Quoted from jimbodeanny:

Hah, well my background is in film/TV production so I do have a trained eye for this kind of thing. But yes, the video is 60fps. It's definitely more noticeable in person. I'm sure part of the reason I noticed it was because I went from v1.33 to v1.37 and going from a perfectly smooth set of animations to the flawed ones in 1.37 was much more drastic than if I had done the update and not played it for a week.
If I'm feeling ambitious, maybe I'll make a side-by-side comparison. The "game over" screen is definitely one of the more noticeable animations.

Quoted from zaphX:

I found that during multiballs the magnets suck power away from the flippers.
I believe my Wonka flippers are +2 from default, will check in the AM.

Quoted from jimbodeanny:

Decided to try to make a better quality video, highlighting some of the animations that are noticeably choppy. I used a direct HDMI capture so the clips in the video are taken straight from the game and unaltered. Hopefully, it illustrates what I'm seeing and people are able to notice it a little more. Then again, maybe it's just normal and something only my OCD is noticing.
I'm hoping others can confirm whether or not the dropped frames in these animations are normal or not. I never noticed it when I had v1.33 installed, but then again maybe it was there and I never noticed.
Best to watch fullscreen at 1080p.

Quoted from RobbyIRL5:

Flippers +2 is definitely better. Tried it out tonight.

Quoted from jimbodeanny:

Consider yourself lucky because once you notice it, you can't unsee it I've seen a couple of other Wonkas with the newer software and they all have the same issue with the animations. As much as I like nearly all of the updates/changes, the dropped frames in the animations drive me nuts. I'm sure not everyone will notice. But I'll live with v1.33 for the time being.
If I'm feeling ambitious, maybe I'll make a side-by-side comparison video showing the difference. Although, I don't want to upset people once they see it the difference and notice it every time.

Quoted from SBrothers:

Off topic, but

Hey guys are you +2 on ALL FOUR flippers or just the lowers?
I had my lowers set higher than my uppers and I’m planning to dial them back to +2. I have my lowers at +4 which I’m finding a bit strong during single ball play since the update.

Quoted from jimbodeanny:

Consider yourself lucky because once you notice it, you can't unsee it I've seen a couple of other Wonkas with the newer software and they all have the same issue with the animations. As much as I like nearly all of the updates/changes, the dropped frames in the animations drive me nuts. I'm sure not everyone will notice. But I'll live with v1.33 for the time being.
If I'm feeling ambitious, maybe I'll make a side-by-side comparison video showing the difference. Although, I don't want to upset people once they see it the difference and notice it every time.

Quoted from TomN:

So I’ve watched your video several times and for the life of me cannot see it. I then watched your video while I looked at my machine at the same time and still cannot really see a real difference. (I’m on 1.33) None of this is during game play correct? Just during attract mode?

Quoted from delt31:

I hear you man - I hope I don't see it either haha
Interesting story on how I upgraded to the CE. Someone reached out who enjoyed my recent TPN podcast appearance (where he heard me talking about trading up). Really nice guy - made the trade super simple and now I have the CE. Thanks TPN ; )

Quoted from meSz:

Trying to help a neighbor out that has a Wonka. On the left outlane post, between outlane and left return lane, is there supposed to be a rubber ring? If so what size? Don’t see it in a manual.

Quoted from jimbodeanny:

Anyone else getting dropped frames in the animations (i.e. they're choppy/sluggish) after updating to v1.37? I'm noticing it particularly in the match "game over" screen as well as the bubbles during the high score screens in the attract mode. I've done the full install twice now but it acts the same. Game plays fine. It's only the animations that appear affected as the video clips are fine.
I was going to try going back to v1.33 but none of the older versions appear to be available.
Edit: I'll also add that the extra ball oompa loompa animation is noticeably choppy as well. It's almost as if the update affected the gpu performance. Very strange.
Edit: Just spoke to the KingPin games (where I bought my LE) and they're contacting JJP. Hopefully it's nothing major and is simple to resolve. I'll post in here when I have an update.

Quoted from fnosm:

Thank you for mentioning and following up on this. I noticed this too and just assumed there was nothing we could do about it. It definitely makes a difference. The choppy animation makes me realize how much I take the fit and finish of this game for granted.

Quoted from delt31:

I hear you man - I hope I don't see it either haha
Interesting story on how I upgraded to the CE. Someone reached out who enjoyed my recent TPN podcast appearance (where he heard me talking about trading up). Really nice guy - made the trade super simple and now I have the CE. Thanks TPN ; )

Quoted from Rager170:

Any chance you can share that 1.34 iso? I would like to keep it on file just in case I want to revert back.
This is exactly why I dont like updating right away. Figures the one time I do it quicker than normal..

Quoted from Phbooms:

I have the 1.35 image file if you want it

Quoted from Phbooms:

You should thank Zach not TPN for giving you a chance to go on his monoplized Flipinout empire advertising channel...

Quoted from Rager170:

Is 1.35 having those animation issues as well?

Quoted from delt31:

TPN is Zach so it's all the same haha. I actually already pm'd zach as it's a funny story. We have many offline conversations. Good entertainment for the pinball community.

Quoted from Rager170:

Any chance you can share that 1.34 iso? I would like to keep it on file just in case I want to revert back.
This is exactly why I dont like updating right away. Figures the one time I do it quicker than normal..

Quoted from Phbooms:

I have the 1.35 image file if you want it

Quoted from Rager170:

Is 1.35 having those animation issues as well?

Quoted from jimbodeanny:

v1.34 has the same issues with the animations as v1.37, but if you still want it, message me and I'll share it.

I haven't tested v1.35 yet as I don't have that ISO. Phbooms, would you mind sharing that ISO file with me so I can test it out?

Quoted from Phbooms:

lol! just jabbing at you softy snowflake since i know you can take it.

Quoted from jimbodeanny:

v1.34 has the same issues with the animations as v1.37, but if you still want it, message me and I'll share it.

I haven't tested v1.35 yet as I don't have that ISO. Phbooms, would you mind sharing that ISO file with me so I can test it out?

Quoted from delt31:

sure thing Ph - just replying as usual.
I just realized that for JJP - there is no sep code download by model. For example, I download the same code for my CE as others for their standard. Pretty cool how the machine knows....

Quoted from Rager170:

Please let us know what you find.. Very curious..

Quoted from Phbooms:

All in good fun my man! Personally i enjoyed the NWO podcast and would listen to another one but on different subject then TPN like a top 10 games discussion where you guys can disagree and agree on games you like.

Quoted from jimbodeanny:

For sure. So far, I've tested...
1.31 - runs perfect (as expected)
1.33 - runs perfect (as expected)
1.34 - choppy/stuttering animations
1.34RC - choppy/stuttering animations
1.37 - choppy/stuttering animations
Something clearly happened in the code during the 1.34 update(s). I'm not sure if any of the bugs/fixes corrected it, but I would guess not since the issue still remains in v1.37.
I'm currently capturing some stuff from v1.33 so I can do a side-by-side comparison video that will (hopefully) make things a little more obvious/noticeable for those folks that aren't seeing it. Stay tuned.

Quoted from chillme:

Haven't played Wonka in a couple of weeks, just too busy with customer projects. Needed a break today and figured I would play a game. I have gotten 4 golden tickets in the past, but could never finish kid multi-ball golden ticket. Today in my casual game, I got 4 golden tickets again, and even picked up the kid multi-ball ticket, but could not achieve the gobstopper ticket. One jackpot away from pure imagination. Fun 1/2 hour wasted, lol!!
love this game.

Quoted from jimbodeanny:

Here's a side-by-side comparison video I just made, showing in detail the difference between the normal smooth animations of v1.33 (and before) versus the choppy/stuttering/laggy animations of v1.37. Although this issue is noticeable in many (if not all) of the animations, I decided to just focus on the "game over" animation to make things simple and hopefully easier for people to see.
I highly recommend watching it full screen at full quality (1080p60fps). Also, be sure to watch the end where you can see the lag v1.37 has between screens.

Quoted from daveyvandy:

Yikes, that's pretty obvious. Thanks for making this video. I wonder if the results vary by motherboard? I know the model of the motherboard I have in my machine is different than earlier runs.. unfortunately my dad is borrowing my machine right now so I can't see what mine looks like or what version is running etc...

Quoted from jimbodeanny:

Here's a side-by-side comparison video I just made, showing in detail the difference between the normal smooth animations of v1.33 (and before) versus the choppy/stuttering/laggy animations of v1.37. Although this issue is noticeable in many (if not all) of the animations, I decided to just focus on the "game over" animation to make things simple and hopefully easier for people to see.
I highly recommend watching it full screen at full quality (1080p60fps). Also, be sure to watch the end where you can see the lag v1.37 has between screens.

Quoted from daveyvandy:

Yikes, that's pretty obvious. Thanks for making this video. I wonder if the results vary by motherboard? I know the model of the motherboard I have in my machine is different than earlier runs.. unfortunately my dad is borrowing my machine right now so I can't see what mine looks like or what version is running etc...

Quoted from delt31:

I remember with Dialed In - people were having stuttering but their CPU was older than the newer DIs which had no issues. Could be game by game on this one - CPU related.

Quoted from TomN:

I see that for sure. Pretty obvious. Does it impact actual game play at this point?

Quoted from Gogdog:

This stuttering is no where NEAR the DI stuttering issue (which they mostly fixed with an update, though I think they just reduced the framerate of the videos).

Quoted from jimbodeanny:

Here's a side-by-side comparison video I just made, showing in detail the difference between the normal smooth animations of v1.33 (and before) versus the choppy/stuttering/laggy animations of v1.37. Although this issue is noticeable in many (if not all) of the animations, I decided to just focus on the "game over" animation to make things simple and hopefully easier for people to see.
I highly recommend watching it full screen at full quality (1080p60fps). Also, be sure to watch the end where you can see the lag v1.37 has between screens.

Quoted from SBrothers:

Off topic, but

Hey guys are you +2 on ALL FOUR flippers or just the lowers?
I had my lowers set higher than my uppers and I’m planning to dial them back to +2. I have my lowers at +4 which I’m finding a bit strong during single ball play since the update.

Quoted from jimbodeanny:

For sure. So far, I've tested...
1.31 - runs perfect (as expected)
1.33 - runs perfect (as expected)
1.34 - choppy/stuttering animations
1.34RC - choppy/stuttering animations
1.37 - choppy/stuttering animations
Something clearly happened in the code during the 1.34 update(s). I'm not sure if any of the bugs/fixes corrected it, but I would guess not since the issue still remains in v1.37.
I'm currently capturing some stuff from v1.33 so I can do a side-by-side comparison video that will (hopefully) make things a little more obvious/noticeable for those folks that aren't seeing it. Stay tuned.

Quoted from PinballHaven:

With all the discussion on video issues I'm wondering if the wifi code enablement and related wifi adapters may be part of the issue; has anyone done the tests with wifi adapter installed vs. disabled on each version? Just a thought, sorry I don't have time right now to work on this but definitely want to see it resolved.

Quoted from Rager170:

Great, thanks for this!
Can you or anyone else share the 1.33 code? I want to bring mine back or at least have 1.33 on file...

Quoted from PinballHaven:

With all the discussion on video issues I'm wondering if the wifi code enablement and related wifi adapters may be part of the issue; has anyone done the tests with wifi adapter installed vs. disabled on each version? Just a thought, sorry I don't have time right now to work on this but definitely want to see it resolved.

Quoted from crobby:

One thing that I've noticed since I've been running 1.34 (and just now with 1.35) is that sometimes after I turn the machine on and just let it set for 5 min or so, the gobstopper hole will rote 90 degrees clockwise and remain in the 3 o'clock position. When I start a game, it then rotates 180 degrees to the 9 o'clock position (I have it set up super easy for the kids, so it normally starts with the gobstopper hole open) and tries to operate "normally" from there, but remains 90 degrees out of sync with where it should be. When I go to the device tests and spin it around to where it ought to be, it plays nice again. Still looking for more patterns to the behavior.

Quoted from crobby:

To close out my own issue. I talked with JJP support and after making sure the mech wasn't loose, I reseated all the opto connections, but that didn't help. What did solve my issue was doing a full install of the 1.37 software. Some form of software gremlins evidently.

Quoted from RobbyIRL5:

Flippers +2 is definitely better. Tried it out tonight.

Quoted from Jamwin:

Thanks for sharing this. Since you posted, I have been paying more attention during MB and agree, feel like flippers lose power. Question, is there any downside to going +2 on the flippers? Is it harder on flipper coils or anything like that? Just curious what the benefit/risk is before I adjust. When it comes to tinkering with things, I am limited so want to minimize any future fixes.
Btw, thanks for your WW videos, taught me how to play much quicker.