100% agree.

Put some time on a brand new se yesterday and man i love this pin. I can't explain why but its just fun fun fun and the newer code is a huge improvement over the prototypes i played. This game is gonna be my favorite jjp when all said and done.

What’s your best score? I have played it twice in a home environment and my second score was 899,000

Filled in that empty wall next to mine quite nicely : )

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There's two shots under the mini LCD.

I wonder if the CPU has enough "umpf" to do computer vision body detection? Wouldn't it be cool if it detected if you were leaning left or right and that could be used to select which lane is lit for points?

You'd see yourself moving on the LCD and the inserts changing based off your body. That would be SO COOL!

Mine is 1.1 million. Susan has GC at 1.6 million.

Raising the power to the vuk coils fixed my subway issue. Still have the ball trough problem, but i put a bit of the packing foam in the left side and now i can at least play it. Love this game! Shoots so good! This is my first jjp, and im amazed at the build quality. No scratches or dimpling, just a beautiful looking game

Anyone added a Shaker motor to their SE yet? I'm thinking about doing it, wondering where you all got your shaker motors. I see the JJP shaker motor on pinball life that says it works with Wonka. Anyone tried that one? I don't see any for sale directly on JJP's site, but maybe I'm not looking in the right places.

I was going to order one tonight from pinball life

Jack is going to be streaming from my place this Monday night

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I added that exact shaker from PBL. It works great! Simple to do, connection is right there.

I will say it is used fairly sparingly, at least so far. You get a bump when you hit the Gobstobber target, a super nice increasing rumble for Wonkavator Multiball, and some other effects in sync with multiball modes.

Meh. I'll wait for the LE to come out.

I purchased my shaker motors directly from JJP. $130/$135 if I remember correctly. $150 at pinball life

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Does the start button work in test? Start there. Check the connectors on the i/o board behind the LCD screen in the backbox.

Do you have credits on it and balls in the game? Is it on Freeplay? Loose or disconnected connectors?

Please check Tests - Switches - Matrixed, does it work there ? If no then check the switch, wiring, nearby connectors, etc. Do you hear it click when pushing the start button ?

Right number of balls in the game ?

LTG : )

Hey folks! Thanks for the quick replies on my issues. So here were my JJP Wonka setup issues. I hope this post helps anyone else getting this super fun pin.

1. Trough error
2. Start button not working
3. Main LCD not working
4. Tilt screw stripped and foam missing

Fix #1: I was going a little nuts on this one. I traced all connections, tested all switches/stuffs in menu. Everything seemed to be tight and right. So... I placed my pin in a temp place until I free up some room for a permanent spot. Turns out that a can light directly overhead was causing the light sensor on the back trough to activate, causing the switch error. Can light bulb removed and problem fixed. I only discovered this as I put my face right up to the back trough to see what was going on and the error stopped. smh.

Fix #2: Thanks to the replies and help on this one. I started at the switch test menu and confirmed Start was not operational. I then chased from the IO board all the way to the switch. I was really confused on this one as all looked good and nothing missing. I then took a better look at the switch (per flyhigh suggestion) and sure as crap I noticed that only one connection was on and the bottom connect was bent (how did I miss that!). I found the missing connection hidden under the run up tight to a zip tie. My guess is something pulled that wire on the other side of that zip hard enough for it to bend the switch metal, pull and hide under the run.

Fix #3: Thanks to folks posting on here that the LCD was on magnets. I just pulled the monitor off and plugged in the HDMI that came off.

Fix #4: There are two wood screws on the bottom of the tilt metal form holding it to the cab. One of the bottom ones with the ground? connector was stripped and the connection was loose. I moved it to the other screw which still had grip in the wood. Also, the packing foam was missing from the tilt (instructions said it was to be there).

Gameplay initial thoughts: Tons of STDMs. :/ More thoughts to come!

Thanks to everyone for all the help!

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It gets better

Things I’ve found:

- Keep it away from the slings at all costs. When it’s bouncing between slings you want to be banging upward like a madman to try and get it outta there.
- Backhanding the Gobstopper is hella safer than forehanding it.
- If you have a clean loop through the orbit (no pop contact) it is going SDTM. You absolutely have to nudge on the way out.

It’s a very difficult game but definitely rewarding and fun!

Did you try lowering the power on them a little ?

LTG : )

That would be cheating! They are aggro by design (I assume) and I want to learn to defeat that.

How bout a topper???

CE is supposed to get one!

Mine out of the box were much softer than they were factory on my pirates (my potc slings are a mutha).

Yeah POTC slings are fierce but I leave those at default also. I want to retain the designer’s vision.

Hey guys, check this out !!!!

What are the odds!!???

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I agree and typically do the same which I thought was odd that you said your Wonka slings are brutal because mine are relatively soft. Other owners?

Agree, and I feel this is the biggest "what the heck" of the pin. Not so for myself as I see it coming, but the kids just look at me with the "seriously" face.

Personal review
Got wonka Friday and after playing for around 4hr i must say it's one hell of a game it flows great plenty of shots love the theme, call outs and the announcer goes perfect with the theme everything flows and compliments each other. I personally think its pretty deep game with plenty to do the more you play the more little things you discover I can only imagine what else can come with more updates Wonka is built like a tank and was package very well great job by the jjp team. Wonka is much more than any stern premium to be honest but that's my opinion.
CONS- I notice its little dark when playing in the dark room/lights off but I got some backboard lights/through lights coming in to help that. Also I cant get Gobstopper subway to work properly it gets stuck and it takes a ball search to help push the ball all the way to the vaulk up shot I crank the setting to 22 and still does it often (little help)

Did you change both coils? That fixed mine

Gobstopper lock realease is at 22
Gobstopper vuk kicker is at 20
But I still get the same problem, I notice theres a slight lip on the sub vaulk might need to bend it to allow the ball to complete its flow Not sure yet, but I notice it works after it goes in search mode which sucks..

These are the texts back from jjp to my distributor on the fix for it.

Have him pull the assembly for the Gobstopper subway VUK and check the length of the coil sleeve used for that side popper that feeds the VUK.

It should not protrude into the subway very far (just enough to hold the coil in place). If it sticks out an 1/8” or more, he should trim the excess.

We saw some bad sleeves at the factory that stick out too far, causing the ball to bounce around a bit at the side popper and not sit on the microswitch there properly.

If the side popper is actually kicking the ball and not getting it into the VUK shaft, a little coil strength adjustment or slight bend on the metal trough lip may be in order.

They aren’t brutal due to power - they pop appropriately - they are brutal because they cause outlane drains so often!

Kind of awful that this needs to be done with a brand new pinball.

Agreed. I'm all for a few kinks here and there on a new machine, but we're talking about removing a mech and needing to use a file and razor knife for Christ's sake!

Good thing I'm patient and willing to wait for an LE. Let the early adopters find all the flaws, report back to JJP, then JJP fixes everything before I get mine!

Not really, I enjoy tinkering with the games. Jjp games are much more intricate so naturally it will be more involved to fix. Took me 15 minutes to fix it. If i had to do it again, half the time.

OMG the humanity! Charles Barkly said It"s Turrible just turrible

I'm getting an issue when shooting into the right saucer. It just keeps doing this (in the video) and eventually I have to nudge it hard enough for something to register. It usually ends up tilting because it takes a lot of force.

Check the coil underneath, might have a loose connection or broken wire. Or something underneath is causing the Hangup if the ball eventually fires out.

It doesn't do it all the time, maybe 20%.

And btw, the game is fantastic, you will love it. You really need to play it in a home environment where you can hear the call outs, appreciate the light show and feel the flow. It’s classic Lawlor, great flowing ramp shots. The modes are really well done and I think it integrates well. Kid Multiball, Oompa Loompa odyssey, lots of cool stuff. I don’t get the disappointment I hear from some people. There are also no flipper power issues. The game has the light show of woz and shoots like DI.

That might be the best description of this game I've heard.

How do you SE owners view the lack of the Wonkavator? Is it really an issue ?

I have not missed it! But then again I have not played one with the Wonkavator. You still get wonkavator multiball. The only thing I notice is a dark zone in the upper left side. Going to add some light here later.

2k in my back pocket makes me forget real fast.

not an issue at all. the feature is cool, yes, but there are no tears for lack of the wonkavator lock. im too busy smiling and laughing when playing

Yeah, it's dark back there...fixed that...