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WTB - WPC Printer Boards (16-9464) *FOUND*


By Coyote

6 years ago



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    #1 6 years ago

    Okay guys -
    Looking to purchase the kit, or the boards/cables!

    Pictures attached of the boards, in case you need a visual representation.

    Thanks!
    --Mike

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    3 months later
    #2 5 years ago

    Monthly (okay.. Tri-Monthly?) bump.

    #3 5 years ago

    Good luck. Extremely hard to find!

    #4 5 years ago

    I know. I had *several* chances to buy them back in the '90s for $158 each.. that's what they were going for back then. Never thought I'd be interested in one, of course. D'oh.

    #5 5 years ago

    I bought 3 of them at the IPB sale at 175 each. I got the left over 'parts' after the 3 kits, and was able to put together a 4th.

    I sent the schematics to someone who thought they might be able to reproduce them.. but nothing ever came to fruition.

    #6 5 years ago

    I'm assuming you guys are sticklers for B/W options/toys as this is a piece of history?

    Not understanding what else it's good for? Very cool to have though.

    #7 5 years ago
    Quoted from johnwartjr:

    I bought 3 of them at the IPB sale at 175 each. I got the left over 'parts' after the 3 kits, and was able to put together a 4th.
    I sent the schematics to someone who thought they might be able to reproduce them.. but nothing ever came to fruition.

    Seriously? I missed this? Crap..!

    Quoted from underlord:

    I'm assuming you guys are sticklers for B/W options/toys as this is a piece of history?
    Not understanding what else it's good for? Very cool to have though.

    In this case, yes. My TZ (sample) was shipped with one from the factory for some reason - when it arrived at our location, my district manager removed it. Now I'd like to put one back just for completeness, and to toy with. Was thinking of getting a DigiPort and connecting it up to my home network, and creating a small service on my server to try and poll the game regularly and record results, etc.

    On later games (WPC-95) installing it was really simple - populate a couple missing parts on the A\V board and the CDI board, and you're set! I did this to one of the CVs that I owned, so somewhere in GA or CO there is a CV with a printer DB9 in it. Probably hasn't been used since I sold the game.

    (And yes, because I like the "toys", I'm currently decoding how the Ticket Expansion board works..)

    #8 5 years ago

    I specifically asked James if he had any printer kits, and he didn't think so.. then he found them a couple days later and dropped me a line.

    Many prototype games used them, and used them to dump audits to printers or laptops using terminal emulation software. Yet they always seem to be gone by the time the protos get in my hands.. so I like to add them back.

    I'm getting ready to route a Flintstones and was kinda thinking it would be neat to dump the audits on it when I get to the 'location', but that's purely for novelty purposes.

    #9 5 years ago
    Quoted from johnwartjr:

    I specifically asked James if he had any printer kits, and he didn't think so.. then he found them a couple days later and dropped me a line.
    Many prototype games used them, and used them to dump audits to printers or laptops using terminal emulation software. Yet they always seem to be gone by the time the protos get in my hands.. so I like to add them back.
    I'm getting ready to route a Flintstones and was kinda thinking it would be neat to dump the audits on it when I get to the 'location', but that's purely for novelty purposes.

    I didn't realize ALL protos came with them, as our WCS early sample we got for testing did NOT. (Only the TZ, which is now in my hands.)

    The board dosen't look that difficult to reproduce, and I've been tempted, but haven't had the time to sit down and go over it completely.

    #10 5 years ago

    Found, thanks!

    Now I get to play with networking the game up and recording data.

    4 years later
    #11 10 months ago

    I'm looking for the A-14565-1 Printer Controller Board's manual and/or schematics
    Can anybody help ?
    regards
    Holli

    6 months later
    #12 3 months ago

    Can someone please send me or post the schematic for the wpc printer controller? I have been unable to find it online

    1 week later
    #13 3 months ago

    I'm planning on building a modern printer interface board for my WPC TZ. It would only have a USB serial port. Anyone else interested? Price would probably be in $79 range...

    #14 3 months ago

    Maybe write to an SD card?

    Either way, I'd be in. Especially if it's extensible. (i.e. ZigBee, even. )

    #15 3 months ago
    Quoted from scott451:

    It would only have a USB serial port. Anyone else interested? Price would probably be in $79 range...

    This was a project I designed; but never continued.
    http://pinball-mods.com/blogs/?p=278

    I'd be interested to see how you intend to do it. For me; my goals were posted in the blog.

    #16 3 months ago
    Quoted from Zitt:

    This was a project I designed; but never continued.
    http://pinball-mods.com/blogs/?p=278
    I'd be interested to see how you intend to do it. For me; my goals were posted in the blog.

    I did read your blog. My plan is a bit simpler as I am only supporting a USB serial connection to a PC/RPi etc.

    #17 3 months ago

    I just tried out my WPC USB printer interface board. It appears to be working!!! It connects to a PC/MAC/RPi as a usb serial port at 9600 baud. Below is the captured output from TeraTerm:

    [rant]Formatting on this site is kind of a pain compared to Vbulletin. The "code" tag was not enough to get fixed space font. I had to find and use "pre" tag. Even so, I couldn't get rid of the white space between lines. [/rant]

    So anyone want one of these boards?


    PAGE 1 WILLIAMS WPC PRINTOUT
    ---------------------

    GAME: TWILIGHT ZONE REV. 9.4 H

    CURRENT TIME SATURDAY 5:47 PM AUG. 15, 2020
    CLOCK LAST SET SATURDAY 5:47 PM AUG. 15, 2020

    EARNINGS SINCE LAST PRINTOUT
    ----------------------------

    LAST PRINTOUT NOT SET

    1 EARNINGS $ 0.00 5 4TH SLOT 00
    2 LEFT SLOT 00 6 PAID CRED. 00
    3 CENTR. SLOT 00 7 SERV. CRED. 12
    4 RIGHT SLOT 00

    EARNINGS SINCE COINS CLEARED
    ----------------------------

    COINS CLEARED WEDNESDAY 12:39 AM NOV. 12, 2014

    1 RECENT EARNINGS $ 0.00 5 RECENT 4TH SLOT 00
    2 RECENT LEFT SLOT 00 6 RECENT PAID CRED 00
    3 RECENT CENT. SLOT 00 7 RECENT SERV. CRED 12
    4 RECENT RGHT. SLOT 00

    TOTAL EARNINGS
    --------------

    TOTALS CLEARED WEDNESDAY 12:39 AM NOV. 12, 2014

    1 TOTAL EARNINGS $ 0.00 5 TOTAL 4TH SLOT 00
    2 TOTAL LEFT SLOT 00 6 TOTAL PAID CRED. 00
    3 TOTAL CENTR. SLOT 00 7 TOTAL SERV. CRED. 12
    4 TOTAL RIGHT SLOT 00

    MAIN AUDITS
    -----------

    1 TOTAL EARNINGS $ 0.00 6 TOTAL PLAYS 237
    2 RECENT EARNINGS $ 0.00 7 REPLAY AWARDS 04
    3 FREEPLAY PERCENT 00 8 PERCENT REPLAYS 02
    4 AVG. BALL TIME 34 SEC 9 EXTRA BALLS 16
    5 TIME PER CREDIT 2.90 MIN 10 PERCENT EX. BALL 07

    PAGE 2 WILLIAMS WPC PRINTOUT
    ---------------------

    GAME: TWILIGHT ZONE REV. 9.4 H

    CURRENT TIME SATURDAY 5:47 PM AUG. 15, 2020

    STANDARD AUDS.
    --------------

    AUDITS CLEARED WEDNESDAY 12:39 AM NOV. 12, 2014

    1 GAMES STARTED 292 20 TIME PER CREDIT 2.90 MIN
    2 TOTAL PLAYS 237 21 PLAY TIME 11:27:10
    3 TOTAL FREE PLAYS 00 22 MINUTES ON 11,561
    4 FREEPLAY PERCENT 00 23 BALLS PLAYED 1,200
    5 REPLAY AWARDS 04 24 TILTS 00
    6 PERCENT REPLAYS 02 25 REPLAY 1 AWARDS 04
    7 SPECIAL AWARDS 01 26 REPLAY 2 AWARDS 00
    8 PERCENT SPECIAL 00 27 REPLAY 3 AWARDS 00
    9 MATCH AWARDS 00 28 REPLAY 4 AWARDS 00
    10 PERCENT MATCH 00 29 1 PLAYER GAMES 176
    11 H.S.T.D. CREDITS 00 30 2 PLAYER GAMES 14
    12 PERCENT H.S.T.D. 00 31 3 PLAYER GAMES 00
    13 EXTRA BALLS 16 32 4 PLAYER GAMES 06
    14 PERCENT EX. BALL 07 33 H.S.T.D. RESET COUNT 2,763
    15 TICKETS AWARDED 00 34 BURN-IN TIME 0:00:00
    16 PERCENT TICKETS 00 35 1ST REPLAY LEVEL 250,000,000
    17 LEFT DRAINS 71 36 LEFT FLIPPER 22,146
    18 RIGHT DRAINS 133 37 RIGHT FLIPPER 26,526
    19 AVG. BALL TIME 34 SEC

    FEATURE AUDS.
    -------------

    AUDITS CLEARED WEDNESDAY 12:39 AM NOV. 12, 2014

    1 BUY-IN EX. BALLS 00% 00 23 SPIRAL EX. BALL 00% 00
    2 1st GUMBALL 60% 142 24 DEAD END EX. BALL 00% 00
    3 1st LOCK GAMES 31% 73 25 ROBOT 1st E.B. 05% 11
    4 1st MULTIBALL 05% 11 26 ROBOT 2nd E.B. 00% 00
    5 2nd MULTIBALL 00% 00 27 LEFT DRAIN E.B. 00% 00
    6 3rd MULTIBALL 00% 00 28 BATTLE THE POWER 30% 71
    7 TOTAL MULTIBALLS 05% 11 29 POWER DEFEATED 09% 22
    8 WHITE MULTIBALLS 00% 01 30 TOWN SQ. AWARD 23% 55
    9 MULTI RE-START 00% 01 31 DEAD END AWARD 05% 12
    10 JACKPOTS 03% 07 32 HITCH-HIKERS 407% 964
    11 DOUBLE JACKPOTS 00% 00 33 TRIPLE PICKUPS 07% 16
    12 GUMBALLS LOADED 21% 50 34 CAMERA AWARDS 07% 17
    13 POWERBALL PLAYED 54% 127 35 SKILL SHOTS 57% 135
    14 POWERBALL MANIA 08% 19 36 SUPER SKILL 07% 16
    15 P.B. MANIA JACKPOT 01% 02 37 BONUS X 21% 49
    16 DOOR AWARDS 147% 348 38 SPIRAL AWARDS 36% 85
    17 SLOT AWARDS 66% 156 39 LEFT RAMPS 213% 505
    18 PIANO AWARDS 72% 170 40 RIGHT RAMPS 151% 359
    19 DOOR EX. BALL 03% 08 41 3-WAY COMBO 03% 06
    20 LOST IN THE ZONE 00% 00 42 4-WAY COMBO 00% 01
    21 FAST-LOCK M. BALL 03% 08 43 FREE RIDES 200% 474
    22 FASTLOCK JACKPOT 02% 05 44 BUY-IN FREE RIDE 00% 00

    PAGE 3 WILLIAMS WPC PRINTOUT
    ---------------------

    GAME: TWILIGHT ZONE REV. 9.4 H

    CURRENT TIME SATURDAY 5:47 PM AUG. 15, 2020

    SCORE HISTOGRAM
    ---------------

    AUDITS CLEARED WEDNESDAY 12:39 AM NOV. 12, 2014

    1 0-4.9 M. SCORE 00% 00 8 120-149 M. SCORE 04% 09
    2 5-9.9 M. SCORE 03% 06 9 150-199 M. SCORE 04% 10
    3 10-19 M. SCORE 22% 52 10 200-249 M. SCORE 02% 04
    4 20-39 M. SCORE 25% 59 11 250-349 M. SCORE 00% 01
    5 40-59 M. SCORE 18% 43 12 350-499 M. SCORE 01% 03
    6 60-89 M. SCORE 11% 26 13 OVER 500 MILLION 00% 00
    7 90-119 M. SCORE 06% 15

    GAME TIME HISTOGRAM
    -------------------

    AUDITS CLEARED WEDNESDAY 12:39 AM NOV. 12, 2014

    1 GAME TIME 0.0-1.0M 01% 02 8 GAME TIME 4-5 M. 08% 19
    2 GAME TIME 1.0-1.5M 08% 18 9 GAME TIME 5-6 M. 04% 09
    3 GAME TIME 1.5-2.0M 19% 45 10 GAME TIME 6-8 M. 03% 06
    4 GAME TIME 2.0-2.5M 22% 51 11 GAME TIME 8-10 M 00% 01
    5 GAME TIME 2.5-3.0M 16% 38 12 GAME TIME 10-15M 01% 02
    6 GAME TIME 3.0-3.5M 09% 21 13 GAME TIME > 15M 00% 00
    7 GAME TIME 3.5-4.0M 07% 16

    TIME-STAMPS
    -----------

    CURRENT TIME SATURDAY 5:47 PM AUG. 15, 2020
    TOTALS CLEARED WEDNESDAY 12:39 AM NOV. 12, 2014
    CLOCK LAST SET SATURDAY 5:47 PM AUG. 15, 2020
    AUDITS CLEARED WEDNESDAY 12:39 AM NOV. 12, 2014
    COINS CLEARED WEDNESDAY 12:39 AM NOV. 12, 2014
    FACTORY SETTING WEDNESDAY 12:39 AM NOV. 12, 2014
    LAST GAME START FRIDAY 1:08 PM APR. 3, 2020
    LAST REPLAY SATURDAY 9:39 PM MAR. 7, 2020
    LAST HSTD RESET WEDNESDAY 12:39 AM NOV. 12, 2014
    CHAMPION RESET WEDNESDAY 12:39 AM NOV. 12, 2014
    LAST PRINTOUT NOT SET
    LAST SERV. CRED THURSDAY 2:57 PM NOV. 24, 2016

    #18 3 months ago

    So either with your new board or the orginal, his do you actually initiate the print from the service menu to be dumped to the printer?

    #19 3 months ago

    With both my board and the original you set the printer type in "adjustments" menu and then use the "printer" menu to select the report.

    #20 3 months ago

    So the high scores are not printed? or am I just not seeing them?
    Your board has everything needed to "print"? no extra boards or hardware needed (other than serial terminal)?

    #21 3 months ago
    Quoted from Zitt:

    So the high scores are not printed? or am I just not seeing them?
    Your board has everything needed to "print"? no extra boards or hardware needed (other than serial terminal)?

    You can Initiate one of two ways:
    1. With the game in Attract Mode, send a Carriage Return.
    2. In the Test Menu, select a report to print.

    Quoted from Pbpins:

    So either with your new board or the orginal, his do you actually initiate the print from the service menu to be dumped to the printer?

    No - the printer feature was for operators, and only printed out Bookeeping information.

    #22 3 months ago

    .. And yes, I would like one.

    #23 3 months ago
    Quoted from Zitt:

    Your board has everything needed to "print"? no extra boards or hardware needed (other than serial terminal)?

    Yes by board has everything needed. But its output is a usb cable that when plugged into a PC/MAC/RPi it acts like a serial port connection. It is not possible to plug this board into an RS-232 serial printer.

    #24 3 months ago

    I'd want to see pictures of a completed board; and maybe an install pic.
    I'd also want to see you confirm your pricing before I commit.
    I'd probably be interested in a board or two if reasonable.

    #25 3 months ago
    Quoted from Coyote:

    You can Initiate one of two ways:
    1. With the game in Attract Mode, send a Carriage Return.

    Hmm. How do you initiate a printout in attract mode when using a parallel printer?

    #26 3 months ago

    SOunds like your new board is made to attach to a PC/MAC. Initiating a printout is just a matter of sending a CR, easy to do in TERMINAL, correct? In response to CR, it dumps the screens you show, correct?

    #27 3 months ago
    Quoted from scott451:

    Hmm. How do you initiate a printout in attract mode when using a parallel printer?

    It's been a while since I messed with this and a parallell printer. If it works at all, you assert the SELECT line. (Pin 13.) However, I do not remember if the code was in there to properly handle that.
    Edit to add: This is with the ORIGINAL board - I can not speak for scott451's board handles that.

    Quoted from Markharris2000:

    SOunds like your new board is made to attach to a PC/MAC. Initiating a printout is just a matter of sending a CR, easy to do in TERMINAL, correct? In response to CR, it dumps the screens you show, correct?

    And yes - as far as the WPC side is concerned, it accepts a CR, and outputs the report. No menu, no interactive anything. Be sure to start your terminal's logging before sending the carriage retrun.

    #28 3 months ago

    OK I've switched to the serial interface of my board. I can successfully print from the printer menu. But I can't seem to initiate a print during attract mode by pressing <CR> in the terminal. Can someone run a couple of tests for me?

    printer settings:
    serial, 9600, pause every page=no, dtr=ignore, auto-print=all data,

    When you press enter on the terminal during attract, when does the data start printing?

    Thanks,

    -Scott

    #29 3 months ago

    I’m in for at least 1, and depending on pricing maybe more.

    #30 3 months ago
    Quoted from scott451:

    OK I've switched to the serial interface of my board. I can successfully print from the printer menu. But I can't seem to initiate a print during attract mode by pressing <CR> in the terminal. Can someone run a couple of tests for me?
    printer settings:
    serial, 9600, pause every page=no, dtr=ignore, auto-print=all data,
    When you press enter on the terminal during attract, when does the data start printing?
    Thanks,
    -Scott

    I'll plug the OEM board up sometime this weekend (have to pull my game out to access backbox, which mean smoving other games around), and I'll connect it up.

    #31 3 months ago

    heres a real one i saw? think its the same? https://www.pinballspareparts.com.au/5768-12704-06.html

    #32 3 months ago

    That a real one. It's missing the plug-in board and the wiring, but that has the main guts, yes.

    #33 3 months ago
    Quoted from Coyote:

    I'll plug the OEM board up sometime this weekend (have to pull my game out to access backbox, which mean smoving other games around), and I'll connect it up.

    I'm testing in a TZ running 9.4H. I assume you have the same?

    #34 3 months ago
    Quoted from scott451:

    I'm testing in a TZ running 9.4H. I assume you have the same?

    It's all I run, yeah.

    3 weeks later
    #35 75 days ago

    scott451 where you able to find a schematic of the original board?
    Mine was corrupted; and I couldn't find a schematic in a google search.

    2 months later
    #36 10 days ago

    I have a working prototype of my USB WPC printer board. I wanted to see if there is enough interest in doing a run of these boards. Price would be $79 plus tax (CA only), shipping, and paypal fees.

    The board plugs into the dot matrix controller. It has a micro usb cable that when plugged in to a PC/MAC looks like a FTDI232 serial port.

    See attached pic.

    USB WPC printer board (resized).jpg
    #37 10 days ago

    Of course, I'm up for one!

    #38 10 days ago
    Quoted from Coyote:

    You can Initiate one of two ways:
    1. With the game in Attract Mode, send a Carriage Return.
    2. In the Test Menu, select a report to print.

    I have now determined that #1 is not correct. If you enable "auto-print" in the printer settings, then if you open the coin door and enter the service menu, you can press "Carriage Return" to start the printout without having to navigate into the print menu. But as far as I can tell, "Carriage Return" does not initiate a printout during attract.

    #39 10 days ago
    Quoted from Coyote:

    Of course, I'm up for one!

    You get one for free because you loaned me your original WPC printer board!

    #40 10 days ago
    Quoted from scott451:

    You get one for free because you loaned me your original WPC printer board!

    Eh, I'll still buy one from you. Did great work!

    #41 10 days ago

    lordloss hey does pinball basement have the schematics for this board???

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