Totally in on a CE if I can get my hands on one...
I'm still in on a CE... I must admit I was underwhelmed by the game... I knew it wasn't going to be a wide body but man I hoped JJP would surprise us there as the wide body gives them so much more room for fun. I don't see anything revolutionary about the game at all, I don't remotely see what any of the hype was about to be honest. All of that being said, it looks like a very fun game to play and at the end of the day that's what matters most.
Any word on when the final CE stuff will be approved by the licensor and the last vague bullet point of "more surprises" (or whatever it says), revealed?
Stupid question perhaps that's already been asked/answered and I just missed it but... I keep seeing something about an additional post that's included but not installed that makes the game harder/easier... Could someone enlighten me as to what that's all about?
Quoted from zaphX:
Back up before the upgrade!
I was cavalier about this - the last update was fine after all - and got myself into a boot loop.
Now I’m having to reinstall 1.06 then the patch.
I’m certain my scores and plays will be lost (around 1200).[quoted image]
Yeah I learned that the hard way as well during one of my WOZ updates... Now I backup before every update, including delta's. Nothing sucks more than having all your scoring data wiped out...
Quoted from Chippewa-Pin:
I also received a request from Automated. I won't send in the payment until I get to see the CE. Getting to play a prototype got me to buy a WONKA, but I want to see the CE before I pay the balance. Who knows, I may decide to go with an LE or SE! 'Soon' has turned into 'Maybe not soon enough'. JJP could miss out on a few CE sales. If the delay is because they're still working with the license on a topper or ??, then I highly doubt the CEs will be on the line soon.
While I am aware of "why" the CE details haven't been announced I'm a bit concerned as to the "why" becoming a huge issue... So much so that I'm seriously considering backing out of my Wonka CE and getting either an LE or the Stern JP LE... I'm not sure if JJP really understands that the continued black hole that is the CE isn't going to help their sales much. Perhaps they just don't care and expect to sell out on reputation alone. Hard to say... I love JJP and their games, but I feel like it's 2 steps forward and 1 step back with them for no real good reason.
Come on JJP... PLEASE start talking about the CE's... Something... Anything...??? Watching everyone have fun with their SE/LE's is painful and really sucks...
Quoted from Furio:
Has anyone gotten any details or glimpse of a CE art package? I have asked around with Joe at Pinballstar and he hasn't been able to provide anything. I had my deposit down for the CE on day one, but seeing as they are reportedly starting to ship CE the end of August/September, I would have expected to see an art package by now.
Same here but nothing... I keep asking JJP every so often and continue to get the same answer so...
Quoted from psexton:
As someone suggested before, seems like the easy fix it just to activate the diverter in the down position immediately once a game play condition is met and leave it that way until the conditions of game play determine the ball should no longer be diverted (like perhaps when the Super Spinner mode times outs). This would make sure the ball always get diverted and not run pass the diverter too quickly and even it if did bounce off the diverter going up the ramp and back down the ramp again it would still be diverted.
This of course would require JJP to recode. Is there a reason not to do so? Perhaps leaving the coil activated for that long would burn it up?
If only... I've always wondering in POTC why JJP has the code retract the chest forks when you lose a ball only to immediately reactivate them when the next ball is popped into the launcher. Seems like unnecessary wear and tear on the fork mechanism and in the case of the Wonka diverter, seems like its affecting gameplay as well.
Quoted from dirtbag66:
You couldn't even play it?!?
Chipped playfields, bummer.
Diverter not working properly, that stinks.
But not being able to play AT ALL? Yikes. Good thing I'm waiting.
Would you put a sock in it? For heavens sake... We get it, you're not buying one... Cool... Would you like a pat on the back or something?
Machines fail, they just do... This isn't revolutionary or new... Or so I thought at least.
Any chance JJP changes the topper at this point due to the quite consistently negative feedback or are we basically to the point where it's just going to be this and deal with it?
Quoted from bigd1979:
They start on the line soon so i doubt they change anything.... i think the ce is gorgeous and offer's some nice upgrades over the other models. Is the topper amazing ..not really but its better than nothing and the lighting along with under cab lights is tied to different modes. Again its just a topper and u dont even see it when playing . Sorry i don't get the huge attachment people have with toppers. But the ce playfield ,radcals and armor are absolutely beautiful and the extra callout outs are a pretty cool touch. Is it worth the extra over the le ..probably not..but what le, super le and super duper editions are ?..... well that's up to the buyer but its nice to have options . I think everyone that's been waiting to get a Wonka will be very happy once they receive them as the game is awesome.
Perhaps but, they aren't even delivering on what was originally put forth when the game was first announced "3D Wonkatania Topper" so while I get you're not big on toppers JJPs failure to even live up to their own statements is not ideal...
Quoted from Freakyguy666:
Did that actually happen or is this story fiction?
Fiction, complete fiction... That's all that person knows how to do... I would love to know whatever JJP did to that poster... I'd also love to know why they're continually allowed to post in any JJP thread...
Anyone got a good list of replacement rubbers? Was going to take advantage of the Titan sale but Wonka isn't in their database yet so I was just thinking of doing the flippers and few other sizes that I'm 100% sure I know.
As a CE owner, I’m quite a bit pissed at this new topper for SE/LE... THIS is what should have been on the CE, what is JJP thinking...???? IMHO, JJP should be shipping one of these to every CE buyer at no charge.
Silly question perhaps but where are the play field magnets (minus the one I can see below the diverter) and in what modes are they active?
Quoted from Gumby510:
It was mentioned above the slings are 2 1/2 in and I assume the flipper rubber is the same standard size. I ordered some slings, flipper rubber and extra balls from Titan.
Are they 2" or 2.5" for the slings? The titan database says 2" but this post says 2.5?
Quoted from KingBW:
CE people can probably tell us. I "heard" that she did a lot of call outs for the CE. I could be wrong.
Her voice is everywhere on the CE, very impressed with the number of callouts and such. Really makes the CE pop. Now is it worth the huge premium over the LE? If I had to do it all over again, I'd say probably not but to JJPs credit, they didn't skimp on her voice usage in the CE code.
Quoted from jrawlinson_2000:
I do feel a tad annoyed, nay disappointed that the CE has additional call outs over the LE.
I am / was considering getting a Wonka LE, the CE is just too much to pay for a machine.
What ever happened to JJP just keeping the difference purely cosmetic?
So I may now hold off and get another machine.
Anyone know how many extra call outs there are? Does it make much of a difference?
I don't quite follow... How could anyone be annoyed? The CE costs more for a reason... I doubt she did those callouts for "free"... I think it's a really neat and creative way to differentiate the LE from the CE beyond just color/graphics.
I don't have a number on extra callouts but I hear her voice all the time, it's actually very well done.
FYI, I installed Titan rubber slings and apparently they are thicker than the stock ones as the ball immediately started getting stuck in the inner left outlane between the post and the back side of the left sling rubber. I was able to correct by trimming the post rubber down a bit that separates the outlanes on the left side. Anyone else running into this with Titan rubbers? I am just curious as I haven't seen this before and am just wondering if the tolerances are really that tight or if something else may be up?
Quoted from Rager170:
I just wanted to give a heads up on a mod that I bought that looks nothing like pictured.. Sorry to those modders selling this but it has to be mentioned.
This "pile of gumdrops" by ULEK Store... junk. In the picture, it looks like a picture perfect pile of gumdrops. It looks so realistic that I actually thought it might be a real pile of gumdrops. Well, I received this over the weekend and the quality of print is poor. It looks faded and completely unrealistic. Granted, its only $15 but seriously, save your money. It is not a good looking mod.
Here is what it claims to look like. I will send a pic later of what I received.
Same thing goes for the pile of Wonka Bars that goes by the Oompa Loompa camera person, ended up taking it off it looked so fake... It's just a picture laminated to hardboard...
I'm seriously considering installing the additional left post and then bringing the right outline posts down all the way in an effort to reduce the amount of balls lost to either side... Normally I wouldn't do this but I really want to get deeper in the game and best I can do to date is 3million... Anyone else taken those measures?
Quoted from Rager170:
In all seriousness, instead of permanently modding your game like that. Why not block off the outlanes to see progression if thats what you want to see?
I'm confused... I'm not permanently modding anything... The left side has a post and the right side has two different posts in slots designed to be adjusted up or down to either make it easier or harder for a ball to drain, it's part of the design of the game...???
Quoted from waynetrane:
The racism allegations are simply ridiculous.
A little bit of black humor about the final inspection of the production is immediately stamped by some people as racism.
For what reason? Because the contribution comes from Germany?
I can assure everyone that the post contains 0% racism from my side. If I offended anyone with that, I am truly sorry.
No, it's because what you said was racist. Period. If you don't want to be called a racist then don't say racist things... I'm not sure why that's so confusing to you... There was absolutely ZERO reason to inject the commentary you injected, again, ZERO. Please, do us all a favor and STFU...
Quoted from frobozz:
Nobody is suggesting removing foam on any switches other than the one at the back of the Wonka captive ball lane, which is spec'd to NOT HAVE FOAM. If it has foam, they grabbed the wrong standup switch at the factory.
My only question here is when you say it's spec'd not to have foam, where are you getting this specification from?
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