Quoted from Matt_Rasmussen:

If it was around 6'ish I could buy one too, but at 8'ish, just not in the budget. Unfortunately, I want one, bad.

Quoted from Whysnow:

I refuse to take my money back.

Quoted from benheck:

I think Scott could have done it with 50 pre-orders.
As a non-licensed theme boutique pin guy myself, it seems having a game at shows isn't the biggest driver of sales. What really gets people to plunk down their money is seeing stuff go out the door and being able to play it on location or at a friend's house who bought one. This makes the game REAL to people - anyone can walk into a pizza joint and play one, if they want.
If Scott built the first 40-50 WOOLY, and Chuck got them out the door, seeing them in homes and on location would give the other 50 potential buyers the confidence to buy one as well. Then Scott makes his number - maybe not all at once, but eventually.
We've seen this with AMH - the more we sell, "the more we sell". A good game is its own best advertisement.
250 pre-orders sight-unseen such as with Predator or RAZA is never going to happen again. The pre-sale pinball frog has been boiled. But that doesn't mean it's impossible to sell games. You just have to do it one REAL game at a time now.

Quoted from Whysnow:

The current equation did not work but I feel confident that we will see a new equation that does work.
Scott and Frank >> Remember that there is a huge group of supporters behind you (even those that did not buy in the first round) that would liek to see this get done. Even those that have been against some parts have fully said if the game was done and availble now then they would likely buy! That is a testament to how great the game is!
lordloss > Where are you starting the bidding? If proto #2 is for sale I think you will have competition. I also would like to have it and put on route for others to see. I wonder if there is some way to get a rotation among towns and let WOOLY #2 played and seen by more people? Even if just in the midwest. The game definately NEEDS to be at MGC!

Quoted from Whysnow:

I am not sure if you understand that those are all the parts that were the reason they needed 100 preorders and the cost was what it is?
Go try and price out the cost to get a custom mold for the ramps made and then to actually make the crystal clear ramps. I think there is a good reason you don't see AMH (or any small run game) with clear ramps. I don't think a small run heath kit option is any more feasible based on cost cutting cause those are the expensive parts. Labor to assemble was one of the cheaper things and lower obstacle in a project like this is my guess.

Quoted from Whysnow:

WHEN and WHERE can I play this next?
Are you guys coming to MGC?
You can cuddle up with me if you need a place to crash Frank

Quoted from Whysnow:

unfortunately there are no longer enough off the shelf parts available anywhere to build more

Quoted from CaptainNeo:

the intent is to tell you, it was no properly dialed in and could have played much better than it did.

Quoted from ecurtz:

You probably already know, but it looks like Terry is making single drop targets as part of his new home-brew section.

Quoted from pinballnut3:

This guy! Can we get him a horse to beat instead?

Quoted from taylor34:

I don't see how a kit is impossible, you just have to do it in a certain way in order to limit technical support. Everyone on here is talking about how you have to assemble all the parts into kits, make instructions, wiring kits, etc...that's not how I would go about it, I would do it how the kit car companies do it (which is way more complicated to build than a pinball machine). Basically provide the parts to do it cosmetically (ramps, playfields, boards, decals) and then just provide rough instructions and part numbers for everything else...i.e. supply game specific parts, no manufacturing, take away the technical support aspect. Make a builders forum, let users talk among themselves to figure things out. You are only on the hook if the part is defective. If you supply complete kits, then you're on the hook for everything...so take that out of the equation entirely.

Quoted from Whysnow:

I still love that few people actually know how many exist or where they are. I find it fun with all the guesses from people on whom the non-public owners are
I REALLY hope this makes it to production someday! I recently started putting more time on mine with new code and am having lots of fun exploring again. ColorDMD is goona be sweet!

Quoted from Whysnow:

I think most of those are now available at new sources

Quoted from Whysnow:

There is plenty of incentive to NOT tell people like you.
The current owners know what is hard to come by and most have likely located spares at this stage as they have come available from sources. I would never tell people as there is no upside to doing so and not real reason it should matter to them. It makes me question WHY you have always been so obsessed with trying to find out???

Quoted from Whysnow:

There is plenty of incentive to NOT tell people like you.
The current owners know what is hard to come by and most have likely located spares at this stage as they have come available from sources. I would never tell people as there is no upside to doing so and not real reason it should matter to them. It makes me question WHY you have always been so obsessed with trying to find out???

Quoted from Whysnow:

I personally think Heighway is the ONLY logical choice (after they get Aliens rolling).
WOOLY would be a perfect kit only machine for the wide body platform heighway is rolling with and Heighway has shown they have the skill to assemble a high quality machine that is jammed full of stuff. I personally would also love to see it with the induction based switches to further speed up the game (it is already super fast, but would be cool to be even faster )
Spooky has their hand full for the next many years with RZ at the 50% delivered mark, Dominoes will be the year after that, the next theme which everyone knows about and probably the worse kept secret in pinball, and then Ben's next game/ Spooky official #3.
If Spooky even decided to take it on, then we are probably talking 3 years out at best. Keep in mind no matter what, the game would need to reprogrammed on a new system. I sure hope Scott and Frank can find a way to make it feasible and also are able to make a truck load of money for the additional efforts it would take on top of what they have already done!

Quoted from Jodester:

Came looking for some sort of build announcement...all I got was more chatter about why/whynot the game will be built.

Quoted from Whysnow:

There are 6 games available to play and EVERY single one of them has been out in public at least once and most have been out in public more than once. I have invited numerous pinheads over to play that i have never met before, some have even reached out to me and I have had them over to check it out. From what I know, all the other owners have done the same on a regular basis. Have you ever even asked to play one, made connections with someone that has one, or just complain on a semi annual basis about this? You are fortunate enough that you have a few within a reasonable drive; that said with the way you specifically have been I am guessing few would care to invite you over and guys like you make people take caution towards inviting others over.
I am not sure what you expect?
How many times do they need to be at Expo for you to stop crying over and over and over... Seriously... largest pinball show and it was there multiple years in a row. If you cared to play it so much, there have multiple opportunities for you to do so. I am genuinely interested in what you are crying about and would finally satisfy you. Is there any realistic scenario to satisfy you, or do you just like to continually bring this up for the fun of it.
In case you did not realize there are also a few iterations of wooly as a virtual table last I checked (not sure if any of them have current layout or rules, but they will give you a chance to see the vibe at minimum).

Quoted from Whysnow:

You want one of the owners to give their game to an operator in Chicago or LTG or PHOF?
I guess you dont have any realistic examples...

Quoted from gstellenberg:

Interjecting with a couple of facts... Even at single-machine quantities, a P-ROC solution is nowhere near $1k. At production volumes, it's significantly less. As more and more MFGs design in P-ROC / P3-ROC, volume board prices go down even more. In sum, you'd be hard-pressed to find a control system solution with the capabilities most modern production games need for less than the P-ROC.
- Gerry
http://www.multimorphic.com

Quoted from jlm33:

Mine is not on location but if you plan to visit France, just ask. Nemo is fairly rare as well!
I brought WOOLY to a pin show last year and will do it again.

Quoted from pinballwil:

Then only the complete cabinet is out.
That save you 20%.
Thats why nobody makes only playfields kits.