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WTH! Firepower upper lock shot.

By Geocab

9 years ago

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#51 9 years ago

GEO

Geocab

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Cleveland, OH

11y 78,550 2,387 8

Thanks for the alignment tip. I readjusted to be straight with the lane guide and I can cradle with the rubber grommet installed. However, still not making the shot. I used a credit card with a slot cut out instead of the Williams tool. I did not replace the bushing with the swap, but when I rebuilt the flippers about a year ago. Haven't had much play time on the machine because my boards were wonky.

If you're ever in the Cleveland area, west side, you're welcome to stop on by and maybe you can see in person something I'm doing incorrectly and teach me.

#52 9 years ago

HAN

HHaase

Siegecraft

14y 89,550 3,095 4 12

Ok, on this chart....

http://www.firepowerpinball.com/downloads/PlayfieldParts.pdf

The post at location #10, labeled 'rubber bumper post'.
Does it have a rubber ring on it? These are the thin steel posts that have the tiny rings on them. If so, take the ring off.

-Hans

#53 9 years ago

NEO

CaptainNeo

Playfield restorations

Burlington, WI

11y 148K 22,438 37 77 1

I bet your flipper angles are off. Move it down slightly and try that.

#54 9 years ago

JBC

J_Cutler

Inactive member

Muskegon, MI

10y 20,400 203 1

Just out of curiosity, when I looked at your video of under the playfield. Was just wondering if your flipper return springs are to strong. Just a thought. That and the gap on the EOS looks quite a bit short of 1/8".

Jack

#55 9 years ago

GEO

Geocab

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Cleveland, OH

11y 78,550 2,387 8

Quoted from HHaase:
Ok, on this chart....
http://www.firepowerpinball.com/downloads/PlayfieldParts.pdf
The post at location #10, labeled 'rubber bumper post'.
Does it have a rubber ring on it? These are the thin steel posts that have the tiny rings on them. If so, take the ring off.
-Hans

Ok, I took the ring off. Is that ring not supposed to be on there in the first place?

Things I've done today:

Took spinner out
Took Ball Gate out
Jumpered EOS switch (Only a couple of tries so I didn't burn up the coil)
Took out rubber ring

The ball trajectory still falls short most of the time. The ball does make it though. But it sure doesn't hit as hard as the videos posted previously of other machines making the shot.

I cleaned the spinner up and it seems to spin a bit more now. Reinstalled everything other than the rubber on that post.

One last thing to try is switching the left and right coils and see if there's a difference.

#56 9 years ago

BEN

DKong

Pinside member

East Launceston

11y 33,400 150

This was mine after a complete rebuild and strip down notice at about the 46 second mark my shot through the spinner is weak, after changer my EOS to the metal braced ones and adjusted them to the n'th degree can smash it from a hold now.
Was lucky to get this multi ball whilst filming with a bump through the top roll overs into the lock

#57 9 years ago

S J

Jumping-Box

Pinside member

Plano, TX

10y 42,400 331 2 8

Hey Geocab, on another thread you posted a picture of Firepower.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/upload-pics-from-android-phone

Your PF looks very clean. Do you have have a new PF with clear coat?

#58 9 years ago

GEO

Geocab

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Cleveland, OH

11y 78,550 2,387 8

Yes. I bought one at the last Ohio Pinball Show. It's a CPR repro. My last playfield looked pretty worn.

#59 9 years ago

ROB

rkahr

KAHR.US Circuits

Falls Church, VA

10y 85,400 1,846 11

Quoted from HHaase:
The post at location #10, labeled 'rubber bumper post'.
Does it have a rubber ring on it? These are the thin steel posts that have the tiny rings on them. If so, take the ring off.

Geocab, I took Han's advice and it made a huge improvement for achieving the shot in my machine.

Hans, THANKS!

-Rob
-visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC pinball resets

#60 9 years ago

GEO

Geocab

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Cleveland, OH

11y 78,550 2,387 8

I did, but i haven't had much time to test.

#61 9 years ago

S J

Jumping-Box

Pinside member

Plano, TX

10y 42,400 331 2 8

OP
Quoted from Geocab:
It's a CPR repro.

I'm curious, does a new PF with clear coat play slower? Perhaps the PF is slowing down your shot...

#62 9 years ago

ROB

rcbrown316

Pinside+ Addict

Webster, NY

9y 81,300 3,688 22 10

I am on this thread a bit earlier with the same issue. I didnt go and read the last 25 posts but I replaced my flipper coil and cleaned and waxed the PF and it now fires right into that baby from a cradle20140716_010247.jpg

1 month later

#63 9 years ago

ROB

rcbrown316

Pinside+ Addict

Webster, NY

9y 81,300 3,688 22 10

i just waxed the hell outta my plyfield again and this upper lock shot is now the easiest of the three to hit by far.

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