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Wpc-s congo conversion harnesses?

By Venom_249

9 years ago

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#1 9 years ago

AJM

Just got ahold of a congo conversion kit and I have an old shadow cabinet to put it in, but no harnesses to hook it up to a wpc-s machine.......so hoping I can get some help if anybody out there has a congo kit they would sell the wpc-s harnesses for or would rent them to me so I could make some of my own? I've already got a lot of Molex connectors and wire so it'd be really quick turnaround time like a week or less. If there is any pinout in the manual or anything that would help too I don't have the conversion manuals so I'm not sure what all is in them.

#2 9 years ago

JWJ

johnwartjr

That Pinball Place

Columbus, IN

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Is there really anything to adapt? It should all pretty much plug in...

#3 9 years ago

AJM

Venom_249

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I just pm'd you about roms. Lol In another pinsiders for sale post he shows pics of harnesses connectors etc, listed them as back box and Playfield conversion harnesses. I have neither......

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/congo-kit-for-sale-pics

#4 9 years ago

MVM

markmon

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Isn't this just a wpc95 game?

#5 9 years ago

AJM

Venom_249

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The conversion kit came with harnesses and roms so it was possible to not only use it in a wpc-95 but also a narrow body wpc-s. so far it looks like 2 of the additional harnesses were just extensions to get the playfield harness up to the fliptronics board in the upper left of a wpc-s cab. Still trying to figure out what the other harnesses are. Anybody out there have a conversion kit actually in a wpc-s? Or everybody just used NBA fastbreaks?

#6 9 years ago

JWJ

johnwartjr

That Pinball Place

Columbus, IN

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The harnesses make sense now.

One goes to the translite tub, the other extends the harnesses up to the fliptronics board, etc.

I bet Jim Shird has what it'd take to make the other harnesses. I'll drop him a line.

#7 9 years ago

MVM

markmon

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Hillsboro, OR

13y 98,300 13,010 21 81

Ok I'm not trying to argue. Just generally confused. Isn't there more differences between wpc-s and wpc95 than just harnesses? Wouldn't it require some programming differences? I haven't seen roms for both platforms.

#8 9 years ago

AJM

Venom_249

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Yeah, there are different rom sets for the two versions, if you got the conversion kit then it would have had both rom sets in the box from the pics ive seen. If you were doing a WPC95 conversion then you wouldnt really need the speaker plexi either.

#9 9 years ago

JWJ

johnwartjr

That Pinball Place

Columbus, IN

12y 77,400 6,479 14

Congo history....

Congo was available in kit form. The kits didn't sell really well, so the concept was not continued until SWE1 came out.

The kits would work in WPC-S or WPC-95 narrow visit cabinets. Per a conversation I had with Ted Estes today, the CPU ROMs and security chips are the same for WPC-S and WPC-95. The sound roms are not. The sounds are the same though.

Many of the unsold Congo kits were later made into compete games, using B&W artwork cabinets after TOTAN was released.

The kits included a wired playfield, translite with light tub, a couple harnesses and roms for both versions. There was no cab art,

2 months later

#10 9 years ago

AJM

Venom_249

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A little update for future reference here's the Congo chips in a wpc-s mpu booted up fine using my road show. image.jpg

2 years later

#11 6 years ago

UBB

ubbla

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Jönköping

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Quoted from johnwartjr:
Congo history....
Congo was available in kit form. The kits didn't sell really well, so the concept was not continued until SWE1 came out.
The kits would work in WPC-S or WPC-95 narrow visit cabinets. Per a conversation I had with Ted Estes today, the CPU ROMs and security chips are the same for WPC-S and WPC-95. The sound roms are not. The sounds are the same though.
Many of the unsold Congo kits were later made into compete games, using B&W artwork cabinets after TOTAN was released.
The kits included a wired playfield, translite with light tub, a couple harnesses and roms for both versions. There was no cab art,

what version was that to the mpu? 1.1 or?? looking for the right chip both mpu, security and soundroms..

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