You can't own that which doesn't exist.
I'm sick of doublespeak .
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Quoted from HighProtein:I'm sick of doublespeak .
"I'm gonna go get the papers...the papers."
Quoted from rommy:Where the hell have you been man? That is my reason right there, superstition.
Needed a bit of a pinbreak. Now I'm recharged and ready to roll!
Quoted from rai:Jarjar are you back or just show up of WoZ polls?
Back for now. Only found my way into this and an X-thread so far. You end up taking the WOZ plunge?
Quoted from DCFAN:That was Robin's decision to set it up to put the game on the collection before it arrived and it is his site, his site his rules
That is why I went ahead and did it. I don't think it matters at all, but I did it.
Quoted from PinballHelp:The real question is, should the game be in the Pinside database if it doesn't exist yet?
Robin's site, he put it there so the answer is yes!
Quoted from jarjarisgod:You end up taking the WOZ plunge?
I just couldn't resist that colorful play field and those ruby flippers.
Quoted from rommy:"I'm gonna go get the papers...the papers."
Jimmy Two Times. Classic
I vote yes. Some people saying its the best game made, others complaining about it. People trying to buy it, people trying to sell it. People talking about MODs for it. Sure sound like a game in the collection to me!
Money down probably not but who really cares.
Paid in full on the other hand you own the machine it just has not been shipped yet.
Just my opinion
Perth
Woz is a pinball , have you guys seen some of the production shot of machines coming down the line , well that is a pinball , it may be half made three quarters made whatever but you have paid for something that you can already touch............
Wont be long and it will be a complete pinball.......
JJP its first pin of many quality to come......
Quoted from Pintucky:I paid for it, I own it. It's not just yet in my home. It's in 'storage'.
Mike
Are you saying yours has been built?
Quoted from Pintucky:I paid for it, I own it. It's not just yet in my home. It's in 'storage'.
Mike
It's in pieces on a shelf! 
I think that it is fair to say that WOZ has progressed well beyond the "vaporware" stage. It is a game, it is not just a pipe dream. Just about everyone (except a very few doubters) expects the games to actually be delivered. Subcontractors are producing parts and production facilities exist. Jack sent out a few seconds of footage of a real working game last night with a promise of more tonight.
Yep, it's a game.
Yep, I ordered it.
Yep, I own it.
I'd love to bet Iceman but 1 you won't pay off and you'll look for loop holes to get out. 2nd it's not a $50 dollar bet, $1000! Most of us know you're so off base with your claims it's not worth the time to even respond to you. You're under the influence of the "Cool-Aid" and fail to realize what's going on around you. Ice would you consider the game at E3 a test game? You would, I wouldn't. It was a scam game, put out there to trick people!! It had dry wall screws and no operating system!! God only knows what "Frankenstein" JJP will release to get the masses off his back! BTW it's mid Aug and the same story, NO GAMES to be seen anywhere! Oh ya it's now Sept and they are getting ready to get one out there in 2 weeks! REALLY? Ice keep talking and maybe you'll get it right.
Mississauga, ON
Quoted from Exejet:I'd love to bet Iceman but 1 you won't pay off and you'll look for loop holes to get out. 2nd it's not a $50 dollar bet, $1000! Most of us know you're so off base with your claims it's not worth the time to even respond to you. You're under the influence of the "Cool-Aid" and fail to realize what's going on around you. Ice would you consider the game at E3 a test game? You would, I wouldn't. It was a scam game, put out there to trick people!! It had dry wall screws and no operating system!!
Obviously this is some sort of conspiracy. How far do you think it goes?
Have you figured out how WOZ ties into 9/11 or chemtrails yet? ; )
Alkmaar
Well, the game already exists, the parts just aren't all fitted yet. There's really not too much difference from my other pins being shopped out (also a bunch of parts lying around) - only that WOZ is located somewhere else, namely in Jacks warehouse. 
But seriously, I added it to the Pinside archive so we could build a Pinsiders WOZ owners list, check it out here: http://pinside.com/pinball/archive/wizard-of-oz/owners
Quoted from Drano:I'm superstitious. Nothing gets added to my collection until it is in my possession, or at least in my company's warehouse.
I agree .. i dont mind that its on pinside at all, i just wont add it in my pinside collection to its in my basement next to my other games! because you never know if it makes it to the basement, I may sell it NIB box to exejet for 25k because he will be drooling to get one after it's out
Quoted from islandpinball:I agree .. i dont mind that its on pinside at all, i just wont add it in my pinside collection to its in my basement next to my other games! because you never know if it makes it to the basement, I may sell it NIB box to exejet for 25k because he will be drooling to get one after it's out
Funniest post I have read in weeks!
Quoted from Exejet:1 you won't pay off and you'll look for loop holes to get out. 2nd it's not a $50 dollar bet, $1000!
Wait....what!....I don't think so....and of course its a $1,000 bet, your time is running out though buddy because update is coming today from the UK so its put up or shut up time...
Since you think the pin will never be made it should be in the bag for you.... 
Quoted from iceman44:buddy because update is coming today from the UK so its put up or shut up time...
? From the Uk?
Quoted from DCfoodfreak:? From the Uk?
He is referring to the UK Pinball Party. I don't know if Jack is going there or not based on the WOZ newsgroup. I think it is more likely that he is presently traveling to or from the Illinois Midwest campus where he could film the game that Keith added the new software to, but I could be totally wrong.
Either way, Jack said that an update will be late today.
I sincerely hope it's a real test game, not a half baked "work in progress" slight of hand just to get the winged monkey off his back (been suffering through 2 years of that already).
If JJP does well we ALL win. There will be sweet JJP machines to buy, new cool competing Stern titles to buy & the out of production titles will drop in cost in the secondary market making it less painful to buy those too. I can see my collection going from 7 to 21 real quick
Fingers crossed its a legit test game!
Quoted from txstargazer3:Jack sent out a few seconds of footage of a real working game last night with a promise of more tonight
What?!?! I am on the WOZ list and did not see it. Is that where he sent it?
It wasn't released publicly yet. I have it and its fantastic!.. although i can't provide any details. Its coming today or tomorrow.
Quoted from Pinchroma:It wasn't released publicly yet. I have it and its fantastic!.. although i can't provide any details. Its coming today or tomorrow.
So it did not go to WOZ owners is what you are saying, just a select few?
Trust me you wont be disappointed.
Quoted from Pinchroma:Not yet abso.. but shortly Trust me you wont be disappointed.
Very hard to disappoint me, these are games in the end and I always try to remind myself that. Pretty easy when I see my brother (single guy) get mad about a scratch in his truck or his bike. Nothing of real value (family) in his life.
Edit: Looks like RodT put a clip up while I was typing. Looks like a pin to me, not sure because I did not see any drywall screws. 
Quoted from RobT:» YouTube video
Have that one as well. That ones cool because it shows the RGB GI lighting and working software as you can see the score incrementing and interactions with the playfield changing the display accordingly.
Quoted from absocountry2:Very hard to disappoint me, these are games in the end and I always try to remind myself that. Pretty easy when I see my brother (single guy) get mad about a scratch in his truck or his bike. Nothing of real value (family) in his life.
Edit: Looks like RodT put a clip up while I was typing. Looks like a pin to me, not sure because I did not see any drywall screws.
LOL.. Exejet complaint special.. What a tool that guy is.
Quoted from Pinchroma:Have that one as well. That ones cool because it shows the RGB GI lighting and working software as you can see the score incrementing and interactions with the playfield changing the display accordingly.
Indeed, it all looks very cool! I wish that the video quality was (a lot) better.
Honestly guys the game will likely be onsite at iplay in the next week or so.. The same f*cking time im in Arizona for work.. go figure. Thats ok ill take the following monday off to pump money in.. If thats the case Ill put $50 worth of credits in the machine for any/all pinsiders who show up.. 50 games amongst us should be sufficient 
OK Iceman. Way too criptic for me $50. 1 game by next week working on site with no problems until Sept 1.
At that point one of us pay pals the other.
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