all the time. We've never watched one live.

Pretty much spot on.

I still think LE is the way to go. It's not deep but it is tough. Not tough in an unfair way. It's tough to pin on the LE, and it's even thought to set things up to try to pin at the right time.

Great number!

German suplexes for everyone

1. No
2. Yes

Mine has one but it's not Stern. Maybe the original owner changed it out? Strange.

Tag Team. Wins can be huge. Complete a singles match, then hit the Tag Team standups near each bottom loop, then the saucer (different on pro, I forget the shot).

Then tag team is lit. Enter the ring.

After each Tag Team Multiball it becomes harder to start, but just rinse and repeat.

Yes I've had that before too. The code gets pedigreed. ;D

THAT'S awesome. Mine is smudged too

Agree!

IG post by Natalya and Ryder

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Long answer:
In the coding world, it's more complicated. It requires analysis, change, a rebuild of the code and then user testing. You'd be surprised what you can break with a little change because code is reused a lot.

Short answer:
Stern is freakin' lazy

Hilarious.

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Cool where did you get them?

Hit the two inner loops and then the left saucer on the LE. Doubles pin value.

You can triple it (at least). Not sure if you need to enter the ring again, then exit, then hit the shots again. Might have to.

RAW last night. 2028 Tag Team Champions.

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That's fantastic!

Doesn't matter if Mac or not. Just try another USB Stick. I don't know exactly the right size, but I have sticks that work, and some that don't.

New code is really good. The game got a lot of updates. There's a few bugs to squash to really polish it off.

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Next year, it’s at MetLife Stadium, so I’ll definitely take my kids. They’ll NEVER forgive me if I didn’t.

We’ve seen Raw, SDLive and Holiday Tour multiple times live, but still the best was NXT. It was right after Samoa Joe was called up. Kids got a chance to high five Dillinger, Roode and Nakamura. Saw Asuka, Mandy Rose, Sonya Deville and Ember Moon in a real small setting. Good stuff and inexpensive.

If you want to buy one, yes. Sell, heck no.

For code, I was demonstrating in the other day and holy hell I had everything ready. Could hardly believe it. Was ready for the Championship Match and couldn't hit the shot, because you need to hit the left ramp to start it. On the LE you hit the left ramp, but the right control gate doesn't close, so you have to hit it "soft". That's the only bug. Someone earlier in this thread posted the fix, which is reversing the optos on the right gate if I remember correctly.

Then, you can't loop around the playfield ramps for combos, but that's ok. That is the default behavior on the pro. So the fix is simple, really.

Seems like Stern did not put a change on the LE codebase. It's probably 15 characters of text and a simple fix.

True. The PRO is 10x the game WWFRR is too. Easiest upper playfield ever. Typical 3 shot Data East with other things. PRO is way deeper and way tougher.

Same boat here. My Kids Love Punk, but never saw him live.

At least I’m taking them to see The Undertaker at MSG in a month.

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It's a dark show, so I don't expect anything to really happen, but it's the Undertaker.

https://www1.ticketmaster.com/wwe-live-summerslam-heatwave-tour-new-york-new-york-07-07-2018/event/3B005467DF393C3B

For the first time in 8 years, The Undertaker returns live in action to MSG!

Seth Rollins vs. Finn Balor vs. Elias
– Triple Threat Match for The Intercontinental Championship –

Ronda Rousey vs. Nia Jax
– RAW Women’s Championship Match –

Plus more of your favorite WWE Superstars including:
Roman Reigns
Braun Strowman
Bobby Lashley
Kevin Owens
Sami Zayn
Bobby Roode
Jinder Mahal
Sasha Banks
Alexa Bliss
Bayley
Dolph Ziggler
Matt Hardy
Bray Wyatt

You're a gentleman and a scholar. I want these done badly as well. We find this game fun as heck as a family and are WWE/WWF fans.

It's not a lot to ask for a few fixes and honestly I figure they might want to do some polish just to remove Trudeau's face during Ref Mulitball.

Thanks for requesting, but I have a feeling I know Stern's reaction.

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They should. It's popular. WWE's YouTube channel has more followers than the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA and Nascar COMBINED.

It could but since all connections flow downhill in the spike system, try reseating connections in the node boards, specifically the GI. It can have a negative effect on the flippers.

Yeah it’s bug. LE only. If I remember, the right gate never closes, so the ball loops around and never falls into the ring to start the match.

U Can’t C Me

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Can’t we call up someone from NXT to help finish it?

Was playing last night and this is where I was...

1 Finished US Championship (win 3 individual matches, then win US Champ match), this also lights extra ball
2 Finished Tag Team Championship (win 1 Tag Team match, then win the Tag Team Title Match)
3 Royal Rumble Qualified. Shooting left shot (the saucer) which also is the Intercontinental Belt Match

Is point #3 correct? The only strange thing is it says "shoot the left shot" but the shot isn't lit. The left shot is the saucer though, NOT the top left loop.

Once that begins, Jackpots "move" throughout the Playfield. If you hit enough, presumably you light the super (I assume the pin shot) and win the IC title?

Sorry to see you go. I *almost* traded it and the guy backed out. It's a blessing in disguise. Just started playing it a lot again and there's a code update on the way!

Levi said this in a post a couple weeks ago. He doesn't BS. I imagine at the very least, Ambrose and Trudeau's Ref Image will be replaced.

I didn't know there were any.

Do we play WWE LE with the sound off this weekend in solidarity with fanless Wrestlemania?

Negative on both, brother.

I bought mine somewhere for like $20. Pinballlife?

It's pretty damn complete, but supposedly an update is coming. There are multiple people who said this, incl. someone at Stern. I imagine they want to get Trudeau out of the game, drop Ambrose, and correct a couple coding issues.

Pin values are increased by shooting the inner orbits under the ring and the left saucer. You have to hit all three for the pin value to increase 1x from original. Every time you then enter and exit the ring, you can try again to increase it. Tag Team Multiball is still more valuable though.

Two successive completions of the drop targets in any order lights the next singles match towards the the US Championship. Then you shoot either outer orbit to enter the ring and start the match. I'm not sure what they do except award points otherwise.

I've played a thousand games and never ever had that happen.

Are you missing this "airball" plastic?

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PinMonk any ideas on the coil? (PS: no idea why a "blank" image is embedded)

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Shocking stuff.