WTB:B/C/(D?)-List DMD under $1k. Recommendations Needed. SE PA.

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WTB:B/C/(D?)-List DMD under $1k. Recommendations Needed. SE PA.


By biggestboss

4 years ago



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    #1 4 years ago

    I recently got into the hobby and am currently stuck with a couple of beaten up system 80s. I think I'm ready to take another baby step towards the modern era. I'm definitely willing to blow $1k and maybe a little more for the right game. Ideally I'm looking for a difficult game featuring speed, long shots, short ball times, and depth. I will not care about appearance AT ALL if the gameplay is locked in.

    Does anyone have a game for sale in this price range?
    Does anyone have suggestions of games I should be looking out for?
    Would anyone in the area consider parting with a "well-loved" machine that plays well?
    Am I stupid to want a DMD without being willing to pay up for one of the more renowned titles?
    Please share your expertise. I appreciate any and all feedback. Abusive responses welcomed.

    I'm willing to accept various warts or even a total project. Working on these machines has been a ton of fun for me despite not knowing what I'm doing. (Special thanks to Ray from Gameroom Collectibles for his youtube tech tips, Clay for his guides and blog, and of course Pinside) The number of helpful people in this community is amazing.

    Maybe someday I will wake up and find tons of well maintained machines available to be played locally so I can answer these questions myself. Until then, I eagerly await your responses.

    #2 4 years ago

    I think the crappiest full working DMD you might find may set you back a cool fifteen hundred simolians.

    Think Stern High Roller Casino or Jurassic Park the lost world.

    A full working non project DMD under $1500 is like looking for a Dodo bird. While it may exist, good luck finding one.

    #3 4 years ago
    Quoted from biggestboss:

    Am I stupid to want a DMD without being willing to pay up for one of the more renowned titles?

    Nope. Just about every game I have bought that wasn't NIB was found at a "Discount" price, let's say. I put in a lot of elbow grease, know-how, and learn what I don't know...usually keep them for 4 months or so, then out the door they go and I find something else. Not just DMD, but early solid states and EM's too. With extremely few exceptions, I've *never* lost money on used games I've bought in the 500-1200 price range, even after considering things like replacing acid-blown MPUs and shopping the game out.

    #4 4 years ago
    Quoted from biggestboss:

    Abusive responses welcomed.

    What are you, some kind of idiot?

    I kid, but really, you can still find decent DMD games for $1k, it may just take some patience. I have a deal pending on my Shaq Attaq for right around that price point, and I passed on a working-but-had-water-damage Rocky And Bullwinkle for $700 (Someone with enough time could've doubled their money on that machine I bet, but to get it looking respectable would've been a hell of a project.) Now, that R&B is kinda the exception to the Norm, but the point is, there are still projects out there.

    Lethal Weapon 3 is a fun game, and it tends to sit unsold at anything over $1000; you might find one around $800-1000 with some patience.

    *edit* I actually passed on a Striker Xtreme a member here was selling for $1000 a while back due to space reasons as well. That was a HELL of a deal, and it sat for a while.

    #5 4 years ago

    Personally I'd go system 11 for what you want to spend. I'd much prefer a nice pinbot to a Tee'd Off.

    If you do go DMD for $1000 or less, they're out there. My friend just sold a Teed Off (no topper) for $1000 and a Cue Ball Wizard for a $1000. Both are DMDs.

    You could just save up a bit more, closer to $2000 and get a GOOD DMD like JM or WCS.

    #6 4 years ago

    CBW is the biggest turd known to man... YOU SHORE NEED THAT RAMP SHAWT...

    #8 4 years ago

    Here is what you are facing now in the pinball hobby: Everybody fancies themselves an amateur American Picker.
    That has been going on for several years now.
    All the easy to moderately easy 'picks' have been eaten up. So you really have to beat the bushes now.
    You have more poles in th CL water too fishing for large mouth pinbass.

    Make friends/ contacts. Be patient. That is what things are about now.

    #9 4 years ago

    Thanks for the feedback so far. The money issue is more of a mental block than anything to do with funds. I'm not going into this hoping to sell it for more than I pay. Buying a toy I have very little knowledge of for upwards of $2k or more just seems crazy to me right now when I don't have any idea how much it will actually be used and enjoyed.

    I missed out on a Last Action Hero last week in this price range solely because of car troubles so I know these deals do still exist sometimes.

    Are any of the system 3s worth playing? Just watched the Shaq Attaq PAPA video and it looked agonizingly repetitive.

    #10 4 years ago

    I'm sitting around bored right now with cash in hand. I'm ready to leave immediately to pick your game up if anyone here has a candidate.

    #11 4 years ago

    You are limiting your choices severely by limiting your max to $1000 for a working DMD.
    You will be in the older DE, Gottlieb DMD category with a couple of Sega, B/Ws (maybe).

    from Mr Pinball ....
    Lethal Weapon 3, 1992 Data East: 1000
    Shaq Attaq, 92 Gottlieb: 800

    You would probably find a Last Action Hero in this range.

    Consider increasing your max by $500 and you will quadruple your possibilities - Demo Man, Judge Dredd, Rocky and Bullwinkle, possibly No Fear, Jurassic Park, etc.

    Good luck. I am in your area and have seen lots of DMDs pass through here with very few in the 1k range unless they needed work.

    #12 4 years ago
    Quoted from Frax:

    CBW is the biggest turd known to man... YOU SHORE NEED THAT RAMP SHAWT...

    I love cue ball wizard...

    #13 4 years ago

    Street fighter 2 can be found in that price range

    #14 4 years ago

    Just sent a couple of e-mails to people from the Mr Pinball list. Some entries were really old so I hope they didn't just forget to delete them.

    I'd be perfectly happy with a project machine, though a working one would be ideal. I would consider system 11s as well. I really just want a fast, tough game that has some level of engagement beyond "see how high of a score you can get."

    Street Fighter 2 looks pretty great. Love the theme. Just watched a couple youtube videos. The frequent stops seem pretty annoying, but I am obviously going to have to accept some flaws. Let me know if anyone nearby has one they are ready to sell.

    Thanks again for the responses. At the very least this is helping me become more familiar with all the different games that are out there.

    #15 4 years ago

    Do you have a friend nearby interested in pins too?
    You could team up and get a pin together each pitching in $1000
    And rotate the pin every few months.

    #16 4 years ago
    Quoted from biggestboss:

    I'm sitting around bored right now with cash in hand. I'm ready to leave immediately to pick your game up if anyone here has a candidate.

    I'm bored and have $1k in hand too and willing to snag a DMD for that. Anyone got one?

    Point being, you an d everyone else man. Posting that on pinside won't work. People here know enough to either value their pin higher or fix said turd, at least enough to sell it for $1500.

    Scour CL, be willing to drive a long ways and make contacts

    #17 4 years ago
    Quoted from biggestboss:

    Just sent a couple of e-mails to people from the Mr Pinball list. Some entries were really old so I hope they didn't just forget to delete them.
    I'd be perfectly happy with a project machine, though a working one would be ideal. I would consider system 11s as well. I really just want a fast, tough game that has some level of engagement beyond "see how high of a score you can get."
    Street Fighter 2 looks pretty great. Love the theme. Just watched a couple youtube videos. The frequent stops seem pretty annoying, but I am obviously going to have to accept some flaws. Let me know if anyone nearby has one they are ready to sell.
    Thanks again for the responses. At the very least this is helping me become more familiar with all the different games that are out there.

    street fighter 2 was the first dmd game my brother bought. and is a great starter game for the money. And imoa would the best one for the money you have on hand right now.

    #18 4 years ago
    Quoted from jrivelli:

    I'm bored and have $1k in hand too and willing to snag a DMD for that. Anyone got one?
    Point being, you an d everyone else man. Posting that on pinside won't work. People here know enough to either value their pin higher or fix said turd, at least enough to sell it for $1500.
    Scour CL, be willing to drive a long ways and make contacts

    I guess things are really different on the East and West coasts because I already have a few promising leads. If anyone has one I might like please contact me soon. I'll be buying the best $1000ish machine that crosses my path in the next 24 hours.

    #19 4 years ago
    Quoted from biggestboss:

    I guess things are really different on the East and West coasts because I already have a few promising leads. If anyone has one I might like please contact me soon. I'll be buying the best $1000ish machine that crosses my path in the next 24 hours.

    Dang, thats amazing. Let us know what DMD pins you end up snagging for 1k!

    #20 4 years ago
    Quoted from cosmokramer:

    Street fighter 2 can be found in that price range

    It really shouldn't sell for that low, if it does that is frankly a steal!

    #21 4 years ago
    Quoted from HighProtein:

    It really shouldn't sell for that low, if it does that is frankly a steal!

    lol...I bought mine less than a year ago for $600 in great condition...seems like you thumbs downed my comment just because you own the game and are trying to make it seem more valuable than it is...the last three that sold here at auction went for $550, $625 and $700 (this one had full leds and new dmd)....it is what it is man don't try to make it out to be more than that.

    #22 4 years ago
    Quoted from cosmokramer:

    I love cue ball wizard...

    +1. The system 3 I miss most. Best wizard mode ever. Wizard mode has real shot based strategy, as opposed to the usual frantic multiball bash for jackpot thing that's been done a million times

    #23 4 years ago

    I sold a GTB Gladiators a couple of months ago for 1k. Great dmd game, with good animations, great flow, and good gameplay. Pick one of these up if you can find one.

    #24 4 years ago
    Quoted from biggestboss:

    I missed out on a Last Action Hero last week in this price range solely because of car troubles so I know these deals do still exist sometimes.

    I think I missed out on the very same Last Action Hero due to transportation issues as well. I had the same limit in mind as well, somewhere around $1000. I realized though, after much looking, that it would be difficult to find something in that range that was still working. I raised my limit to $1500 and am now awaiting the weekend to go officially pick up my second machine!

    #25 4 years ago
    Quoted from maddog14:

    I think the crappiest full working DMD you might find may set you back a cool fifteen hundred simolians.
    Think Stern High Roller Casino or Jurassic Park the lost world.
    A full working non project DMD under $1500 is like looking for a Dodo bird. While it may exist, good luck finding one.

    Dont count out checkpoint. 1000 all day everday

    #26 4 years ago

    I'd suggest giving up the DMD and get yourself a clean System 11, an F-14 or such. You get a lot of action for your $$.

    #27 4 years ago
    Quoted from biggestboss:

    I'll be buying the best $1000ish machine that crosses my path in the next 24 hours.

    patience is a virtue when it comes to hunting pins. I garuntee if you buy the first thing that falls in your lap that the next day you will find a pin you want much more for way less. Make sure it has repairs you have at least a vague idea of how to fix, and its a game that you will not tire of when you play it over and over.

    #28 4 years ago
    Quoted from djblouw:

    I sold a GTB Gladiators a couple of months ago for 1k. Great dmd game, with good animations, great flow, and good gameplay. Pick one of these up if you can find one.

    I would agree. Although I paid a bit more for mine, most system 3s can be had at a reasonable price, and sometimes get more play than the other brands. They have a different feel. I have Gladiators, Big Hurt and Barb Wire, and can't bring myself to part with any of them, but I kicked MM and Metallica down the road without a second thought.

    Street Fighter II and Rescue 911 can be had for around a grand.

    #29 4 years ago

    My opinion.
    There's a reason games like Shaq attack, Gladiators, Street fighter, etc and games like them are so cheap.
    It's because they are terrible and you will not be able to get rid of them later.
    Trust me

    #30 4 years ago

    My opinion.
    Some of the System 3 games are pretty worn out. Not because they were cheaply made.
    More like they had the shit played out of them. Somebody liked them. But yes, they may be hard to turn around, if that's what your after. But I know people that want mine.

    #31 4 years ago
    Quoted from RawleyD:

    My opinion.
    There's a reason games like Shaq attack, Gladiators, Street fighter, etc and games like them are so cheap.
    It's because they are terrible and you will not be able to get rid of them later.
    Trust me

    i agree with this. you're limiting yourself to the very worst of a certain category of pins. dont blow a thousand bucks on the Cadillac Cimarron of pinball machines

    #32 4 years ago
    Quoted from pezpunk:

    dont blow a thousand bucks on the Cadillac Cimarron of pinball machines

    Says a guy that sounds like he owned one! Hey man, not everybody has an endless bankroll to buy the flavor of the week, month , or year pinball machine. The guy's got a thousand bucks, and he wants a DMD. You got any better suggestions, Mr Punkypez?

    #33 4 years ago
    Quoted from o-din:

    Says a guy that sounds like he owned one! Hey man, not everybody has an endless bankroll to buy the flavor of the week, month , or year pinball machine. The guy's got a thousand bucks, and he wants a DMD. You got any better suggestions, Mr Punkypez?

    haha naw, i drove an eldorado in those days. felt bad for the cimarron (and later, catera) owners. my better suggestion is to get a legitimately great non-DMD game with that money, or wait until he's willing to spend the bread to get a great DMD game. just my opinion, of course, and "great" is subjective. he could end up falling in love with his Shaq Attack, and that would be completely awesome as far as i'm concerned.

    #34 4 years ago

    Shaq Attack is not one that I would consider. Shooting baskets is fun in the bowling alley, but wears off fast. I think 911 might fit the bill. These Gottliebs do fit in nicely in a larger collection.

    Happy New Year!

    #35 4 years ago

    Of course, if he could somehow come up with another $400, he might just end up with a Judge Dredd, folks.

    #36 4 years ago

    Gonna go grab one soon unless something better comes up. One last bump for more suggestions or offers. Thanks again for all the responses.

    #37 4 years ago

    Demo man is a great game in the $1400-1500 range. I sold one last year fully working and shopped for 1300, so they are out there!

    #38 4 years ago

    I'd second (fifteenth?) people saying you should save up another $1000 and wait.

    1K DMD is gonna be a turd, Street Fighter has got to be the worst pin I've ever played (could hardly finish 3 balls)

    Spend $1000 on a cheap game now, when you get bored and want to trade up, you'll have a hard time selling it. Your $1000 flushed down the drain.

    Spend $2000 on a better B/W or Stern and it will keep its value or even go up (Judge Dredd, Shadow) making it easier to flip down the road. Your $2000 invested.

    Prices are starting to level off, people are selling more pins to afford these 8k monstrosities, so patience is a virtue.

    #39 4 years ago

    It will be much easier to have patience when I have a decent modern era game to play.

    #40 4 years ago

    Let us know what you get!

    Opinions seem to be very mixed on Shaq Attaq... I have one that I'm selling in a couple days (already have a buyer lined up.) I can tell you that in a mostly non-pinball crowd, it and Revenge From Mars got the most play out of my collection last night. I don't love it, but I enjoy it most every time I play it, and it's a lot of game for the money.

    #41 4 years ago

    Should I have any reason to doubt a Lethal Weapon 3 fitting in a Honda CRV?

    #42 4 years ago

    I just looked at your collection, Biggestboss - Circus (1980 Gottlieb) and Victory (later Gottlieb.) I like Victory about as well as any Gottlieb DMD game, if not better. Victory was designed by John Trudeau, who I would say is one of the greatest designers. If Victory doesn't hold your interest, I would strongly consider avoiding a Gottlieb System 3 (Shaq Attaq, Street Fighter 2, etc.) as they play somewhat similarly.

    Look for a Lethal Weapon 3, or maybe a Party Zone (which can still be had in that range) - it plays like a System 11, but has a DMD.

    #43 4 years ago
    Quoted from biggestboss:

    Should I have any reason to doubt a Lethal Weapon 3 fitting in a Honda CRV?

    Oh, nice! Looks like you've chosen well.

    I *THINK* you'll be fine, but hopefully someone who actually has a CRV can post. Alternately, search for threads about what cars will fit pins.

    #44 4 years ago

    Change of plans. Just played a bunch of incredible pins dialed in perfectly by gameroom collectibles. U guys are completely right I need a Bally Williams game and 1k probably isn't enough. If anyone is selling a decent bsd in my area let me know because I want it. Other games also definitely considered.

    #45 4 years ago

    I have a nice example, fully shopped with strong coloring but I think it's worth $2,400 or so. I'd look for a faded one and you might get it for $1,800 or so.

    #46 4 years ago
    Quoted from biggestboss:

    Change of plans. Just played a bunch of incredible pins dialed in perfectly by gameroom collectibles. U guys are completely right I need a Bally Williams game and 1k probably isn't enough. If anyone is selling a decent bsd in my area let me know because I want it. Other games also definitely considered.

    playing more pins and refining your desires is a good thing. good luck on your search.

    #47 4 years ago
    Quoted from biggestboss:

    Change of plans. Just played a bunch of incredible pins dialed in perfectly by gameroom collectibles. U guys are completely right I need a Bally Williams game and 1k probably isn't enough. If anyone is selling a decent bsd in my area let me know because I want it. Other games also definitely considered.

    LOL

    #48 4 years ago

    For what everyone is saying on here, I bought a DMD machine a few months ago, when the market was theoretically better.

    The machine was posted here.

    It sat unsold for over a week.

    I even posted early on that someone should grab it before I can figure out how to put together the money for it.

    It wasn't in perfect shape, but it is operational. There are two keys though - the first is patience, and the second is being okay with whatever comes up. Based on your most recent post, find something you enjoy, save up for it, and get that. Expect to pay more for it, especially if you want it on a deadline, but it's definitely not a bad way to go about making a purchase. Generally, those of us that get the sub-$1k deals are snagging them because we have enough machines that we're okay landing whatever and checking it out, and can fix them up. I landed five sub-$1k machines within the last year, all System 11 or up, but a lot of them required at least a decent amount of work. I'm fine with that though

    #49 4 years ago
    Quoted from biggestboss:

    Change of plans. Just played a bunch of incredible pins dialed in perfectly by gameroom collectibles. U guys are completely right I need a Bally Williams game and 1k probably isn't enough. If anyone is selling a decent bsd in my area let me know because I want it. Other games also definitely considered.

    no doubt on the patience comments. you can keep coming over here to help you make your mind up on what pins you really like - door is always open if i am home. the no fear is a good one for what you are looking to get pricewise and also how the playfield is layed out. you just need to spend more time on individual games, playing more than one or two games. one or two games wont give you enough to really see what you need to see.

    #50 4 years ago
    Quoted from ebjimmyg:

    playing more than one or two games. one or two games wont give you enough to really see what you need to see.

    disagree. two games is more than enough!

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