Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory (CE)
Jersey Jack, 2019
Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory (LE)
Jersey Jack, 2019
Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory (Standard)
Jersey Jack, 2019Quoted from Spaghetti73:I don't know if it is a real problem, but often when I throw the right flip towards the gobstopper, even if the ball is thrown perfectly towards the hole, it does not enter ... does it happen to you too? let's say that about half of the perfect shots don't enter , only with the right flip.
You’ll have better luck back handing with the left flipper
Quoted from romulusx:You’ll have better luck back handing with the left flipper
yes I already use the technique of the left flip I wanted to understand if from the right it is my handicap / problem or it is more or less normal to miss some direct hit
Quoted from Spaghetti73:yes I already use the technique of the left flip I wanted to understand if from the right it is my handicap / problem or it is more or less normal to miss some direct hit
I would say it’s normal
Quoted from Spaghetti73:I don't know if it is a real problem, but often when I throw the right flip towards the gobstopper, even if the ball is thrown perfectly towards the hole, it does not enter ... does it happen to you too? let's say that about half of the perfect shots don't enter , only with the right flip.
Every Wonka machine I've played behaved this way so I'm thinking it's intentional.
I consider it a long shot if I attempt the hole from the right flipper, but can do it 100% repeatably from a cradled left flipper.
So I pulled my game out from where it sits to take the glass off and try to install game blades (of course ruined another set, impossible for me without taking out the playfield), but anyways lol, I saw once under direct light that the game has some pretty heavy ball trails from where the ball leaves the wireforms to where the flippers are. Only these lanes, no trails on the other lanes. I was surprised by this since my game is newer, about 3-400 plays and I have waxed it 2 or 3 times already and replaced balls.
Any thoughts on this? Was thinking it could be from the spin the ball has leaving the wireforms?
I can't say I've noticed significant wear (just under 1000 games), but truth be told I don't really know what to look for 
Certainly seen a lot more dirt from those lanes, but it came away easily enough with a wipe and I always put it down to them naturally getting a lot more traffic - two easy(?) ramps will lead to that left wireform...
Do you have cliffy protectors on the lane rollovers? I do, and they may be taking some of the momentum from the ball?
Quoted from slippifishi:I can't say I've noticed significant wear (just under 1000 games), but truth be told I don't really know what to look for Certainly seen a lot more dirt from those lanes, but it came away easily enough with a wipe and I always put it down to them naturally getting a lot more traffic - two easy(?) ramps will lead to that left wireform...
Do you have cliffy protectors on the lane rollovers? I do, and they may be taking some of the momentum from the ball?
I have them but not installed. Was just curious really if anyone else noticed this. They are worse on my WW which has low plays than any other game I own..
Quoted from Rager170:So I pulled my game out from where it sits to take the glass off and try to install game blades (of course ruined another set, impossible for me without taking out the playfield),
You need these:
https://www.pinballlife.com/interior-cabinet-protector-blade-set.html
Common for ball trails from wire form exit to flippers... it's not wear just grime and dirt with small metal particles from the wire forms. The ramps get hit alot especially the center and left. They wipe clean very easily but if your worried put mylar down . Its happens less on powder coated wire forms but still gets dirty in that area. This is the most common place I wipe down on my games.
Quoted from bigd1979:Common for ball trails from wire form exit to flippers... it's not wear just grime and dirt with small metal particles from the wire forms. The ramps get hit alot especially the center and left. They wipe clean very easily but if your worried put mylar down . Its happens less on powder coated wire forms but still gets dirty in that area. This is the most common place I wipe down on my games.
I clean with Novus 1 whenever I see ball trails, or any time I remove the glass for any other reason. I wax every 500 games or so and I try to apply it heavily in these trail-heavy areas.
Quoted from bigd1979:Common for ball trails from wire form exit to flippers... it's not wear just grime and dirt with small metal particles from the wire forms. The ramps get hit alot especially the center and left. They wipe clean very easily but if your worried put mylar down . Its happens less on powder coated wire forms but still gets dirty in that area. This is the most common place I wipe down on my games.
Thanks. I did notice that some wiped away but definitely not all of it. I didnt do a good cleaning though and its due before too long.
Know that this is common is good to know. Maybe because this game uses those ramps a real lot, shows more of this.
Quoted from zaphX:I clean with Novus 1 whenever I see ball trails, or any time I remove the glass for any other reason. I wax every 500 games or so and I try to apply it heavily in these trail-heavy areas.
I use novus 1 to clean before waxing also.
So my waxing at every 150 plays is overkill??? Please say yes haha.
Quoted from zaphX:Hell I think my_ waxing at 500 is overkill.
I hate seeing the micro scratches and ... ball trails. But to be honest, even waxing at 150 pays isnt stopping them. Guess its just a part of pinball.
Quoted from Rager170:I hate seeing the micro scratches and ... ball trails. But to be honest, even waxing at 150 pays isnt stopping them. Guess its just a part of pinball.
I try to embrace the imperfection and remember the gameplay is the main point. Backup playfields can always be purchased if you want.
Quoted from zaphX:I try to embrace the imperfection and remember the gameplay is the main point. Backup playfields can always be purchased if you want.
You are correct 100%. When I had my pinball area built, I had it so that there are no lights over the playfields (no glare). So, this also leads to never seeing the imperfections until I move them out for maintenance. Thats when im like "oohh man, look at all these marks!" ha
Quoted from zaphX:I try to embrace the imperfection and remember the gameplay is the main point. Backup playfields can always be purchased if you want.
PS, my Wonka games are improving thanks to your nudging tips.. Nowhere near most of you but at least last night i was almost consistantly getting over 1mm.
So thanks for that!
Also, I find I get much more points by shooting the spinner vs. going for the gum targets.
Quoted from zaphX:I clean with Novus 1 whenever I see ball trails, or any time I remove the glass for any other reason. I wax every 500 games or so and I try to apply it heavily in these trail-heavy areas.
Novus2 and what was the name of that wax you recommended?
Quoted from Rager170:PS, my Wonka games are improving thanks to your nudging tips.. Nowhere near most of you but at least last night i was almost consistantly getting over 1mm.
So thanks for that!
Also, I find I get much more points by shooting the spinner vs. going for the gum targets.
Spinner,chocolate bars and multiplyers
Quoted from romulusx:Novus2 and what was the name of that wax you recommended?
https://www.amazon.com/P21S-12700W-Carnauba-Wax/dp/B002LOP5E4
Quoted from romulusx:Novus2 and what was the name of that wax you recommended?
Novus 2 is abrasive. Dont use that for cleaning.
P21 is great. I use that as well. A little goes a looooong way.
Just curious... On your Wonka, where does the ball end up after being rescued by the kickback? Does it go into the GUM targets? Spinner? Somewhere else?
Did you have to tweak the kickback settings to achieve the desired location?
Quoted from Rager170:Novus 2 is abrasive. Dont use that for cleaning.
P21 is great. I use that as well. A little goes a looooong way.
I’ve always used Novus 1 for quick clean so Ive be doing it right.
Quoted from rrosenhouse:Just curious... On your Wonka, where does the ball end up after being rescued by the kickback? Does it go into the GUM targets? Spinner? Somewhere else?
Did you have to tweak the kickback settings to achieve the desired location?
It varies depending on the speed it enters the outlane. More often than not mine goes to spinner lane.
I am having an issue with the side coil at the go stopper hole. It fires randomly for awhile. It affects gameplay. I checked the switch arm and welds. All looks good and tests fine. I even changed the coil but no luck. Has anyone else experienced this issue. Jjp is not being responsive. Thanks for the help.
Quoted from Rager170:Novus 2 is abrasive. Dont use that for cleaning.
P21 is great. I use that as well. A little goes a looooong way.
P21 is awesome. No white residue to clean off of star post or wood railing.
Quoted from romulusx:Anybody watch the Buffalo Pinball stream with Keith Johnson?Did he talk about the making or possible new programming of Wonka?
JJP will never talk about unreleased anything every again. We won't get previews and they won't get early feedback.
Quoted from Reznnate:JJP will never talk about unreleased anything every again. We won't get previews and they won't get early feedback.
I was just meaning did he talk about making the game and why they took the approach they did?
Quoted from romulusx:I was just meaning did he talk about making the game and why they took the approach they did?
Keefer isn't lead on Wonka, Joe Katz is, though Keefer did talk about his general philosophy to making a game related to theme integration, rules, etc...the interview is a good one and pretty entertaining as well.
In my mind that's the one thing besides the stupid factory plastic that should have been changed in design stage!
When they removed Wonkavator they should have changed lighting,and the factory mod is just wrong on all of them.
The way to correct lighting is with Hookedonpinball rob led kit.There are two different approaches to fixing factory issue one is by mezal mods which is the one I chose
Quoted from romulusx:In my mind that's the one thing besides the stupid factory plastic that should have been changed in design stage!
When they removed Wonkavator they should have changed lighting,and the factory mod is just wrong on all of them.
The way to correct lighting is with Hookedonpinball rob led kit.There are two different approaches to fixing factory issue one is by mezal mods which is the one I chose
Ive never understood what that "factory" is representing..
Quoted from Rager170:Ive never understood what that "factory" is representing..
It's literally the entrance to the chocolate factory. It's depicted when Willy comes out with his walk/somersault, and everyone enters through it.
It may not look like a factory, but it does match the movie's depiction.
Quoted from Rager170:Ive never understood what that "factory" is representing..
Dude watch the original movie,you’ll dig it!
Who in the club has installed pinstadiums? How do you like them, and did it take away from any of the game's awesome lightshow?
Quoted from Pinash:Who in the club has installed pinstadiums? How do you like them, and did it take away from any of the game's awesome lightshow?
They are a must and only add to the light show. I put on a pure blue with about 20 to 50% warm white depending on the time of day. It looks pretty awesome when all the lights are out in the room. Especially when you get wonkavator going the flashers look awesome. I found that the game without the pin stadiums was far too dark for my taste. There's some games that the pin stadiums do not do much for, this game is not one of them.
Quoted from romulusx:Dude watch the original movie,you’ll dig it!
Ummnn ive watched it more than you can ever imagine. I see no resemblance to anything from that movie with the factory in the game.
Quoted from zaphX:It's literally the entrance to the chocolate factory. It's depicted when Willy comes out with his walk/somersault, and everyone enters through it.
It may not look like a factory, but it does match the movie's depiction.
Ill have to take a better look. Didnt realize it was for the outside of the factory.
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Nice find!
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Oh, ok I totally see it now! I was looking at it as Top Down view and never understood it. I feel like I dont see that side of it when playing..
Quoted from Rager170:Oh, ok I totally see it now! I was looking at it as Top Down view and never understood it. I feel like I dont see that side of it when playing..
Even funnier, it always looked like some sort of envelope to me haha.
My first post to this forum. I have read all 102 pages and am now ready to post! I got a CE delivered in mid March (perfect timing). The whole family was already a fan of the movie and we absolutely love this pin. Two questions:
1.) What is a good pinball basics video?
2.) Is there a good how-to video on specific strategies for WW? I have read a lot, but I feel like seeing it happen in real time along with explanations would help most. I am stuck around 5M, just mashing away.
3.) We purchased Wonka sight and play unseen. I am tempted to buy one more JJ machine. If we love Wonka, what pin best aligns regardless of price? WOZ YBR, Pirates LE or DI LE. Our kids are 6 and 9. I know this is a tough one to answer but I really appreciate it.
Quoted from Noma2017:My first post to this forum. I have read all 102 pages and am now ready to post! I got a CE delivered in mid March (perfect timing). The whole family was already a fan of the movie and we absolutely love this pin. Two questions:
1.) What is a good pinball basics video?
2.) Is there a good how-to video on specific strategies for WW? I have read a lot, but I feel like seeing it happen in real time along with explanations would help most. I am stuck around 5M, just mashing away.
3.) We purchased Wonka sight and play unseen. I am tempted to buy one more JJ machine. If we love Wonka, what pin best aligns regardless of price? WOZ YBR, Pirates LE or DI LE. Our kids are 6 and 9. I know this is a tough one to answer but I really appreciate it.
Dialed In LE
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