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    #8 7 years ago

    If you want to save a few bucks the original Chexx is a great option. I sold mine before a basement remodel, but I'd buy one back if one was for sale locally. I painted mine to be Gretzky (82-83 Oilers) vs Lemieux (92-93 Penguins). The bottom picture was actually the sideboard, which was never installed.

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    #12 7 years ago

    It depends on what your budget is. Shots on goal would be cool, but I just don't think it's worth an extra $500.

    #29 7 years ago

    This is probably obvious, but this game is most fun when you have others around your same still level. It's not like pinball where you can always set a high score. Part of the reason I sold mine, besides the basement remodel, was that I simply didn't have any competition--I'm not even that good, but my friends all just seemed to really suck at the game.

    #40 7 years ago
    Quoted from taylor34:

    That's definitely an issue with the game, though not as bad as foosball (which I had before). In foosball, if you're decent, no one will ever stand a chance. In Chexx there are random bounces that will sometimes allow the worse player to win before time runs out.

    As someone who sucks at Foosball...it's a very similar feeling. There are common shots in Chexx that the beginner player just doesn't even think to defend. An example is from the right defense with the puck back at your own goal. When you shoot it hard it raises over all of the sticks so you have to block it with your center or goalie. There is nothing intuitive for new players to pull your center back to defend when the puck is sitting next to the goal. It's a really nice looking shot too. The puck rockets to the upper corners of the goal.

    #54 7 years ago

    With the split base you can get it though 32" doors. If I remember correctly you have to put one side of the top though first at an angle (on it's side). I remember getting it into my basement room myself...then when I had help moving it out it was much more difficult. It's all about the technique.

    #67 7 years ago
    Quoted from bintzknocker:

    I have the same issue. So I went to home depot (my local hardware store sucks but thats a different story) and bought a switched outlet. (the one that has a switch for one of the outlets). Put it in an electrical box. Cut the female end off an extension cord. Wired the female end to the switch so that the outlet is hot when the switch is flipped. Plug Chexx into the outlet, plug the male end of the extension cord.
    Lock the coin door and there you go. You turn the game on and off with the switch instead of having to go into the game.

    If your wall are already finished, wouldn't it be difficult to wire in the "switched outlet". Would be a great solution if it was already done. I guess, if you're in an area where there is no moisture you might be able to run the wiring behind the baseboard. I guess you could also fish the wire directly above the outlet. Still...not up to code and not really an easy fix.

    Also to the best of my knowledge any cheep outlet can be turned into a switched outlet. They have a breakable connection between the two outlets. At that point you just need to wire them correctly.

    PS: Just to be a troll, with the debate over the MMR. Wouldn't you pay a premium for an original Chexx?

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    #484 4 years ago

    They quoted you a price? I had to talk with several people to get them to agree to send a quote even sending them the board. The closest they came for me was $75 per hour, plus parts.

    #496 4 years ago

    Were the playfields on the older games more yellow? If not,any tips for for trying to make it white again?

    #500 4 years ago

    Yeah, I've tried a Magic Eraser...nothing. Actually it does help a bit, but it takes off more red and blue then anything. The figures are yellowing too. After doing some more research, I think I'm going to try a "retrobright" process to see if that makes any difference. I'm going to start with a bottle of Salon Care 40.

    #502 4 years ago

    Yeah, it didn't really bother me until I replaced the ramps. I'm hopeful about the retrobrite. Since it's winter I'm going to try using a full spectrum floodlight to hopefully activate the process. I'll try to post before and after pictures.

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    #523 4 years ago
    Quoted from lpeters82:

    Yeah, it didn't really bother me until I replaced the ramps. I'm hopeful about the retrobrite. Since it's winter I'm going to try using a full spectrum floodlight to hopefully activate the process. I'll try to post before and after pictures.

    I can 100% confirm that Retrobrite will whiten yellowed plastics in Chexx. I was able to do the goals with the floodlight. They went from the color of butter to bright white. I'm struggling a bit with the ice as it's winter here and I'm finding that my floodlight needs to be fairly close in order to work. I'm sure I'll get it, but it's going to take awhile.

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    #554 4 years ago

    That's pretty sweet. I keep debating about painting my figures again. Last time I did a Gretzky (Oilers) vs Lemieux (Penguins) theme. I'm more of a casual fan so choosing a theme is always a toss up for me.

    #556 4 years ago

    I think most just print them out on adhesive paper, apply them, and clear lacquer over the top. That's what I did for the one's below. That was my first time attempting any model painting. Hoping I could clean them up an a second attempt.

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    #558 4 years ago

    I had no idea. I just picked something I liked and went with it.

    #569 4 years ago
    Quoted from roar:

    Google "jersey fonts" or "sports fonts".
    You'll find a site like this: http://www.fontspace.com/category/jersey
    You may want to use something other than a word processor (Photoshop or Gimp?) to add different colours to the different areas of the font like lpeters82 was able to achieve. Though he may have been to accomplish that in Word too I suppose with a drop shadow or glow effect.
    lpeters82 - I think your painting looks amazing for a first time, I hope to get similar results when I do mine. I'm going Chicago (Mostly new players, Toes,Kane/Roenick upfront, Keith and Seabrook on defense and a toss up between Belfour or Crawford in net) for sure... can't decide on their opponent, likely Toronto or Montreal.

    Thanks. I didn't mind the way they turned out, but whenever I do things myself I notice all of the flaws. For example, when I tiled our basement bathroom. After I was done small issues in spacing were bothering me. I went upstairs to see how the "professionals" had done it and saw that theirs was much worse then mine. It never bothered me upstairs. Anyway, as for the names and numbers, my guess is that's just Microsoft Word (Word Art), but I do also use pixlr which is a free online editor.

    #588 4 years ago

    I'm guessing that thing is quite a bit more rare then a Chexx. It really is amazing how similar it is. When did Chexx come out? Wasn't it also 1983?

    #592 4 years ago

    Anyone have an extra small stick figure? I have a CCCP goalie or USA long stick for trade, but I'd also be willing to purchase. Looking to complete a set for painting.

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    #608 4 years ago

    Did you use sunlight or a lamp?

    #612 4 years ago

    I used a bulb and had good results, but I'd like to try it again this summer (when we finally have some sun).

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    #623 4 years ago

    That's the only downside with Chexx. It's only really fun if you play against someone of a similar skill level.

    #627 4 years ago

    I am still looking for a short stick for a painting project (any team).

    #644 4 years ago

    Check the one above you. Aren't you guys actually pretty close. Seems like a deal could be reached.

    #651 4 years ago

    How much did they charge to do the dome? Mine looks similar to your before pictures.

    #674 4 years ago

    When I painted mine I put on many layers of clear. I have no idea how many exactly, but it was a process. I had a board with holes drilled into it where all of the figures sat for 1-2 weeks.

    #676 4 years ago

    I just use the stuff from a can. I sold that machine, so I can't comment on how well it's actually holding up. My plan was to respray ever so often.

    #679 4 years ago

    Has anyone tried adding athletic tape to the sticks? Most players tape their sticks anyway, so it's not like it would look out of place.

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    #715 4 years ago

    Yeah great price. Would be purchased in a hurry in my area.

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    #743 4 years ago

    I still need to choose which teams I'm going to paint. The last time I did a paint job I did Grezkey (Oilers) vs Lemieux (Penguins). I'm a fan of hockey, but I don't really have any team I follow, so choosing is difficult. I'm probably either going to do Slap Shot or Miracle On Ice.

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    #747 4 years ago

    So I a long-shot of a request. My Super Chexx has the older style of main board and scoreboard. Apparently the boards inside the old scoreboard and new scoreboard are not interchangeable; nor can the old main board power a new scoreboard. Does anyone know where I can buy a single board for the old scoreboard? I'm very hesitant to send it into Ice as the $85 per hour could add up very quickly. In the picture the old board is the one with more components.

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    #770 4 years ago

    @lantenite04

    I'm going to need to do something like that for my Super Chexx. I like the smaller goal light, but honestly I think changing the top lighting to red has a greater impact. Could you provide more details on how this is accomplished. I'd like to try to do that on my machine. Alternatively, or additionally would it be possible to add one of those mini beacons to the top of the machine? I think that would make a nice light show.

    #772 4 years ago

    Yeah, I think that's where the impact comes from. The goal lights are cool, but they don't really add all that much IMHO. I don't think there is much confusion about who scored. I'd be perfectly happy to just have a beacon on the top that goes off whenever a goal is scored for either side. Perhaps find a "cup-like" holder that can be mounted then just set the beacon light inside of that. I'd be willing to test it out, but I really don't know how to wire it up.

    #776 4 years ago

    Cool, I just sent you a PM. I'm going to try to find a smaller beacon plus LED strips under the cabinet. I think that will provide a nice light show. I've added lighting to games before, but this will push my skills to the next level. I'll learn as I go. If anyone finds a decent smaller beacon post it here, I'm thinking others will be interested in creating these.

    #781 4 years ago

    I don't know the beacon is just so synonymous with scoring in hockey.

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    #824 4 years ago

    Finally got a goal light working. Not sure this will be the final light, but I'm quite happy with it as a $5 version 1.0. I like the size and mounting, but it doesn't quite have the light show I was hoping for. I will be uploading a video shortly.

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    Video Link:
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/yJWghJnEZCIFyYXu2

    PS: I'm new to Google Photos, please let me know if this works.

    #826 4 years ago
    Quoted from latenite04:

    The link says it's empty.

    Let's try Youtube then:

    #855 3 years ago
    Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

    I am going to sell my game (pic attached) and upgrade to the new model, a Stanley Cup Penguins Edition.

    I wonder how many people will look to sell and upgrade. It's probably going to be a decent time to find a Chexx for those who have been looking for one.

    PS: I'm also curious about your flaking question. I'm wondering just how many layers of clear are needed to protect the paint.

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    #892 3 years ago

    Does anyone have a good description for an audio hack. I think some audio would really help Chexx. I took my 6-year old girls to a semi-pro hockey game the other night and we had a great time. The audio in the arena really helps to get everyone pumped up. I'd love to create two playlists for Chexx. One list of clips that randomly plays at face offs and one list that randomly plays after a goal is scored.

    After the game it took me quite some time googling to find this song. To get the effect play if from around :39 to :60.

    #895 3 years ago

    latenite04 taylor34 Could you please post a link of the device you are using. Is it one sound clip per input or could you have an input play a random sound clip? I think it might work to just detach the original sound, so that when you hit the "start / boo" button it starts the game and plays the national anthem or entrance song. I think your idea of creating a second button is a great idea. That could be the "pump up" button. Hit it after a goal or whenever. As long as the clips fade out, I don't think it's a big deal to have them continue while playing.

    #899 3 years ago
    Quoted from SeaLawyer:

    Bloody brilliant, both of you!!
    I have a pre-announcer SC. Would LOVE to add some Gary Thorne or Rick Lange call audio!

    You could probably mount sensors under the playfield so when the puck travels over that section a specific clip is played. That would probably give it a bit of a randomized feeling to the callouts.

    #902 3 years ago
    Quoted from SeaLawyer:

    Yeh, even if it was just the "Heeeee shoots, he scores" line and a few other randomized goal clips that activate with the goal buzzer, that'd be awesome. What you're describing might require some kind of metal or sensor in the puck, don't you think? Unless I re-did the playfield with a one-way mirror that sensors could see through... Hmmm... I'd LOVE to do even more (like some sort of on-the-fly, spliced-clip play calling, similar to what the AI does in EA sports NHL games). SO MANY possibilities.

    The reed switches worked great for the goal light. I don't see why they wouldn't work if you choose to mount them around the playfield. Either way you'd need them for the goal sensor for you're "heeee shoots, he scores". I thought about just created a longer clip with silent sections to just play, but it would always play in the same order and that could get pretty old. Thus my idea for some strategically placed sensors under the play field. Just make sure they are not somewhere where your likely to go back and fourth over it. I might try attaching one to each goalie. That way there could be save callouts, in addition to the "ohhh, ahhh". It will just be fun to test out some different stuff and see what works.

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    PS: latenite04 is the one that helped me out with this.

    #904 3 years ago

    Still waiting on a few parts, but I'm starting to create some goal horns. The first is just the 3.5 second horn. The others are the horn plus a bit of music. I figured the music would work both as a celebration song and face off song. After about 20 seconds it fades out. Let me know if you have some suggestions for other songs. They are pretty easy to do.

    Goal Horn (Horn Only):

    Goal Horn (Joker and the Theif):

    Goal Horn (Kernkraft 400):

    Goal Horn (Chelsea Dagger):

    Goal Horn (Thunderstruck:

    Goal Horn (Oiler's Song):

    Goal Horn (Our House):

    PS: Anyone know the title of that "Oiler's Song"?

    #917 3 years ago
    Quoted from SeaLawyer:

    Well done! Especially like "Joker and the Thief" and "Kernkraft 400". What about "7 Nation Army"? What will actually play the sound? Something wired into the same speakers?

    I haven't quite decided. Probably going to use an external speaker, but I'm seriously considering just redoing all of the game sounds. I just don't really think the crowd noise, ohhs and ahhs, or national anthem is worth keeping. With nine inputs on the board I'd eventually like to try to replace everything. Is there a good version of Seven Nation Army with the chants somewhere?

    #932 3 years ago

    It would be cool to develop an LED kit that has spots for custom video and audio files. That way if people wanted to customize things for a specific team they could do that.

    #963 3 years ago

    Great idea with the players names. I like how on the Blackhawks side each shaft is represented by a name/number. Why the extra names on the Bruin's side? I like the idea of having customized players without repainting or redecaling the figures themselves. I might even create little pockets, so it's truly just a matter of printing off a new player card. That would help keep the machine from becoming dated.

    #993 3 years ago

    Would be easier to flip up the glass with it that way though, since it's not against the wall.

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    #1033 3 years ago
    Quoted from latenite04:

    If you're thinking about building a replacement panel like I did for super chexx I just used 5050 rgb led strips. I have been wondering what different colors of white would look like so I have some bright white, cool white and daylight led strips on order.

    I'd think the cooler the better, but test them out and share some pictures.

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    #1153 3 years ago

    Unless you have a second favorite team, I don't thing there is anything wrong with going with home and away jerseys. My personal preference is to also avoid using current teams since it instantly starts dating the machine. The exception to that would be recreating a specific game / series. So if you wanted to replicate one of the recent Stanley Cup games I think that could be pretty cool. Other then that go with no-names or all time greats.

    I'd love to see someone do Cheifs vs Bulldogs from Slapshot.

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    #1196 3 years ago
    Quoted from Quarterear:

    I am in the process of customizing my Superchexx audio completely overriding the original sounds and adding my own. I am adding goal horns, commentary when scoring and saving, end of game horns, organ music, lights, etc. This is will be customized to the team so for example, I will have the TV commentators, horns, etc all custom to my team. I'm considering making these as a kit for all teams. Anyone interested in purchasing something like this and how much would you pay for it?

    Is this for the the original scoreboard or the new scoreboard? I have already added a goal light and have most of the supplies needed to create some custom sound on my original. If you have the ability to edit the original roms, that would be really cool. It would be fun to swap out the other sound files with something new.

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    #1207 3 years ago

    Are you coming to MGC? That looks a bit whiter then mine.

    #1211 3 years ago
    Quoted from meSz:

    Did you try to use a Magic Eraser on your existing one?

    Yes, I tried lots of different cleaners, including Magic Erasers. I was almost sure the Peroxide with UV light was going to do the trick, but even that didn't seem to get it white. I almost have the opposite effect as his. My ramps look white and my ice looks yellow.

    PS: I might have an extra player. I'm actually going to be painting a set soon, so I'll be bringing them out shortly. The last paint job was Gretzky (Oilers) vs Lemieux (Penguins). This time I'm going to go with Wisconsin Badgers vs Minnesota Gophers.

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    #1220 3 years ago

    Finally getting around to custom painting Wisconsin vs Minnesota. I started out by spraying a base count and then did a rough brush for colors. My plan is to then do a wash over them get them to look a bit less "plasticy". I have problems getting over the fact that they are not perfect and I think the wash is going to help me to get over that. It's really silly though, because if you look at your standard chexx figure the painting if horrible. Anyway, below is an example of where I'm at. This figure still needs to have the face and stick painted. Then over everything with a brown wash. Last the decal logo and numbers will be applied.

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    #1222 3 years ago

    Ugg...so I learned it's very tough to add a wash on top of white. I still like it better then the sharp white, but I wish I would have used a much lighter wash.

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    #1224 3 years ago
    Quoted from lpeters82:

    Ugg...so I learned it's very tough to add a wash on top of white. I still like it better then the sharp white, but I wish I would have used a much lighter wash.

    Yeah, I don't totally mind that. It kind of give the feeling that it's a timeless matchup.

    Goalies...I might still try to do some type of design on the masks, but perhaps it would be easier to just print out some really small decals.
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    #1226 3 years ago

    Thanks, I think it's like anything you work on personally...you see all the flaws. I remember that happening when I tiled the floor in my basement bathroom. As I was laying it all I could see where the areas that weren't perfect. It was really bothering me, but then I went upstairs and looked at the tile in my upstairs bathroom it was much worse. Because I didn't do the work myself, I never noticed all the imperfections. Hopefully this is the same.

    #1231 3 years ago

    Damn, I just realized I can't print the white Wisconsin logo. Printers don't print white, duh. I was planning on the diagonal logo, which is what they use for hockey. Now I might try to just print out the "W" logo with the black outline and then paint the inside by hand.

    #1233 3 years ago

    It does, but you have to cut out around the white pieces. That's find for simple shapes, but it's not going to work for something like this:

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    #1235 3 years ago

    Maybe that could work. I could create and order something like this:

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    PS: The black was just added so you can actually see the white.

    #1239 3 years ago
    Quoted from roar:

    Don't want to do that 6 times eh? Can't blame, I like the other thought above... jersey numbers and names are often white too, I'll need to remember this for when I do mine.

    I don't have the skill to cut out letters that at 1 or 2 mm tall.

    #1243 3 years ago

    I had to break mine off and use a razor blade. Interested to learn if there is a better way.

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    #1256 3 years ago
    Quoted from northvibe:

    Anyone want some used ice cheap?
    Otherwise I am not sure why I’d keep it out of the garbage :/

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    #1259 3 years ago

    If anyone wants that yellow ice that I removed, please let me know. If not I'll likely just toss it into my back room as a backup.

    #1261 3 years ago
    Quoted from northvibe:

    I wonder if doing that whitening like an snes would work?

    It does not. I've tried three attempts with Salon Care. Once with a UV light and twice with sunlight.

    #1267 3 years ago

    Here is the direct link to parts...

    https://www.icegame.com/category/22/super-chexx

    #1269 3 years ago

    I may have them.

    #1281 3 years ago

    Yeah, I think with these bigger items shipping is going to be the largest hurdle.

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    #1348 3 years ago

    Finally ordered my decals for my Wisconsin Badgers vs Minnesota Gophers. I needed to print white on clear, so I went with a 5" x 5" custom window decal from Vistaprint. Even with shipping it was under $10. The size was actually more then enough to get the logos and numbers. I was filling the extra space with some other random stuff, including some decals for the goalie masks. I'll post pictures when they arrive. I'm probably still the most nervous about the Wisconsin logo. It's just not super clear when I convert them to .png format. If the "WISCONSIN" logo doesn't look good, I may end up using just the "W" logo.

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    #1350 3 years ago

    So the Vistaprint clear decals are a pain in the butt to get them to stick to the players. If I were to redo it I might try superglue. I used a 3M adheasive and then painted over them with a clear. The key was using heat after each step. I sat with each player under heat and used a tweezers to move and press the decals down. They are by no means perfect, but when they are mounted under the dome, I think they will look just fine. I'm going to put another 3-4 coats of clear over them then install them.

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    #1351 3 years ago

    Alright, final coat of clear is dry and custom scoreboard names have been applied. It's game time.

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    #1355 3 years ago

    What would be the total cost of the bubble shipped to 53818? Mine is pretty bad.

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    #1389 3 years ago

    Hmm...I'd try some different adhesives the next time I did it. The 3M spray wasn't doing the trick. I used a tweezers to hold it down while drying it out with a blow dryer. Ultimately, I think it's the multiple coats of clear that are actually holding mine together.

    #1393 3 years ago

    Water slide decals would be the best option for anything except for very small white details. I'm sure there is a better option then window clings, but it does work. It's just very hard to get them to adhere to the figure. I was lazy and only tried one adhesive though, so perhaps there is an option out there that would make the job much easier. Perhaps even a super glue, since it's essentially plastic to plastic.

    #1396 3 years ago

    I was under the impression that most inks were somewhat transparent, but if you had a good white ink printer it would probably be ideal.

    #1398 3 years ago

    I did. I wouldn't have worked for my case, but would work for many.

    #1400 3 years ago

    Post #1350. The logo for Wisconsin is simply the text in white. At that scale each letter is 1-2mm. That's far to detailed to cut out or color without some pretty specific tools.

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    #1468 2 years ago

    I don't think they have changed a whole lot...$1,250 plus or minus $250.

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    #1635 2 years ago

    $1,000 IMHO

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    #1660 2 years ago
    Quoted from Raegor:

    That's awesome.
    Part of the problem with these is everyone wants to play the home team or USA team, you solved that problem.

    That's why I decided against my Slap Shot theme. Everyone would want to play as the Chiefs.

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    #1666 2 years ago

    How do people prevent their custom painted players from chipping? I have used multiple coats of spray and bush on clear, but still after every game I'm taking out a broom. Thankfully it's exclusively on the sticks, so I've been filling them in with Sharpie, but still I'm always concerned it's going to start coming off the players too.

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    #1758 1 year ago
    Quoted from mkk629:

    Yes, painted myself. Actually did three sets (see below) so I could still play while working on one. #13 is actually Billy Guerin. All my favorite ‘09 Cup players and same players for all three sets (because of the stripe on the old third jerseys, I couldn’t fit the names on those jerseys).[quoted image]

    Nice job.

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    #1815 1 year ago
    Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

    Outside of moving the game from it’s original spot on the floor, everything inside the bubble should be legal. In the NHL, do guys get to stand in the crease and take as much time as they want to set the puck up on their stick and make the perfect shot?? NO! They get checked hard. This is why jiggling the goalie and “popcorning” must be allowed. Shoot the puck or get it jiggled off your stick.
    As for face offs going to the center iceman, why pass off? Shoot it. There are ways to redirect the puck if the game eject favors one team. That’s Life in the Bubble! Sometimes the puck bounces your way, and sometimes it doesn’t.
    For maximum enjoyment, play the game by keeping the puck moving.

    I thought the "no popcorning" rule seemed reasonable, but I think this is the perfect counter argument. If an adult is taking their time to line up a shot with their center the defense should be able to use any advantage possible. I say "adult" because I think a kid should be able to play however they want. I agree that the game is the most fun when the puck is constantly in motion.

    #1837 1 year ago

    I'm surprised there isn't an official riser for these, yet. They kill my back after playing a few games.

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    #1964 1 year ago
    Quoted from neverahighscore:

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    We do this too. Actually, I typically do it and the other players will be adjusting their setup, then they look at me and feel bad. Head games.

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    #2578 1 year ago
    Quoted from Pinballmike217:

    Big lot of used bubble hockey parts for sale. Displays, players, hardware, etc,etc. $200 for all. Pickup in Topsfield, MA or $21.10 for a USPS large flat rate box.
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    I'd be interested in a scoreboard if you split. Maybe two so I have an extra

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