JJP said he has a waiting list. You could get on the list if you did not do it yet. Good luck

What is the MSRP of the LE?

The LE is MSRP $7500 if you can find one at that price. The regular version is $7000 not $6500 anymore.
Automated Services has the LE for $8995.

Dude just buy a standard once they are in stock. Why deposit your savings into JJP's account for 6-12 mos?

Why pay $7000 now for the unlimited standard model that you won't see until 2013?

By the time JJP makes 1000+ machines & gets to yours someone else will tire or dislike their WOZ & put it up for sale. Prices won't go through the roof as WOZ will be a loooong run with tons made if they have their way. If they don't have their way then JJP closes & WOZ owners are stuck.

So since you missed the LE boat just sit tight & buy one HUO or a NIB regular?

da man makes sense! What I would do if I hadn't already caught the LE balloon ride from Kansas.

At $8,995 I would have to really consider selling.

OP: What is your location?

Where we're you 4 months ago

I bought a reg version and upgraded the glass and a shaker. Personally wasnt a big fan of the green trim so no loss for me there. The only reason I see buying someones spot now would be if you could get an earlier place in line.

And the topper of questionable niftyness

first 1000 standards are numbered.

Jack will sell you what ever you want, or at least that's what he said at the Texas pinball show a few months back. I guess that means an LE is only "limited" in terms of what the customer wants to pay for. If you want to buy all the LE features than it probably would have been more cost effective to buy an LE outright, but just because the first 1000 LEs are all sold doesn't mean you can't get one. I think you'll get what you want either way, just takes time.

I ordered mine from "Doughslingers" here on Pinside. He's been great to work with. Hit me up if want contact info.

http://thecoindropshere.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=306&idcategory=2

These guys are hard to get in touch with sometimes but are good peeps. There price isn't a steal but it is a grand less than automated ripoffs.

I got in late on the LE and got #704 and it was 7K this was I think in Feb of this year.. I had to pay half already then other half on deliv of game. I think it sold out shortly after that as I almost passed on the preorder yet I am really glad that I didn't

Everyone seems to forget about the mirrored backglass instead of a translite, big difference and I don't know if you are going to be able to upgrade a standard. I believe Invisiglass is also only on the LE, but of course you can upgrade the standard for $350

My understanding is that the backglass on the reg is also mirrorred and Invisiglass can be added. Only difference is trim color and topper.

Trim Kit, Topper, Invisiglass, and shaker motor are the differeences.
Pre order standards now for a numbered game 1-1000 ( random numbers are left), with skaker motor and invisiglass included for $7300.00
Pincades your Chicagoland distributor.
Also have invisiglass in stock.
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JT

The mirrored BG looks very nice.

I also got in late but got the shaker and invisiglass and free delivery, seems like a great deal if the game is as good as I think it will be.

Agreed. The buzz has died down a bit in the past couple of weeks due to the latest delays, but I truly believe that we are going to see a stunning game released at the end of this long road. I'll have this game for years; I'm willing to wait a few more weeks to ensure that this is all that it seems it can be. What we've seen so far has been amazing.

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What about the interactive topper?

Its too bad about the delays. Alot of people including me were under the impression that the op system was functioning which was stated at the MGC 2011. Ive spoken with 2 people who have cancelled in the last 10 days and have requested refunds as they have other obligations. It sounds like Jack has others wanting to fill their shoes. Im sure Jack is doing everything possible to get this resolved.

People are canceling because they were told one thing & later discovered another.

I am one of those people.

A lie is a lie.

A setback is a setback.

But to say something has been completed only to say 6 months later it's a setback... Well that's a damn lie.

I hope JJP does well & when machines are in stock I will be a customer. Until then it's buyer beware, that's not pessimistic it's common sense from before the TronLE days.

Very true. I think the game will be in everyones home, who ordered, but the big question is: when. Things need time as far as working out bugs and make sure the OS is operating well under any conditions. With the heat wave, normal voltage is stressed right now and things need to be able to put up with the different "climates". I'm having older ballast burn out on me left and right due to the strain. The age is just pushing them over the edge I think.

Anyway. Some people have the luxury of spending between $6000-$8000 (depending on the mood of web site) on a game that hasn't been delivered after....18 months and is ok having it delivered whenever it gets done. Others just want what they paid for and were told they'd receive when mentioned on a handful of projected delivery dates, nothing more, nothing less. Everyone is entitled to that.

I know the delivery dates were "goals" and not promises....but still. Someone point out a company outside of pinball that his this business model. I'm not a JJP basher, I just want to point some things out.

whoever wants out and wants to sell there machine Pincades has a list of customers wanting them. the phone has been ringing for over a month from people looking for a ECLEWOZ
LMK we'll find them a new home.
JT
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YES! By all means! If you don't want to wait...Get Out.
Nobody is forcing anyone to stay in.

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The beating a dead horse thing has been beaten to death.

How about this then?

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Classy.

I asked on the owners group. "Can someone buy a reg. WOZ and then make it a WOZLE?"

I am seeing a trend of people buying the reg. version of the WOZ and adding everything to make it a WOZLE. Do you all remember this update? Can you buy everything on this list from JJP? Just wondering if there is anything that will make the LE Unique anymore?

Jack responded......The differences in the WOZLE........"Different Apron, different topper, different rails, no INVISIGLASS or
Shaker, limited to 1,000 which WOZ will not be. Different certificate,
different plaque (only first 1,000 WOZ will get plaque, number and
certificate)

Mirror BG on ECLEWOZ only "

Much less difference on BSM and regular SM yet look at the price disparity....collectibility factor..

I also don't think Jack wants to tell us everything so there could be surprises when the game is delivered

i believe that there are more signatures than just Jack's. While you might find one or two of the guys at a show, i doubt you will find them all. With that said, i think it would be cool to order an extra apron and see how many of the team you can get to sign it over the years.

it would be like having a lord of the rings, or star trek next generation or similiar and going to a convention and getting the cast to sign their picture. i would be something to show everyone just how much of a geek you are (and i consider myself to be a geek too so there is no offense intended).

From the post above Jack said that the topper is different on the LE and the mirrored backglass is only on the LE. Also, the apron is different on the LE.

Quote: Jack responded......The differences in the WOZLE........"Different Apron, different topper, different rails, no INVISIGLASS or
Shaker, limited to 1,000 which WOZ will not be. Different certificate,
different plaque (only first 1,000 WOZ will get plaque, number and
certificate)

Mirror BG on ECLEWOZ only "

Sucks about the BG. I asked about this back in March as was told that the regular was mirrored as well.

I think it is cool that the LE will have a few things that the REG. WOZ wont. That is what makes it collectible. That is why I have been waiting for my WOZLE #31 for almost 1.5 years.