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WPC-95 weird power-up behavior (ToTAN)

By meeotch

3 years ago


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#8 3 years ago
Quoted from whthrs166:

I would start by reseating all the ribbon cables. Then start checking voltages.

If you’re going to test the voltages, you should do so PRIOR to reseating the connectors. Reseating the connectors could actually mask the problem and make it more difficult to find.

Quoted from whthrs166:

Yeah, while you in there reseat your ASIC too.

I’d look here. I had an ASIC issue on my AFM and it needed to be replaced. LED203 (I’m assuming this is the one you classified as LED103). is toggled from pin 35 of the ASIC. If it’s not on, I would confirm continuity between pin 35 of the ASIC and the diode to establish that it’s not a trace issue. If there’s continuity, start looking at the ASIC.

#12 3 years ago
Quoted from meeotch:

Thanks for the reply. And yes - all the voltages I posted were measured prior to reseating anything. Also, edited my post to give the correct LED numbers.
Found the ASIC pinout on pinwiki. Looks like pin 35 is the third from the left, bottom edge, on the chip carrier. No continuity between that and either of the legs on the 203 LED. Tried on the back of the board, too, where pin 35 appears to be second from the right, bottom edge. Same results. Does that sound like the right test?
There aren't any traces leading from that pin that are actually visible, unfortunately... It seems that they're on the front of the board, not the back, and they're hidden underneath the carrier, so I can't follow them. The board looks super clean, though. See previous pics, and the one below.
The one suspicious thing is the minor damage at the lower-left ASIC corner. Looks like the case is chipped where someone tried to pop it out with a screwdriver or something. Maybe when I pushed (yes, gently) on it, I managed to worsen previous damage.
Going to order a PLCC puller, so that I can pull the ASIC and try reseating it. If someone could sanity-check my pin numbering & PLCC tool selection, that would be appreciated: amazon.com link »[quoted image]

Sorry. Didn't have a schematic earlier. Pin 35 should go to U21 ( just to the right of the ASIC) pin 9 and out pin 8 to the top of R7 (far left, just above the LEDs). The fact that there's logic and a resistor between the ASIC and the LED complicates things. Since pushing on things changed the state, I would be suspicious of the ASIC or a cold solder joint.

I second the recommendation of Rob Anthony and, of course, Chris Hibler who is more active on this site.

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