I've just used transparent tape on mine, no one has ever noticed, plus no permanent change to the machine.
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Quoted from frolic:I've just used transparent tape on mine, no one has ever noticed, plus no permanent change to the machine.
Pics ??
Quoted from frolic:This is my EL Wire with tape.
The EL wire is lighter than the fiber. I don’t think it would be strong enough to hold the fiber long term.
He's talking about the totally transparent kind. It's more popular around Christmas for wrapping presents because it goes on totally clear (aside from a little shine). If you're buying Scotch brand, it's usually a purple color, not green on the package. I imagine it's almost entirely invisible inside a pinball machine whereas zip ties would be more noticeable.
Well I have not had the opportunity to use it with eli's fiber wire. but I will try it. As much as it's a great mod, making non-permanent changes to my game is preferable.
I see no reason to be secretive about it. If USPS does my bidding, I'll be pooped when I go to bed this Saturday night.
I was offered but I decided Id rather wait for the final versions. Kinda tapped out after Tax day, and Im super busy at work currently (14 hour days this week). So I thought somebody else could get it up and running sooner.
I've sent out 8 as of today, 5 people have decided to wait for the final version, 2 people got hosed because they were international and I didn't want to risk sending them non RoHS stuff that might get stuck in Bureaucratic Hell (sorry again, guys.)
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Again, I would LOVE to be in the beta version. It would be my first priority to get it installed, give feedback to any issues, work through them, and possibly dive into the coding.
If at all possible, give me a chance. I've built lots of tech toys, and love diving into modding - and this is the best MOD of the them all.
That's my pitch... 
Thanks again for the update Eli - awesome to hear that some of them already are goin out!
There's a big list of people waiting for the mod. There were five potential early adopters who opted to wait for the final version rather than get one of developer kits.
So what happens in the middle of your drilling of your ramp cracks, I mean it's plastic? I would probably do tape just for fear of a ramp replacement . A ton of hung go people but for me this looks like a time consuming and if your not handy well I would stick to tape method. I consider the time spent installing this to be part of cost.
Can't wait to see this mod in person Eli big thanks for working on this project for us. Best of luck in the home stretch!!
From all reports the ramps actually drill really well and nobody has had an issue yet, but this definitely isn't a quick install. In the EL wire thread people have mentioned using an old junk soldering iron and melting the holes as an alternative, but that sounds kind of unpleasant. If anybody does decide to try the tape method I'm sure they'll post pictures.
I was the other international that got hosed.
All good though Eli, i fully understand mate and will patiently wait till the production version. The fact this is even happening is good enough for me.
Any indication of a release month?
Toronto, ON
I can't wait to get my kit and Eli shipped it out on Monday afternoon. It still hasn't crossed the border to Canada but hoping to get it soon. I will probably be drilling my ramps using zip ties to secure the wire. I have seen Eli's wires on Drano's Tron and they are pretty thick. I think as long as you use a cordless drill instead of a hammer drill, go very slow with a proper drill bit and you should be fine. I will post up pics once I get it installed on my machine.
I couldnt resist...
here is a crappy video with a rough in showing the mode biased real quick you will notice a lot of light bleed into the fiber wire.. mainly because its a sloppy install and the wire touches lights causing fade. in the room its quite epic. anywhoo. eli.. awesome.
I originally used tape for the EL wire, but it sags over time. Eli's wire seems like it has more weight and will probably sag even more.
I absolutely recommend drilling the ramps. It takes 15 minutes to remove the ramps, 30 minutes to drill, and 15 minutes to reinstall. Just take your time. Thread with thin white zip ties.
This is a fantastic mod -- best of luck with the test runs!
I did one of the first EL wire mods on a Tron Pro and I used clear hot glue to tack the EL wire in place. It's worked great all this time, no sags, etc. I will likely use the same hot glue on the fiber optic too.
Even though my father hasn't got a tron and he would love to own one
How many kits will you be making
Freakin amazing! I know I've sent eli too many messages, but just in case....I have been and am in on this!
Maybe there actually are clear boutique zip ties somewhere, I'll have to look, but I'm pretty sure what people mean by both clear and white is natural nylon, which are kind of translucent.
Quoted from Pinballgeek:Even though my father hasn't got a tron and he would love to own one
How many kits will you be making
As many as we need to. The whole reason for this latest redesign and the developer release was that I just wasn't going to be able to meet demand with the original design. There are way too many parts, all of which were hand assembled and many hand soldered as well. The new kits are redesigned to actually be producible in enough quantity to meet demand. Downside, another delay. Upside, I don't go insane and more than a few dozen people get kits.
I have seen photos of "clear" plastic zip ties but cant find a source for them. clear.. not "natural" foggy. still searching
here is the image I saw left most clear zip tie
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Jul-2009/37776-zip_ties.jpg
I bought a big bag of cheap ones for making my cables, and they are really thin. So thin that I've had a good number of them break when assembling cables. I think they'll be good for this, though. I'll have to take another look when I get home to see how clear they are, but I suspect they're actually more foggy than clear.
I just looked them up, and they call them "natural", plus they don't have them for sale any more.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0060RUTYO/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M3T1_ST1_dp_2
I bought clear small thin zip ties at home depot. They are maybe 3 inches long and very thin maybe 2mm? They came in a pack of 50 or so if I recall. Thats how I determined how any holes to drill 
Quoted from Spudgunman:I have seen photos of "clear" plastic zip ties but cant find a source for them. clear.. not "natural" foggy. still searching
here is the image I saw left most clear zip tiehttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Jul-2009/37776-zip_ties.jpg
Looks like there's a market opportunity here for someone to fabricate some kind of clear plastic cable guides that you could superglue onto the ramps.
Even a true "transparent" zip tie is gonna be pretty obvious, a mounting solution that's purely below the ramp would be more ideal.
Maybe, but I haven't heard a complaint from the 400 LE owners that have their fiber optic lighting mounted with clear zip ties. Its honestly a non-issue to me. It never bothered me seeing little clear zip tie heads around the ramp. The loop is under the ramp and so is the fiber.
Quoted from Aurich:Looks like there's a market opportunity here for someone to fabricate some kind of clear plastic cable guides that you could superglue onto the ramps.
Even a true "transparent" zip tie is gonna be pretty obvious, a mounting solution that's purely below the ramp would be more ideal.
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