CAJONES? Of course you have to use machismo to push back because logic fails to justify it. All you have to do is read all the problems people are having and that's one good reason to bail. The other is the game is nearly done. Some love it some really don't.

You mean COJONES?

I had these same feelings I sold mine ordered the same date as a matter of fact the day Metallica was shown. I got a chance to play a real production woz and it was a blast - then the second time I was like wow is this game not for me. Sell sell sell. One major reason was I could not look at the game with out having anger over the entire experiance - now featuring technician issues get out!

Hey Jim, I totally agree that it helps to make wise and "educated" decisions, understanding options A, B and C, I preach it every day.

The beauty of this decision is that you now have an Option B, C, D, etc. Don't like JJP, go to Stern, SkitB, Jpop, Heighwey, PPS, P3, and more on the way.

If you think you are guaranteed perfection out of the box on any pin you should head on over to the Metallica threads. But you already know better with the amount of pins you have.

Does it simply make some common sense to you that the more pins that roll off the line, the better they get at fixing the issues that crop up, and that having a later version would have less to zero issues?

Mine was "born" in late September, I've played the crap out of it, and have had to adjust one switch.

Maybe you should wait for #2 or #3 if it bothers you that much. GL with your decision

Btw, the Ac/dc you thinking about, is sitting next to my Woz, and while I love my Ac/dc, it gets a little "stale" the more you play it, that's why I'm changing up song play list to keep it fresh. Doesn't happen with Woz for me yet. There are plenty of left ramp/right ramp plus one spinner games out there as well.

And the other one you are considering, "educate" yourself by reading all of those Metallica threads first.

I don't blame you for how you feel. I really think JJP has done themselves a disservice by not being open about the issues people are having. I have one and enjoy it but there is a sense that something is not going to work every time I turn it on. I own routed 20+yr old games that I never doubt will be 100% evey time I flip the switch.

TaylorVA

Thanks for keeping it real sir

Interesting you brought this up. I was thinking of some other imagery from that movie that sums up the preorder process as well.....

Yeah, you should listen to this Curly guy Jim, he has so much experience with Woz "Keeping it real sir" is that its a great pin and I don't see Taylor VA selling his either. Sucks that he's had some problems like some of the other early run folks.

Out of 700 or so out there, shit happens, it sucks……..what really sucks is the people that don't have theirs yet.

Here you go Op, no Curly crapping in that thread…….

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/just-played-wozecle-blown-away

I'm not selling mine as I do think it is an incredible game and the tech support has been spot on. Just sharing my understanding for the OPs mindset.

Haha! Yep, heard that for 2 1/2 years, kids didn't believe it was ever gonna happen. So worth the wait and if the wife and kids are a consideration then its a "no brainer". When you finally unbox it and everybody gets to play it, you'll be so glad you kept it.

This is the only game that my wife and 3 girls will play now.

Good choice!

Jim Z... My WOZ had basically no problems in 400+ games played.
The game is stunning to look at and challenging to play! I am sure your family will love it.

Jim,
Just remember one thing, the action of pinball is totally unpredictable. Therefore no matter if its a JJ, Stern or older manufacturer, there's always the chance of a fluke happening.
There's simply no way to eliminate every issue from every game.
There have been so many Wizard of Oz units to hit the market now and there's ton of support for issues.
You will be rewarded with such a nice machine when it comes and I'm sure your wife and kids will love it.
Just remind yourself things may go wrong. No biggie. Just part of a fun of owning a pin

Ice

Please keep it real sir (or epic)

I was in and out two different instances. I was lucky to get a good deal a third time and I couldn't be happier. I have had a few issues. No biggie. It's and outstanding game. I love mine and can't see a situation where I would get rid of it. Outstanding game.

Well the investors maybe helping as Jack posted a pic of the production line full. May have been standards but the good news is its moving now. Guess the backordered parts and cabinets magically arrived when the money did ; )

With the refunds given I wonder if you can order EC LE's from jack again now? A few spots seem to have opened up for when production of the LE's commence again.

It's a great game and I'm having a blast with mine. However there have been problems with it and that's expected with a pinball machine, especially with the first one by a new company. Rules still need a lot of work though. There are just so many little things that need work on this game. But still it's really fun and has a lot of potential.

About selling your spot. I wouldn't do it if I were you. It does nothing to send a message to JJP for their poor planing and misleading information over the years. In fact it helps JJP if you get a refund. They will just sell your spot that you paid $6500 for and sell it for $8,000 or $8,500, or whatever the latest price is.