i appreciate all the offers to help, and all the suggestions on how to get them up. we got it up - it just seemed to heavy for two people - so i waited for another son and it was easy with three - well not that easy.
when we built that garage we added the game room on the second floor. the theory was once it went up there it wasn't coming down. well that didn't work.
as far as leaving the legs on i find that the best way as you can stop and rest as you are walking up the stairs. with the legs on you just put it down and take a break.
the hardest things to get up there were the racing games and the skee ball game. if i ever sell either of them it's with the understanding the new owner has to figure out how to get them down.
when i was bringing the 2nd racing game up by myself with the stair climber it started going forward and i panicked. needless to say thank god for cell phones as i brought the game down (not down the stairs - but down so it stopped climbing - it's hard to explain) and there was no way i could stand it up myself. i had to hold it to keep it from going down by itself.
i was able to call for help on the cell phone and just waited a good hour or so. i am not complaining as i love my game room up there. i do have a winch at the top of the stairs - i have never used it - but my father installed one for me when he saw me bringing games up by myself.
next to head up there is metle - but something has to come down first.
need to find out how to update woz now - i can say people are right as it is too dark. thanks ed