Quoted from zaphX:

Yeah, there really isn’t much to say until the games hit the bricks. Maybe when the CE details get revealed that will spark some chatter.
I have to say, Stern has this right with the reveal and ship being super close together. It’s best to give people the chance to buy when you have their excitement at the highest level.
A friend in the car business says “time kills all car deals” and I have to wonder if time also kills pin purchases. Not that I am out personally - still in on my CE - but the more time there is between reveal and ship, the more chance for people to change their mind, take interest in a different pin, have life/job circumstances change, etc.

Quoted from Lermods:

it's true, and I do think it is an issue not to be able to deliver more quickly, but Stern games at release are pretty much never close to being finished from a code perspective and the games are not nearly as technically difficult to build. JJP games tend to be much further along in code at release and are much more complex to build.

Quoted from toyotaboy:

I was just asked by my distributor to pay the remainder now, with games shipping in 2-4 weeks (but not guaranteed). This is a new policy by JJP to guarantee distributors don't cancel game orders.
curious if anyone else is being asked to pay now upfront before receiving their game?

Quoted from djreddog:

One of the big mysteries for this game has to be trying to understand why they removed “big points” from the final version of the game. Below is a side by side comparison of a prototype and LN the right is an LE final version.
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I had a friend make this custom sticker. $5 shipped if you want one. Perfect? No. Helluva lot better than the big empty clear insert? 100%![quoted image]

Quoted from zaphX:

No, they didn't.
It's exactly the same in 1.13 as it was in 1.07 or whatever it shipped with.
Compare this from July 3 to current:

Quoted from parsonsaj:

Ah, you should have got the Pinstadium Omegas! Those have the diffusers on them which stop the reflections that you can see on your game.
I bought these protectors from Pinball Life that are good to keep the playfield from damaging the side art (I have mirror blades on mine) when you raise it:
https://www.pinballlife.com/interior-cabinet-protector-blade-set.html

Quoted from jimbodeanny:

Although, I messed up one side the first time, I didn't have much trouble installing the blades. It's my first pin, but I installed them very similar to arcade game side art and they went on just fine. It just takes a little planning and care. I also bought and used the blade protectors. They are a lifesaver and actually assist nicely with the install.

I installed the Omegas as well and love them. Almost no noticeable reflection at all. I had no interest in the colored lights and just wanted a softer, more subtle affect on the playfield and the Omegas do that superbly. In fact, mine are only set at 20% brightness.

Quoted from Rager170:

Question... what exactly is the point of covering the machines like that?

Quoted from waynetrane:

Here comes another example with the factory upgrade instead of the factory building on the left side.[quoted image]

Quoted from TonLoc777:

Anyone with the tilt topper know where it plugs into? No instructions unfortunately. I’m guessing somewhere in the backbox? Thanks in advance.

Quoted from Rager170:

I really wish someone else would make a good topper for this....

Quoted from Rager170:

Yea but ive heard numerous times its overly bright and there is no way to dim it.

Quoted from Trindawg:

I’m really close to pulling the trigger on a trade for a Willy wonka SE for my stranger things pro. I’ve never owned a JJ pinball machine. Heck, my stranger things pin is only my 2nd machine ever owned. Anything I should know about or be aware of ? I absolutely fell in love with this game when I played it last year at a pinball show. I love the theme. WW is one of my all time favorite movies. I love jersey jack pins and have always wanted to own one.

Quoted from Trindawg:

Yeah I’m gonna have my neighbor help me load it in when I get it back. And no it’s not a straight up trade. I’ll have to fork over some cash, which is fine. But I’m just worried about load in.

Quoted from Rager170:

If im not mistaken, Wonka is about the same weight as WOZ. I was surprised by this when I was looking at buying Wonka.

Quoted from Rager170:

I was shocked when I found the weight of Wonka. I asked how it could be as much as WOZ since it is a wide body.. The reply that I received was that "Candy makes you gain weight" lol. I always found that hysterical.

Quoted from rockrand:

I sold my dp pre for a wonka And do not regret it at all

Quoted from Bfults:

This, This is killing me, and my love for the game. Just so frustrating. It like it comes from the back of the pops so there is nothing you can do about it. 75% of my drains are from this.

Quoted from Pinballomatic:

2 - 3/16"

Quoted from harryhoudini:

Buy the longest ones and cut them down, never need a special size again

Quoted from TKDalumni:

Man this game has some really great flow once you get the hang of it. Super fun!

Quoted from GrandFireball1:

Woo!! Only 2 extra balls. Best moment was an over 10 mil bonus collect (8x bonus * 5x playfield * 500ish bars). Also made it to pure imagination, but haven’t mastered that mode yet. [quoted image]

Quoted from zaphX:

You're doing better than we are after around 15 months playing it. My wife is the first of us to get 3 tickets and it just happened this week!
The one cool thing is that despite the difficulty, it keeps us interested enough to keep trying. It seems like every time we're getting frustrated and ready to quit, we have an amazing game that sets the hook all over again.
Wonka is going to be the first pin we own to pay for itself in terms of number of plays.

Quoted from jester523:

Post 5845 says he got to pure imagination (5 tickets). He also got 22 million on his ball one, which is almost 6 times my best score, so....i think I'm a long way away.

Quoted from robey99:

Does anyone know if someone is making decals for all of the various targets in the game. I was surprised JJP did not include these on the premium editions. Thanks.

Quoted from jarozi:

Not making the final call until the reveal but if I pull the trigger I haven't landed on LE or CE so I have a questions for those who have owned both. Exclusivity is the least important factor, so removing that, is there anywhere close to $3000 in additional value in a CE over an LE on a JJP? Or is most of the value assigned to the numbers on the plaque? Thanks!

Quoted from waynetrane:

Agree 100%
The LE blue looks def nicer.
Topper and sideart is wack.
And who needs a princess-sparkeling-playfield.
More important is not to have a pooling one.

Quoted from zaphX:

The CE callouts though...

Quoted from Yesh23:

I know other folks told me to take the rubbers off the post but I like to have rubbers on the post. I have the smallest rubbers 3/8” on the post and the ball won’t go through the insane. This design makes no sense.
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Quoted from Rager170:

Just take it off and play like a man!

Quoted from Rager170:

I was totally joking but not sure how it would ruin pinballs? The game comes stock with no post on that left side and that is the factory default.

Quoted from Rager170:

Factory default is having no post at all on the left side.
But I always hear the metal on metal thing and its unavoidable with pinball. Balls are smashing into metal plated ramps and such, let alone multiball where balls are smashing into themselves.

Quoted from swampy:

Only 15M?? outstanding score.

Quoted from zaphX:

The last one is Wonkavator - shoot blue/yellow shots until the hole opens, fill it, repeat 3x.
I have a lot of skill envy, I gotta say.

Quoted from zaphX:

The small screen on the playfield will tell you how many jackpots remain and whether you are on Level 1, 2 or 3.

Quoted from MightyRipples:

Wonkavator Multiball golden ticket:
Level 1: any 6 shots lit that are yellow and blue, all shots stay lit till you open the gobstopper hole and lock a ball in there. Then collect super jackpot on the spinner sending you to level 2.
Level 2: any 6 shots lit yellow and blue, shots are not lit after hit the first time. Forcing you to hit 6 different shots on the playfield, until you open the gobstopper hole and lock another ball/ collect the super jackpot on the upper right spinner again sending you to level 3
Level 3: works like level 2 except after every shot you hit, you must then hit the captive ball (which will flash yellow and blue) so I believe this comes out to be 12 total shots then gobstopper and collect the super to collect the golden ticket
Remaining shots left to hit and what level you are currently on should be displayed on the Wonka vision screen so you can keep track of where you are in the multiball.
Hope this helps!

Quoted from zaphX:

It sounds like you got to the Most Secret Machine mode for the 4th Golden Ticket! Well done.
I hope to get there someday.

Quoted from zaphX:

Part of the magic of this pin is the rewards like that which are difficult to achieve. They end up setting a hook and getting us excited all over again.

Quoted from zaphX:

Part of the magic of this pin is the rewards like that which are difficult to achieve. They end up setting a hook and getting us excited all over again.

Quoted from zaphX:

Nothing for the 3rd ticket...and I only know this because my wife Susan got her 3rd GT last week. I have yet to do it.

Quoted from zaphX:

Nothing for the 3rd ticket...and I only know this because my wife Susan got her 3rd GT last week. I have yet to do it.

Quoted from Skipnatty:

Technically it's not "nothing." You get candy stash award. 100 wonka bars and 50 candy jar.

Quoted from zaphX:

I've gotten a little_ better at defending the right drain. I give a hard thump upward as the ball approaches that area, basically hoping to tap it with the top of the sling and bounce it out of danger. If it makes it past the sling, the same approach also sometimes works to cause a vertical rattle into the safe return lane.
No shame in moving the posts, I have considered it many times!

Quoted from romulusx:

Never heard of to different settings on leveling playfield?I’m a carpenter so I use a inclinometer for top to bottom at 6.7 and a torpedo level at flippers and up high on playfield left to right.

Quoted from romulusx:

I hear you?You can tell the difference I actually played a DI that was slow as molasses because of bad set up!

Quoted from daveyvandy:

Yes, the final wizard mode is a big disappointment compared to the other ones. I like the fourth wizard mode the best personally. Of course, I am have the game on slightly easier settings so that I can experience these things.

Quoted from tpoeckh:

Can anyone confirm what the game weighs? Online it says 300lbs, but in this thread some have indicated it weighs as much as a WOZ.

Quoted from tpoeckh:

I wasn’t expecting anyone to have a weigh scale they put the machine on, but maybe the weight was listed somewhere, such as shipping documents, manual, etc.

Quoted from tpoeckh:

Googling also says 300lbs. I’m trying to gauge whether me and two friends can handle moving this pin.

Quoted from tpoeckh:

The same 2 buddies helped with moving a Ghostbusters Premium up stairs, but that only weighed 210lbs. The 330lbs weight has me concerned, since no one rents Escaleras in my area.

Quoted from tpoeckh:

No one has has health issues and we're younger, but only weight about 170lbs each if I was guessing. I've played a Wonka on location, it looked and played like a standard body.

Quoted from Lrrr:

Very excited! Be patient with the rules. They don't make sense at first, and the lights don't really tell you what to do. The call outs are a little cryptic too, but are very consistent. Certain quotes from the movie guide you, but it is not obvious at first what they are telling you to do. Oh, and the shots to complete Augustus make no sense: Right ramp, left loop. Oh and... i could go on and on. Great pin, have fun!

Quoted from IronMan8Bit:

Anyone with an LE do any of the art blades? If so can you show them off? Can't believe they're 3 different options!

Quoted from IronMan8Bit:

I don't think I know what those are? Have a link?

Quoted from IronMan8Bit:

Gotcha makes sense now, thanks a lot!

Quoted from LTG:

Missing a lane guide.
LTG : )
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Quoted from IronMan8Bit:

Man this game is fun! Way different experience on an LE and in the home. I only was able to play an SE at a bar and it was always super dark and hard to play it.
Only have gotten 1 golden ticket so far, but was able to push out the last owner from Grand Champion already (2.2 mil I know not very good). All my virtual pinball experience paying off! lol I was curious how translatable it would be and I think it has made me a way better player. Haven't played real pinball in over 6 months.
The shots are so satisfying/fun/easy such a stark difference from some of the other games I've played in the past/owned. I just could not get into Guardians of the Galaxy or JP2 and it always felt like I was trying to do 1 thing in the game to progress (GotG scoop shot, JP2 in-between the Jeep shot) and that sucked out any semblance of fun I thought I was having when playing them. With WW right out of the gate you're working on so many different things at once and combo'ing into everything if you want, talk about a flow monster! Only about 50 games in, but that is the feeling I have so far.

Quoted from mtp78:

Is the code finished for this game ??

Quoted from Adipocere:

I think they should do this and then maybe make an option to randomize which Wizard mode unlocks with each golden ticket achieved. I suppose you could keep Pure Imagination for last, but it would be really great to have the first ticket randomly activate, say, Most Secret Machine or Wonka's Office mode instead of always being Oompa Loompa Odyssey (even though that is awesome).

Quoted from Rager170:

seems like getting Golden Tickets is quite the challenge!

Quoted from SBrothers:

Considering pinstadiums on my wonka LE ..yea or nea?
Don’t want to lose the great light show, but MAN this playfield is dark!

Quoted from NightTrain:

Hey all. I'm kicking around the idea of buying a NIB Wonka LE. I've played it a few times on location and really have never understood the rules. But I've owned all the other JJP pins and have really liked them all once I figured them out.
Does this game have some last-ability?
Is the code pretty deep/wide?
If I'm buying NIB, has JJP fixed their playfield issues? What build date should I be looking for?
After owning the game, would you recommend buying one?
Any other thoughts?

Quoted from zaphX:

Well let me put it this way...I had a Wonka SE. We put around 5000 plays on it, traded up for a CE and we are now approaching 7000 plays.
Wonka is the game we play every. single. day.
We continue to uncover more nuance and strategy the more we play.
So far my wife has gotten 3 golden tickets once, both of us have gotten 2 a dozen times or so. But more importantly, we're still engaged and excited to keep trying. It's kind of amazing.
I am -extremely- satisfied with the depth and longevity!

Without reservation.

Quoted from zaphX:

The wife and I play for at least an hour or two every night, often longer.
We're both very competitive with each other. She took down my 8.5M GC from 3/1 last weekend with a 9.9M and I replaced it with 10M the very next day.
There is something super satisfying about collecting gobstoppers, kid jackpots etc that has us chasing the dragon.
At around 12k plays between the two machines, the game has almost paid for itself!

Quoted from zaphX:

Wonkavator we're getting closer and closer to. Hitting level 3 fairly regularly. Gobstoppers, we've gotten 4 a few times.
Currently focusing most on the kid ticket, I think it's an easier reach than the others.

Quoted from zaphX:

Wonkavator we're getting closer and closer to. Hitting level 3 fairly regularly. Gobstoppers, we've gotten 4 a few times.
Currently focusing most on the kid ticket, I think it's an easier reach than the others.

Quoted from JellyNeck:

I love my Wonka LE. I wasn't sure about the topper, but it looks ways better in person.

Quoted from SBrothers:

Holy crap!
I JUST discovered that ANY shot to the “kid multiball” magnet lights the super spinner for wonka bars!
Before this I thought it was the ramps for 1,2, or 3 wonka bars (depending on the ramp) or 2X wonka bar insert or super spinner insert to collect bars.
Did NOT know that you can rape the “kid multiball” to super spinner shot over and over (regardless of having kids lined up).
NOW I feel 200+ wonka bars is doable!
...gonna be a Wonkalicious weekend baby!

Quoted from zaphX:

You mean 8X bonus, playfield (SuperX) goes to 5x.

Quoted from cooked71:

Thanks pinballomatic . Fun it is.
And when I say “surprisingly good” I mean I don’t know why it took so long for me to get one. Just slipped under the radar for some reason.

Quoted from rockrand:

Also make the games with out that loud pop upon start up,what is up with that!i know there is a kit that turns off speaker when the game starts but really!

Quoted from cooked71:

So as it stands there are mini wizards for 1,2,4 and 5, but not at 3? Weird. Maybe one was taken out due to licensing?

Quoted from Pinballomatic:

Yes but the good thing for you is that you are getting a ton of mileage out of this one complaint

Quoted from Skipnatty:

You get +100 wonka bars and +50 candy jar after GT 3. That's worth quite a bit to your score and score potential. Not lazy programming IMO, just a decision to enable players to take advantage of further scoring strats related to bars and spinner.

Quoted from romulusx:

I agree that a wizard mode would be better,but I’m not sure we can say the programmers got lazy

Quoted from slippifishi:

I wonder if originally the wizard modes were awarded for tickets 2 to 5? ie. the ones you have to actually work for. That first random ticket sometimes comes really early in a game for relatively little effort, but then, the second ticket is so far away, maybe they reordered the modes to what they are today to give more access to the modes to more players? If you got 100 wonka bars for the first randomly awarded golden ticket, that is a much more reasonable sounding reward for the level of ticket, but it would mean far fewer people would see the wonder of Wonka's Office, and we would all be telling each other how wonderful the oompah loompah multiball for ticket 2 was
Still trying for that third (and fourth! and fifth!) ticket myself, but consistently getting in the 4 and 5 millions now. Hoping I can get it before the end of 2020...

Quoted from Crile1:

I would love mirrors for this game, but have had bad luck getting them to fit on the more recent JJP games.

Quoted from jetmechinnc:

Well from the responses, which I appreciate, it sounds like I need to call and see if they have one in stock and change my order.

Quoted from Jdlana:

I have a std wonka and love it. I play everyday but after a year (and after getting all 5 tickets...on easy mode), I am considering a Guns N’ Roses LE. Mike in Milford CT is my distributor and I played a few games there this morning. I would sell the WW if I went with the GNR. I have room (and $$) for just one machine. Any advice from someone who has played the GNR long term? Will it keep my interest like WW?

Quoted from tpoeckh:

Anyone purchase a new Willy Wonka and have the 8 legs bolts missing? I'm trying to avoid cutting the strap that holds the head in place before installing the legs, but are these in the coin door area instead of being installed on the machine like Stern does?

Quoted from tpoeckh:

No, that's were I expected them to be. Not a single one was apparently shipped with the game. Did the LE have felt protectors also?

Quoted from tpoeckh:

I just emailed Jersey Jack Pinball requesting the leg bolts and felt protectors to be sent. Not a warm fuzzy feeling so far on a $9,500 purchase that is missing basic parts needed to set it up.

Quoted from Gasoline:

Here are a few pix of the mods I've added to my CE. They don't change the game play but i feel they enhance the aura/atmosphere of the game!
1) Lermods RGB Translight Kit (changes color)
2) ModCouple Wonka Factory
3) Lermods RGB Trough Kit (changes color)/ModCouple Candy Grass Flipper Covers (on all 4 flippers)
4) ModCouple Smoke Stack, Top Hat, Shooter Lane Candy Grass
5) Playfield overview w/o Glass & w/ Glass
6) Close up of playfield sparkles
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Quoted from Rager170:

Normal setting from factory is to not have a post there.
Ive been curious how many do put the post on. I would imagine it would definitely increase scores as that is a big drain area.

Quoted from PoMC:

I joined the club yesterday. Fun game and blew up one game last night for over 4 million.
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Quoted from Lermods:

yes, a dab of hot glue will hold it, but I couldn't get one to stay in place so I just took it out.
The pipes were an add on I believe so maybe in the game POMC has, the previous owner didn't buy them.

Quoted from Lermods:

I think the pipes are pretty cool, when the ball passes through, the round handle spins.

Quoted from romulusx:

I don’t have the clear thin pieces that tie the pipe together on,to much trouble!

Quoted from Lermods:

The red pieces or the clear plastic piece. I had trouble with the clear plastic, but not the red pieces.

Quoted from Elvishasleft:

I was told they are "done" running these for all time.. anyone know if thats the case?
I have a chance to buy a standard so wondering if I should do it or If I can wait.

Quoted from SBrothers:

I’d like this info as well...considering art blades myself, but now thinks about mirror blades after jetmechannic’s post. They look pretty cool!
My concern is the ridiculous tight gap between the playfield and the interior sides of the cabinet. Barely enough room for a couple sheets of paper.

Quoted from Good-Times:

Wondering if you owners can comment on the music for Wonka - I'm contemplating adding it to my collection but worried the soundtrack will grind on me after a while. It's specifically why I wouldn't seek a WOZ, "I'm off to see the Wizard" at the start of every game would just drive me up the walls lol.

Quoted from romulusx:

Hey man I was just messing with you of course.The most I've ever gotten is three tickets and almost had the fourth.
I believe he is correct above about it being the Wonkavator golden ticket?