not really... Just decreases the TGP to zero for qualifying. Still will be lots of selfie leagues because they are fun to play in.

I will say it is really sad to see this format stripped of value since so many like it and it seems to really help to bring out new people and introcuce them to competitive play. 50% value of qualifying games would seem to be a better compromise than 0%.

good question. If the unlimited qualifying still earns 20% then it seems fair.

lame

I will say that EVERY event has the ability for people to cheat the system. Even experienced scorekeepers can miss a beneficial malfunction or a player gaming the system. The self policing of selfie leagues and threat of being eliminated form all events seemed to take care of all possible cheating in my experience. Taking the qualifying value to zero is a bit extreme IMO.

There should be a compromise since there are so many benefits to these type of events.

I have NEVER played in a supervised event where i could not easily cheat or take advantage of a game if i so wished. The distinction of supervised vs unsupervised as being physical precense at a location is silly.

A compromise would be to limit the qualfying value, not make it a flat zero.

For someone trying to continue to build local competitive pinball and bring in new faces, the current format has been very successful. Limiting qualifying points just means more convoluted finals to maximize point value and make up for the loss of qualifying points.

No, it is yet another decision laid solidly in the bias of the top 100 mindset. Better idea would to make a maximal base value from qualifying. It is obvious that so many decisions are based soley to preserve the values of some at the top of rankings and to go against the guy running the nyc super point grab.

Bring it on. Im on fire. Might as well get all the bullshit out of the way now.

No i was the first one to tell you how dumb it was before and that would be a welcomed change. Bout time u do something right

I think that would be a really bad idea. Most locations already have a tough enough time hosting 16 hardcore players. I think that is also a different calculation for each state and should be based on base number of active players (%) if they are tweaking it.

That is a good point and I agree. I already hosted a bolt on event last year where the top 48 in the state played and competed in an end of year event and it was a great success. Unfortunately many states dont even have SCS at this stage and lowering the barrier for hosting is probably still more important at this stage. As things continue to build then I could see opening up qualifying a bit deeper in a few more years.

I hope whomever hosts this year is able to carry on and do it again!

nope. I have heard nothing. It may soon be the time when you and I need to discuss other options (maybe Rusty hosting? or another large private colleciton that plays good). We are already nearing mid year and I think we owe it to the players to figure something out.

we have started this for Madison based events. Super fun! Go for it!

Josh set up a custom ranking for us that helps gets most of the events in it.

only publically open events run and based entirely in the 2016 year and run in the Madison City limits.

We are cutting off qualifying After the Dec 17th event (last currently secheduled event of the year) and the Championship is slated to be held during the day on Dec 31st with a party to follow.

you could at least give credit where credit is due...

I created the Selfie league format. The very first flippin with the greats I spoke with you and got the whole idea OKed before going ahead. Month long unlimited qualifying with photos and trash talking on our regional forum.

You may have refined it, but I invented it

Next thing, you are going to be claiming your dad saved pinball...

heck yeah and that first one was big points when events had the big time base value

we all know NZ does not count dave

does this mean if a state does not send a player then they no longer have to donate $100 to the national pot?

What needs to be done to get WI to host nationals some year?

That is unfortunate. Sport could grow more with a national event that went to more places, not to mention the shit quality of games in vegas is pretty sad to use to rep the national event.

Moving the event to more regions of the cpuntry will get more press. SCS gets LOTS of press and moves the needle. NAtionals is minor in comparison and i saw hardly any press on a regonal level.

ONly seems natural to move the event to CA, Chicago, NYC, new orleans, vegas. Similar to many states rotating the SCS location, this helps buold the press scope of reach.

not closer to me per say...

Moving it around the nation to GOOD playing collections with large concentrations of good players. i.e. seems silly to no host in CA/PNW, Chicago, NYC, Pittsburg, etc... Locations of large populus, good players, good pinball collections able to really stand up to competition.

quoted for posterity

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Now to look up your mailing adress

So when are we moving it to Chicago for a year?

I suggest when that year comes up then I will host. I am never going to make it to nationals but would like to host it and nobody ever comes over to play my colleciton so it will provide a diverse colleciton with no homefield advantage.

you have to head up to Wi for a work trip. The largest operator of pinball machines in Madison wants to tlak to you about the possibiility of buying a bunch of Raw Thrills games.