It's like Deja Vu all over again.

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Why the popcorn? Did I miss something?

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/willing-to-trade-my-mople-for-the-right-deal

Its a choice some of you guys make... do I try to stir things up or not? Its a choice and some choose to create trouble. I hope this is not where some of you are trying to take this...

All I see here is a simple, harmless trade post. If interested contact him, if not move on.

Yeah I think the prior threads have let the steam off - it's probably a safe time to start offering up NIB METLE's without starting a war.

I agree with tony. Enough already. Are we adults here or kids?

Good luck Jim.

Put the FS/FT offer in the freaking Market if you dont want comments. (this is probably the 5000th time this has been posted on pinside)

Perhaps some people have these threads just to attract the drama as they are bored and need something to liven up their day.

Its a simple trade post, I see no drama... It doesn't matter where its posted its still a choice whether or not to make it into something its not. The drama will come only from those that choose to make it into that. Please make the right choice... is this really too much to ask?

I have a HEP (Hilton Enigma Pinballs) restored FishTales I will trade straight up for your MOPLE.

Uh...sensitive much?

It is the ultimate in irony to see you write about "stirring things up" and "create trouble" when replying to my post, which, to remind you, simply said:

"It's like Deja Vu all over again"

Did he not post this exact thread before? Why yes, yes he did! Hell, there's even a link to it in this thread!

That's what I was referring to when I said "It's like Deja Vu all over again". Seems pretty harmless to me.

So whose the one here that is "stirring things up"? Creating trouble? Being overly sensitive? Drama queen? Defender of something that doesn't need defending?

He's commenting on... the first rule of the site

Rule number one: be nice!
It's really simple, when you're on the Pinsde, try to be nice to others and you'll find that they'll generally be nice to you to.

Keep your contributions civil, tasteful and relevant (on the subject of pinball). The aim of Pinside.com: to provide the best place on the web to talk pinball!

The post in question really don't help support that ideal...

Bringing up the past post doesn't seem like a good idea to me. It was a train wreck that Pinside would like to forget it. Or at least I hope most of us would. No harm meant in what I said just trying to derail any further drama... let's all smile and enjoy the beautiful sunshine!

Good luck with the trade Jim...

Fair enough Tony!

you interested OP?

Did you PM him or call him? By what I read it sounds like you should call him, meet him at A-Town or PM him... that is if your serious.

Jims a good guy. He helped me out big time recently. Good luck with the trade Jim.

Great Guy Goodluck Jim!!

I thought when I clicked on this, it was going to be Teekee's thread. But it wasn't. But I knew if he didn't start it, he wouldn't be far behind.

He's now the self-appointed Pinside Ethics Police....lol

Mople? Really?

Why the hell are you interjecting in my trade offer? This does not concern you. Are you making an offer? If not, then GTFO.

Isn't that what you are always preaching? 'If it does not concern you then don't post'. You should practice a little what you are always saying TeeKee.

back to the topic at hand... OP, are you interested in my top shelf restored FishTales? Clearcoated pf, LED'd, basically no cab fade (original cab and not some crappy redecal), awesome powder everywhere, won for best in show at MGC2013, SigmaDMD installed. Probably one of the nicest FTales on the planet. I am thinking straight up would be a fair trade.

The OP requested direct contact, and he's probably not monitoring the thread with the Allentown show going on. TeeKee gave you great advice to PM, and preferably call, as that is OP's preferred method of contact.

Of course I can also save you some time and say "NO!", but you should contact OP directly to get that answer.

Just offering helpful advice but it seems you have a little too much anger inside... smile and enjoy the day!

Jim, the OP, is a fair guy.I have spoken with him in the past.If this offer bothers you, then either find another post to contribute to, or move on.
Just sayin.........

LOL

That was a bad ass looking game

I think this post wins the "Most Acronyms in a Title" award on Pinside.

thanks. Just spoke with the OP and unfortunately he values his MOPLE at a 20% markup but is unwilling to value my FT as a 20% markup also... Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

I guess it was wishful thinking that the price hype would be equal both ways.

I probably should really put a value of over 8k on my FT anyway. Over 3k in parts, plus over 250 hours in labor and I am probably still underselling my work if I just valued it at $20 per hour (5k in labor). Meh... I will just wait an play MET after it is actually out and see if I even like it I suppose.

Jim is a fair guy and always upfront and honest.

My dealings with Jim have been nothing but positive as well. If you hear it from this many people, there must be something to it.

There's a huge difference between "markup" and going rate. I think you are confusing the two. MOPLE is going for a minimum of $9k right now. Not sure what OP is thinking in terms of price - maybe he is marking up 20% over $9k, in which case it would be a markup. Sorry just seen too many people the last few weeks seemingly wanting to get someone's METLE at cost or just a few hundred more. Unfortunately that's not the going rate.

Fatrain is selling one for less than that, shipped.

Would you prefer a NAPPLE?

I would trade you a BBB for a METLE, but not a Mople...also only if you can get that METLE on a pallet and shipped today...can you do that for a brutha?!

Sorry but when a Distributor is selling a game before he even has it in his hands for WELL over MSRP, that is called a markup.

In conjunction, if you want to take the distributor thing out of the equation in order to talk about markup vs going rate>>I know of the vast majority of METLE owners paid around $7200 delivered
so as far as I am concerned that is the going rate. After games are physically delivered and in peoples hands then we can see what the going rate is. Until games are in homes then anyone selling for more than MSRP is marking them up.

I was not confusing anything.

So msrp+ship is $7200 give or take.

This being ForTrade, what is the trade value being offered, op?

edit-oh wait, if he is a distrib he can't put prices on here....

re-edit- although if its not for sale perhaps Stern rules dont apply?

Im pretty sure he isn't a stern distributor. Last guy that said that took a bunch of crap for it. And I also believe the game was listed in the market at one point for 8800, but it was removed. I cant be positive though.

Gotcha, if the op could clarify that would be great.

edit-nevermind, its in the other thread

He just sold it

Wow some people here get really bent out of shape whenever anyone implies that fishing for suckers is not the inviolable primary purpose of Pinside

There are a lot of sharks swimming in the pinball waters-- no question about it. However, there are a lot of great people too! Seek those people out and only deal with them. That's the ticket to happiness in the pinball hobby. I haven't had one sour transaction on either the buying or selling end. Anyone could get duped, I suppose, but you minimize your chances when you know who you're dealing with or use your "Spidey sense" when you don't know who your dealing with.

Jim is a collector and a player. He is a damn good guy. You guys that are always on here giving him a rough time for OFFERING up games that others may want really are usually out of line and IMO it's so damn old. If you don't like what someone offers simply walk on. He is not a Shark, or a demon in this hobby. He puts up his own money to get games. He pays for them in full. If he wants to offer them up for trade WHO CARES?
Quit with the "it's ruining the hobby" stuff. It is not and that is a little dramatic. Metallica LE was in serious demand and that's that.
Sorry but, this crap is getting old. Now..... GLWT Jim. Someone will appreciate it when they get the LE they want and you want to let go of. End of story.

Yeah, he's no Teekee!!! Jim's one of the good guys!

I might add too. Again. I couple months ago when I needed to quickly dump nearly my entire collection Jim wrote me just to say if I wanted to talk about it let him know. Well, I made the choice to say yes. He made me a very fair offer and took a chance buying my games and a friends games. He sent me a VERY LARGE check over night and the games did not get picked up for another 3 weeks at which he said "play the crap out of them and enjoy while they are there". I did. then I wrapped them in the garage and they were picked up. One of them was my New HULK which I know he did not make any money on. In the end their was not that much room for mark up. Sure, he probably made a little cash out of it but, look what he did for me when I needed to move them quickly.
So back off and let it go already. I have met some pinheads that are real winners and some that are not. Throw the dirt on the ones that are not. And posting conversations you had with someone about deals online is shady in it's own right. PM people already.
Jim is cool. Teekee is cool. Ain't no shame in flippin' thru games wether they are the beat cheap pins or the higher-end or new pins. To each their own.

MSRP for METLE was $7595 plus shipping. The $7200 shipped was the preorder discounted price by some distributors. Many went for MSRP, not the discounted price.

Teekee gets you guys going on here. I admit that. I assure you he isn't so bad in person or on the phone. He is a good guy too. Similar boat as Jim. Teekee and I made a very fair deal for my AFM and his NIB BIBLE last fall. I was happy.
Again, just chill out guys. If it's not your deal than why do you care? That is one thing that has REALLY changed about pinside this past year is so many NEGATIVE comments from the same a holes on every FS or FT thread. Anyway, I've said my peace. So peace out.