Quoted from jetmechinnc:

I was wondering if anyone here has played the new stern avengers pin and can honestly compare it to to the “fun” factor of this pin. Because in the end that is what matters to me most. Only JJP pin I ever played was my buddy’s Wizard of Oz red ruby. It still has the stock light boards , and yes, it has issues. But it is a cool , different pin compared to his other Williams , Bally, Gottlieb, Atari, and Sterns.
I have on order an avengers premium, but getting a little frustrated by the delays in production (pushed back possibly as much as 5 weeks) as well as issues people are having with their Stern LEs. If I cancel my order, I’m out $1k, can’t do that, but I can change my order at no extra fee. My wife likes the theme of Willy Wonka and I was thinking of changing to this pin if they have it in stock and Dan muster up the extra cash.
What are your thoughts? I know they are completely different , but the theme for both of these is what my wife likes. I’d like a GNR, but my wife cancelled that idea, course the distributor doesn’t have that title in stock anyway yet.

Quoted from Lermods:

I have an avengers LE, which I like a lot. But wonka is a better game and has a lot more to offer.

Quoted from jetmechinnc:

Well from the responses, which I appreciate, it sounds like I need to call and see if they have one in stock and change my order.

Quoted from jetmechinnc:

I was wondering if anyone here has played the new stern avengers pin and can honestly compare it to to the “fun” factor of this pin. Because in the end that is what matters to me most. Only JJP pin I ever played was my buddy’s Wizard of Oz red ruby. It still has the stock light boards , and yes, it has issues. But it is a cool , different pin compared to his other Williams , Bally, Gottlieb, Atari, and Sterns.
I have on order an avengers premium, but getting a little frustrated by the delays in production (pushed back possibly as much as 5 weeks) as well as issues people are having with their Stern LEs. If I cancel my order, I’m out $1k, can’t do that, but I can change my order at no extra fee. My wife likes the theme of Willy Wonka and I was thinking of changing to this pin if they have it in stock and Dan muster up the extra cash.
What are your thoughts? I know they are completely different , but the theme for both of these is what my wife likes. I’d like a GNR, but my wife cancelled that idea, course the distributor doesn’t have that title in stock anyway yet.

Quoted from jetmechinnc:

Well from the responses, which I appreciate, it sounds like I need to call and see if they have one in stock and change my order.

Quoted from NightTrain:

You may have a hard time finding an LE. I had to call a lot of distributors to finally find one. Standards and CEs are readily available though.

Quoted from NightTrain:

You may have a hard time finding an LE. I had to call a lot of distributors to finally find one. Standards and CEs are readily available though.

Quoted from jetmechinnc:

Ended up buying the distributor’s last Wonka LE that I had ordered my avengers premium from!! Thankful as well, could not afford the CE even if I wanted to.

Quoted from cooked71:

Whats the shot to the Computer? One of the ones under Wonkavision?

Quoted from Pinballomatic:

Yes the tv shot can award computer awards too.

Quoted from cooked71:

So the TV shot is the one to the left of the ""!"" saucer shot?

Quoted from teddyb73:

Mike from pinballs.com in Connecticut has them also. That is where I got my LE. Mike is the man!

Quoted from cooked71:

So the TV shot is the one to the left of the ""!"" saucer shot?

Quoted from SBrothers:

Following up on this...
Anyone have any idea as to what the various light patterns mean for the dashed inserts in front of the camera ramp?

Quoted from Rager170:

Also, does anyone know when the camera takes a picture? I cant seem to time it..

Quoted from frobozz:

When the red light on the top of the camera is on, of course!

Quoted from frobozz:

Oh, more specifically it's when you shoot it up the ramp to the left of the camera, when the light is on. You need to go from pressing the right flipper button, to handstand position, pretty quickly!

Quoted from Gasoline:

After you trigger the camera, I wish they had a warning/countdown timer on the screen to let you know your picture is going to be taken in order to let you prepare. But I guess that's part of the humor. Lot's of quirky/bad pictures taken.

Quoted from Rager170:

Thats my distributor also. Hes a good guy. Hes JJP's largest distributor.

Quoted from SBrothers:

Following up on this...
Anyone have any idea as to what the various light patterns mean for the dashed inserts in front of the camera ramp?

Quoted from Rager170:

I agree. But all my pictures look exactly the same. Me looking down.

Quoted from slippifishi:

I'm sure there is a setting that lets you adjust the frequency of the camera photos?
I believe that by default/with default settings, when you first start a game, the SECOND shot to the camera ramp will take a picture, and I'm pretty sure the frequency beyond that is predictable (ie maybe every 5 shots or something?). In addition to the red light on the oompah loompah camera, on the LE at least (and presumably CE) the lights on the wonkavator mechanism will turn bright white as soon as the ball enters the ramp and it's going to take a photo, presumably to act as some kind of makeshift flash - you can definitely use this in time to pull a face at the camera.

Quoted from teddyb73:

Mike let me walk through his warehouse. If you're in the market for an LE. Trust me he's got plenty of them.

Quoted from SBrothers:

Anyone have any idea as to what the various light patterns mean for the dashed inserts in front of the camera ramp?

Quoted from Rager170:

Do you live in CT?

Quoted from jetmechinnc:

Ended up buying the distributor’s last Wonka LE that I had ordered my avengers premium from!! Thankful as well, could not afford the CE even if I wanted to.

Quoted from teddyb73:

No. I live in Doylestown PA. About 2 hours and 45 mins away from Mike's place.

Quoted from romulusx:

Let us all know what you think after you set it and played for awhile.

Quoted from jetmechinnc:

Will do! Excited about getting this Pin and seeing the light show on this game in person. The virtual “check” hopefully will clear tomorrow morning and then they can get shipment going.

Quoted from ceterumnet:

Question regarding the left kickback: Does it sometimes time the ball kickback incorrectly if the ball is rolling too fast or too slow? I think about 10-20% of the time that happens for me. I've played with the timing and power in the menu a bit, and that seemed to help. But I wanted to see if this is normal or not.
Thoughts?

Quoted from ceterumnet:

Question regarding the left kickback: Does it sometimes time the ball kickback incorrectly if the ball is rolling too fast or too slow? I think about 10-20% of the time that happens for me. I've played with the timing and power in the menu a bit, and that seemed to help. But I wanted to see if this is normal or not.
Thoughts?

Quoted from frobozz:

They're often blinking to tell you that you should shoot the ramp now for whatever mode you're in. But when they're just sitting there red, it's an indication of how close you are to the next time a ramp shot will take your picture. And as someone else mentioned, there are adjustments for that in Game settings, under Wonkavision Camera.

Quoted from jetmechinnc:

I was wondering if anyone here has played the new stern avengers pin and can honestly compare it to to the “fun” factor of this pin. Because in the end that is what matters to me most. Only JJP pin I ever played was my buddy’s Wizard of Oz red ruby. It still has the stock light boards , and yes, it has issues. But it is a cool , different pin compared to his other Williams , Bally, Gottlieb, Atari, and Sterns.
I have on order an avengers premium, but getting a little frustrated by the delays in production (pushed back possibly as much as 5 weeks) as well as issues people are having with their Stern LEs. If I cancel my order, I’m out $1k, can’t do that, but I can change my order at no extra fee. My wife likes the theme of Willy Wonka and I was thinking of changing to this pin if they have it in stock and Dan muster up the extra cash.
What are your thoughts? I know they are completely different , but the theme for both of these is what my wife likes. I’d like a GNR, but my wife cancelled that idea, course the distributor doesn’t have that title in stock anyway yet.

Quoted from ceterumnet:

Question regarding the left kickback: Does it sometimes time the ball kickback incorrectly if the ball is rolling too fast or too slow? I think about 10-20% of the time that happens for me. I've played with the timing and power in the menu a bit, and that seemed to help. But I wanted to see if this is normal or not.
Thoughts?

Quoted from Rager170:

Yes. I have changed the settings for timing and power. I had the same problem.

Quoted from Pinballomatic:

In addition there is a setting for how aggressive it is about handling a missed kickback -[quoted image]

Quoted from teddyb73:

What do you guys think? Is Wonka a better pin than Elvira House of Horrors? I sold my House of Horrors to get Wonka and I don't regret it.

Quoted from NightTrain:

Just set up my new Wonka LE. The left ramp diverted that gives the ball to the upper left flipper is giving me an issue. It activates but does not send the ball to the flipper. Like it’s not coming down far enough.
Before I go tearing things apart, I figured I’d ask if anyone else has come across this.

Quoted from NightTrain:

Just set up my new Wonka LE. The left ramp diverted that gives the ball to the upper left flipper is giving me an issue. It activates but does not send the ball to the flipper. Like it’s not coming down far enough.
Before I go tearing things apart, I figured I’d ask if anyone else has come across this.

Quoted from Pinballomatic:

First question - what software version are you running? Open coin door hit black button once, look bottom right corner of the monitor. For that diverter behavior it very much matters.