What, no 9 shot combo demonstration?

Looks incredible!

I would say here's the money shot for that flipper.

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If it was around 6'ish I could buy one too, but at 8'ish, just not in the budget. Unfortunately, I want one, bad.

I'm sure it's worth every penny of 8k. I just don't have that many pennies, and won't in a year.

While there has been some input and they have been very receptive to ideas, but do you really expect that they should incorporate every idea? There has to be a point where they are they manufacturer and that's that. You get what you get. I think it's asking a lot for them to provide what you're looking for.

Watched that big lebowski video, looks boring as hell. I'm pretty surprised that this machine isn't getting more love.

I think you're taking this comment the wrong way.

I'm sure you're a load of fun at parties, always correcting people and never understanding sarcasm and humor. Although, maybe with a few drinks you'd loosen up.

I don't think people get it, the game won't be built without the funds up front. There is no I'll wait until production to buy it.

I'd love too, just not in the budget.

I think he is calculating the terms of the preorder (which still stand I believe 100), and when the last machine would be delivered and the project completed. Not necessarily when his or yours would be delivered.

You have a real problem brother.

I'm amazed that being a forum dedicated to pinball, how many people seem hate everything about pinball.

You've got good beer, we get to keep the pinball.

Much less faith than putting out 8k for absolutely nothing done, like most of the other machines.

I'm kinda feeling a negative vibe here for some reason. I don't think that anyone was trying to shoot down anything, I think a lot of people are just putting in their ideas into a pool. Maybe it won't work, maybe it will. I personally wouldn't want a kit, because I just don't want to take the time to do that. If some people would like a kit, I don't see the harm in saying it on a forum.

People tossing out ideas isn't negative, it's positive, means they are seriously interested in the machine, but maybe at some cost savings for doing the labor themselves. I actually do think (of course I have no experience) that the labor is most of the cost, for being reimbursed for the programming time spent, third party dev payment if necessary, down to hard assembly. The parts for this machine, I'd say not even half of what was being asked retail. Do I know that for sure, no I do not, but just a hunch from being 'around' this stuff for a while now.

Lot's of this going on I think.

(profanity, don't watch if you don't care for profanity)

Exactly, people what the non-theme pin of their choice, not someone else's. You sure see a lot of comments about it, but not a lot of people putting up the cash to prove it.

This machine is 10x the machine that TBL is, that's all the proof you need. People will argue about the voice or music quality, but pure game mechanics and rules, TBL looks incredibly boring, and this looks incredibly exciting to play.

Just flipping block me if my posts upset you so much, get over yourself dude. Who cares if I give my opinion from watching videos and talking with the creator of the game etc. Just go away, you have some type of weird problem with me. Bite harder next time....

It is based on reality, why would it be any different if I watched someone play it on video or played it person. I can see the physics, the rule set, the implementation if the theme etc. I can make very valid observations from watching a video. People do that all the time, judges watch video evidence and make legally binding decisions, send people to jail, from that evidence. So your argument is totally invalid, you have just some kind of superiority complex against me, but I'm here to tell you I don't give two shits what you think, you are nothing in my life, why am I something in yours?

Of course, people watch videos all the time to learn about stuff. College courses, space travel, judicial system, why is this such a hard concept to grasp? Hell, people watch pinball videos to learn intimate rules about the game, how is that any different than watching a video judging game play.

I feel like I'm in bizzaro world here. Plus, at the very least my post was 100% on topic, not personal attacks that have nothing to do with a thread.

Both you and Hwawonyu have posted many times on the wrestlemania threads (and I'm sure other threads) judging it, even before any pictures were released, let alone actually playing it.

Buy you're replying to a response to someone else without taking the original message in context. I said, to paraphrase.

'I believe this game looks to be 10x better and that TBL looks boring.'.

I would never plunk down money to buy a pin without playing it first, but I can, and will continue to, give my opinion about a machine. People do, maybe you should go bust their balls instead. You guys just have your panties in a bunch because TBL is your choice, and I think it looks boring.

This is no different that what both of you guys have done time and time again in other threads.

For Christ sake... The next sentence explains it, I can't believe this, thanks for the laughs guys. Takes all kinds.

Nah, much like the other guy, you're not that important in my life to do any sort of thing. And I'm going to stop posting on these ridiculous threads that have taken this topic off track. So congrats for that.

Nope, just not that important to me, like I said.

No one can deny that the programming of this machine is right up there with WoZ.

Can't wait for that video!

You need Gimli.

I'm curious about the development of the audio for the machine. Any news there?