The BAT1 is for the real time clock for the Beaglebone Black interface. I built this board by hand and didn't have that part in stock. It will be populated in the released boards, of course.

The "Battery" connector allows a user who wants to use a Beaglebone Black the ability to have a "safe shutdown" of the Linux OS running on the Beaglebone Black. The FAST WPC Controller and FAST Core Controller both include this "safe shutdown" circuitry that when the 5v driving the board is cut, it switches to the power provided by a battery just long enough for the triggered "shutdown" of the Linux OS to complete its shutdown process.

Aaron
FAST Pinball

ive past the word along. hope this can get on track !

Ah - very, very smooth..

Are there any new details on this yet.?

Any news?

From what I gathered, CV and TotAN were shelved for the time being due to JPop's fall from grace. FH was also paused due to someone else having issues .. but seems like it may be started again when the platform is finished (hopefully soon).

It's unfortunate.....or maybe it was the plan all along to entrust these projects to Kevin and John......the old Williams strategy.....hey.....we tried......

I'm sure it will all come out in due time.....we all might be dead but due time...

Also still waiting on this, any news?

NVM

Since rick from planetary left pinside, I'd say this thread is done. Check the forums on the pps website.

When it comes to updating these games I.would say its in our collective hands now. If you like a game and want it updated I would put a call out to like minded people, get a fast or proc board and get working. One person codes, one on dots, one on sounds. Maybe a fourth who does it all. It's so crazy it just might work....

OK, I'll ask. Been away from hobby for a while and was intrigued with this post from many years ago.

I presume, the project is dead?

It's a shame because conceptually it seems pretty cool. Imagine a Funhouse with updated code and a DMD. Oh well, one can wish.

6 years after, can someone explain why this have failed?
If there was license, what was the problem? Did they at least, communicate to explain why it was not possible?
Is there any WPC95 project with Fast board, I don’t see any...
Lot of noise for nothing.

I'm surprised no one knows what happened to this project.

This was and still is disappointing. I was really looking forward to FH 2.0. I may have even kept my TOTAN had this come about.
Only thing I can recall was someone called skit b (who ever that is!) was supposed to work on FH. What ever happened I don't know. Too bad someone else wasn't able to pick this up and make it a reality.

Funhouse 2.0! I forgot about this idea. I'd buy that kit in a heartbeat,

Imagine what could be done to Funhouse in a 2.0 version. Wow.

Hopefully someone is working on this in a cone of silence somewhere and will release when ready.

I don't think BoP 2.0 sold well. Not sure if that is because of the issues Dutch Pinball was having, or people just didn't want it.

I was playing BoP 2.0 and switched back to the original game for a bit. It would be awesome if someone created DMD animations for the 1.0 version instead of the fake alphanumeric.

I don't think you will see $500, or even close. A Color DMD and upgraded sound system are pretty typical mods, those 2 alone are $650. I agree 2k is too expensive. I think they would have had a lot more buyers at $1,500. When they were designing BoP 2.0 the base game was around $1,500. I doubt you'll find one that cheap now. This hobby got expensive. Ha!

The kit is worth every penny and I'm so glad I have one!

Is this project really closed? If yes why? Come on PPS \ fastpinball say something...
This project can be a really great for Sys11 lovers like me.

A Funhouse remake, with or without 2.0, would be a hit

I don't think there is any real money in it. I think the money is in the remake games with no new code just the add ons. (Topper,Big DMD Speaker Upgrade)
Don't get me wrong, the idea is awesome! I would be all over it. New code New toys for 2k? Oh yeah, You bet! But I am in the minority.

So the original project was going to be Kevin from skit-b, and Jpop (Zidware), and shortly after the announcement Skit-B and Zidware both imploded. Add to that FAST had not shown they could even do this and this project went down hill fast. Now that CGC and PPS partnered up to do re-makes, which can be far more lucrative, then 2.0 versions of games, the interest in doing this really died off.

Best hope would be more of the BOP3.0 concept, remakes of older games with updated code and graphics. Question is, how many folks are willing to pay 7K for a Fun House 2.0 and is that enough to cover the cost. Keeep in mind, a 2.0 remake is going to require more development and therefore be less profitable than a WPC remake with minimal code/content changes, so the sales volume has to be there.

According to CCC P-ROC project (or others), there was thousands and thousands of hours, years of work to rewrite and recode an extension. Assuming the remake needs also some work, does anyone still think it’s possible to have a CC (or else) with a new extended recode edition for a fair price? Not worth it. They didn’t had guts to recognize it and prefer to scare new potential new projects with law stuff and make sure nothing will never happen. I could be wrong but open for a proof for the contrary.

We were good to go. The implosion of skit-b and Zidware took the wind out of the sails and we focused the efforts elsewhere.

Aaron
FAST Pinball

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So your saying you just need programmers and the hardware is available ?

I’ve tried to reach you several time on PM and you never answered. I don’t know why. I did my project with P-ROC. Everything is fine. Gerry on the contrary give a great support for all the projects. I have no stocks. Just to make that clear.

If someone were interested in doing a 2.0 game and worked out the licensing with PPS, we would be more than happy to make arrangements for hardware to do so.

Aaron
FAST Pinball

I'll go back and look at correspondence, I am sorry if I missed you. I have mixed up people between screennames, avatars and real world names in the past. I am very sorry for leaving you feeling ignored.

Aaron
FAST Pinball

I guess we know why nothing happened and are back to post 1 from 6 years ago with the licensing stuff. When we know how long it takes to code an extension, and the business model, I look forward to see it.

Nothing happened because Rick was blowing smoke, he was all over the place trying to stop hobbyists coding games or adding to the programs at time....this was just a ruse. It worked lol.

535 posts on this topic only for says: Nothing to see here?
No new projects? No interest? 6y for develop a useless board?

fastpinball let us know please, I was really interested in

This has been done before.

Call up PPS, tell them what you want to do, see about negotiating a royalty deal on a per-unit basis as well as access to original game assets and get busy.

This is also a hardware-independent solution. Toss a P-ROC in there and go if you can't get your hands on another WPC-based control system.

Rick may be brash, but he's a business man, and deals like this have been made before (IE: BoP 2.0)

(This applies solely to unlicensed/original themes in the WMS/BLY lineup)

Correct. Rick is reasonable man. I've had many talks with him on my project.
I was so close, so close, then this covid shit killed it for now. If Chicago opens in next couple months, maybe I will get my turn at the shop. Also with pinball assembly lines being a little slow once things open up I may be able to slide into an element of pinball that isnt busy with ramp up. Fingers crossed for july or August.
No Pm's on this post please. My project is pinball related and has nothing to do with Aaron's awesome CPU or code.
What Fast needs is reliable programmers that want a % of sales per board. No one works for Free. Also, it needs to be attacked and worked on every day. This project needs more than a hobbiest that only can put in a few hours a week.

Ok great reply, but is your board ready after 6y? I'm really interested. P-Roc is a great board but is without competitor at the time..

This is exactly true. PPS is working with me for NGG2.0. For other licenses, I am guessing he would be open to a business proposal as well.

But as others have said, it is difficult to get the economics to work. Just the hardware alone, depending on component choices, could drive the costs north of $800 to $1000. P-Roc, LCD monitor, and computer. Add it up. Then you have to add in all the costs of development and man-hours. And one person can't do everything. I purchased assets I couldn't make myself such as music, sound effects, etc. I wrote the code but I'm not a full-fledged development team.

I am really excited about the new hardware solutions such as APC that cold drive those hardware costs down and potentially allow for more projects to come to market, however, it is my opinion that there are not many developers out there that are stupid enough as I am to put a couple of thousand hours into a project and sell it for a few sheckels over cost.

You really believe they are working on something? I think this project is dead (after 6y)...

I have been hoping for Bad Cats 2.0.

My List:
FH
F14
Diner
Bad Cats

Well said.

Yup, this pretty much sums it up. From the small amounts of work ive done with the Proc, the setting up of the hardware takes very little time compared to the time sink that coding rules and putting together video and audio assets takes. The reason this hasn't been done is because there is no money in it.

Had a good time reading this thread after putting hours of gameplay in on my FH 2.0 last night... Hot damn, didn't know the 6+ years history in the making! So amped this project eventually came to fruition. Hope all parties involved are pleased with the outcome and more 2.0 kits are on the horizon.

Bring on Pinbot 2.0!

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