I'm in as well.
We cant wait. Thanks a million for this mod and all your hard work on this guys. I cant tell you how bad I want this mod!!
I'm am willing to take that chance also. He is the only person on this site I have ignored...thanks goodness....for the option...
Quoted from ecurtz:
I think the harnesses are holding everything up. They're looking for a manufacturer that can do a bunch at once for a reasonable cost. Until then they're being hand built and they are pretty complex, so...
I have seen one of these 15 kits from pinbits installed and played it a ton. it's amazing!! It makes the machine a piece of art, just watching the light show is soothing and stimulating. I will say that no harness is necessary. The units can be mounted directly to the bottom of the Playfield, all the hardware is provided in the kit. Pinbits included quite a bit in the kit. In comparing the pinbits model from Eli with the pre-production test models, it's much more compact and elegant in design and thus easier to mount, there are actually options on where to mount the units. The pinbit's unit look a lot like the finished models under the LE's.
This is the best pinball mod I have ever seen by far!! THANK YOU ELI!!
Quoted from 30FathomDave:
Just curious for those who have completed the installation: about how long did it take? I'm looking forward to adding this to my game, but it looks pretty time-consuming.
I've seen this kit from shipping container to install. The finished product is simply breathtaking . Takes two people working reasonably fast about 6 or so hours (w/ breaks here and there). It certainly could be done faster, but I would say w/ this install like most it's best to take your time and do it right. It is a very involved installation. It's not so much that the installation is "hard" it just takes time: removing all the ramps and disconnecting all the electronics, marking the ramps for drilling, drilling the ramps, installing the wire w/ zipties, installing the ramps back to the pf, installing the units under the pinball, installing the wiring in the backbox.
Seeing the finished product fire up was amazing. The light show is spectacular, especially in a dark room. The interaction w/ the game was amazing and makes tron even more fun if that's possible. I also liked how they used see through light wire instead of the frosted for the LE's. I think it may be a tad brighter then the LE's (mind you I have not seen and LE and a PRO w/ this mod side by side so I could be wrong). The wire being see through almost makes them more invisible when not lit, I think its a cleaner look.
I'm not saying this ramp mod makes a tron pro better then an LE. Not at all, the value of the LE model has been proven w/ many sales and I don't see the price falling in the near future because of this mod or for any other reason. However, it does make a Pro Tron which is already a fun pin that much better.
Ill say again: This is the best pinball modification I have ever seen! What a triumph Eli!
Quoted from btw75:
Instead of zip tie why not some sort of fishing line & knots? Flourocarbon is very clear.
Quoted from Frax:
Awesome idea on the fishing line!
Zip ties *cannot* be perfectly clear. There's too much refraction from the nubs and 'zip' part of the tie. That, combined with the ultra-cheapo plastic they're made from = optically bad.
In theory it's a good idea, as long as the line could be tied tight enough, especially at the bends. I think using line would definitely raise the install time. In my opinion the zipties are much easier to install and look fine, also they keep the wire snug against the plastic. If someone does try this you can use a smaller drill bit.
Quoted from herbertbsharp:
Thanks! Not sure if I understand your question - the car and cycle bases are stock that came with the machine. They are not see through. I actually didn't even know the see through ones existed until I just looked it up after your post.
Sorry, it was late and I did not word it great, but yes that's what I meant. They came w/ the kit I have. They look great, especially the yellow one. It makes it so the optic cable is not blocked from view at any point. If they were not included you should pick them up separately!
I just installed the new code on the Pinbits website fixed the switched lights in Lightcycle multiball (Code Updates 1.1 - Corrects right and left Light Cycle Multiball colors. Minor other cleanup.) Thanks Eli!
Quoted from Purpledrilmonkey:
I think the EL wire is significantly more flexible. I believe the fiber optic cord will pull away from tape due to it's stiffness.
Could be wrong.
I have to agree, zip ties seem a must on mine.
Quoted from flashburn:
I'll see. I hope it will work, looks a lot cleaner. It's super high strength, so I think it will work. Maybe just have to drill a few spots.
Good luck, let us know how it works.
Quoted from flashburn:
As an update to using that high strength 3M double sided tape, it was a failure unfortunately. You could maybe use it in combination with zip ties, but I wasn't liking the look of it either. It's too thick, so it's really noticeable. I was able to drill the ramps and zip tie up the fiber tonight. I didn't spend a ton of time trying to figure out exact lengths, I basically just did every 4 inches or so, and it looks like it should turn out pretty good. I may of been able to do a little bit better job, but nothing noticeable in the end. Hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to finish it off. Looking forward to seeing the final results.
Thanks for reporting back. Yeah I thought it would give you trouble. Good luck with the final few steps!
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