I dig the music, not bad for when the ball is just sitting in the shooter lane. Out of my games I think LOTR has the best music and varying moods of music - they did that game right - even the music after the game and match sequence is great.

look foward to playing one of these!!!

I think it is gonna be a great game. I can't wait to see more. I bet the music will pull the art and toys all together. It is too hard to judge music alone.

Newest email from JJ today shows a pic of a toy from the game. Then the words "Dorothy's house pre-twister". Which instantly makes me think MM castle style on the house. This could be AWESOME along with the rumored witch toy.

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Very interesting, great to have an update, even though it was a little vague. I can't wait to see this game finished and wish I could afford one.

Only four hundred pre ordered, I thought there would be more takers on it?

I saw Wicked a couple of years ago, and it did make me see/think about the wizard of oz in a different light, so making the theme darker does appeal more to me than the cute side, bring on the flying monkeys, hope they're included somewhere within.

Nice to see that on top of the full schematics/layouts some of us have. Is that Aunty Em showering naked in the one window ... LOL

JJ is such a tease...

Just not getting the "cool factor" from the house toy. Must be missing something.

I think that house should flip inside out and spin around with the walls and roof flung off somehow to the far corners of the playfield and then reassemble itself in the blink of an eye after the tornado multiball has finished.

I remember as a kid seeing it for the first time,
the twister and the mean lady on a bike turning into a witch - scary

and then the turn to color after the landing.....1938?

Is that Aunty Em showering naked in the one window ... LOL

Yeah, and her boobs are visible from the basement window...

Ya I guess were gonna have to use the wait n see approach but that house doesnt look like it belongs on a Pin. Maybe a girls doll house.

I get what your saying about the house now. It's the pre-twister that intrigues me.

Does that mean it's gonna get blown away?

Very tempting as it is only $1000 above a Stern LE and it should knock those out of the park!

Sounds like you already answered your own question Simon! I put my order in two weeks ago and I was already into the high 600's.
It is not $1000 above. It is the same $6500 that Stern loves to charge. That is... if you get your Pre-Order in soon.

I think they are alluding to the fact that the house will break apart or land on the witch something with the Pre Twister statement - on RGP there is more about the mock up - its just a mock up for probably size etc.

And does anyone have any scans of the play field? []

Sorry folks ... like I said I can't share them. We were asked nicely to remove the one post that had a small corner of it a member posted. Maybe if Robin owes you a HUGE favor you can get them from him. This isn't Pinileaks

I pre-ordered before I saw them. It's gonna be a unique machine. I have some of the preliminary source code but that is subject to change. I also believe they may still make some minor changes to the playfield and "toys" as needed.

I'm sure Jack is more than happy we aren't stealing his secrets and divulging them before he decides. I want him to respect Pinside for it's support of the hobby and devotion to integrity.

Pre order------------------------------check
Excitement,Off The Charts-----------check
Early indications are that this WOZ Limited Edition,1000 Machines are the SH*T
Call and talk to Jack at the #'s listed on his websites,Nice guy,Straight shooter,Seems to be businessman of the year.
Who else has a payment plan?With the option of backing out with a full refund.
I am not on Jacks payroll,or his brother.

I can ask you if they excite you and would they make you pre-order if you had not already done so??

Like BD, I had already pre-ordered before I saw the leaked playfield layout. Once I saw it, however, it only served to solidify the fact that I had made the right decision in putting down a deposit. It's going to be a really cool game!

Man!!! It is only APRIL too!
Must...HAVE....NOOOOOWWW!

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I think it will be a great game, I'm in. but I'm sure there will be people who will hate it....and I'm sure there are some who hate it already.

Well, when we start hearing about special clubs you have to pre-order to belong to yah, some people will begin to hate it

The fact of the matter is you can't please everyone. There is going to be a portion of people (hopefully small) that won't like the game. Not everyone loves TZ, or MM, or MB, to each their own.

To put down money on a game you know nothing about seems a bit crazy. Even if the price jumps $1K later, you're betting $6,500 to win $1,000 that you will like the game.

I don't think the risk vs reward is there. I know it's a sliding scale of payments or some other system he worked out, but I don't care for some of the coolest looking games out there, TZ in my case. Unless I'm mistaken, the price jumps $1,000 by the time you can get your hands on one and I think it's $1,000 well spent in this case.

Nice to see that on top of the full schematics/layouts some of us have.

Oh, how I envy you. I can't wait to see the playfield layout! This game can't come soon enough.

Dang it.

If you have the playfield layout, stop telling us you have it and can't share it! I've been preordered since January and I've seen NOTHING!

I know this is off topic, but what's the best method of shipping? I e-mailed Jack, but I was just curious if picking the game up yourself is cheaper/faster/better. I'm about 5 hours away. I'd like to reserve my game here, I think I'm hooked.

Thought it might be a good way to see the factory, but only $150 to ship...and no taxes..hmmmm

I think this game is gonna be one that will make those who did not pre-order sorry they didn't. Team JJ seems to be putting their all into it. I can't wait!

That is one way to look at it ......but two years from now ......we could also be the ones that pick one up for less than pre-order. By then at least we will know what we are getting. But then again......they may double in price. Only time will tell.

Well, you're always going to be able to get one cheaper USED. But who wants that? I've had that delicious "new pinball smell" 3 times now. Used pinball smell? Kind of depends.

And while I expect the "normal edition" to be cheaper than the post-preorder price of $7500, it may not go lower than $6500.

And remember, you're not just buying a new pinball machine, you're supporting a new company trying to push pinball forward in a high quality direction. Look at the positive effect a little competition is already having on Stern.

But if WOZ doesn't succeed, there may not be a second game to wait for.

But if WOZ doesn't succeed, there may not be a second game to wait for.

"Tsshyeah- and monkeys might fly out of my butt!"

I think the first 1000 machines should be only black & white, and then they should switch them to color!

I think the first 1000 machines should be only black & white, and then they should switch them to color!

You got a good chuckle out of me.

I think that would be a cool playfield transition going from B&W at the drain and then stagger slowly into color; with the "Emerald City" glowing in the distance.
Kinda like this, but more pop and with heavy line-work to show the Witch's influence.
O.K. so NOT like this...

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I wonder if we are all excited... I bet not....

Actually, what would be really cool to see would be some "Mood Lighting". Depending on how long you take to get through the modes. Have full spectrum lighting LED strips (or bulbs) etc, to simulate sunrise/sunset, storms, nighttime (Stars!) fiber optics running the length of the playfield AND surrounding cabinet! Coupled to the music/sounds of course!

What do you think?

I think if JJ has NO budget at all that would be AMAZING.
I thought I read somewhere at some point that their would be some LED's that you could change color in the service menu. I don't know though. Might be a rumor.

They are close simon.
There is still too much separation (prism effect) still in the ones that I have seen in person.
A frosted bulb would help, but you lose a little clarity in the color. The "Cointaker Superbrights" would be the perfect candidate. RGB's would look really good if they doubled or tripled the pins for secondary and tertiary colors. I guess the buzzword for those LED's is "Color-Mesh" found on the new gigantic building displays in Asia. But yeah for pinball this is all we get so far...
Maybe in a couple more years I can get a "Burnt Umber" LED!
Kidding of course!

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I am in!! Done my pre-order.

Welcome to the club my friend! Now drink this...

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Besides some of the older A titles sell for such high amounts that this is not as mad as it seems......

You raise a very good point. If WOZ turns out to be half as good as we think it will be, $6,500 will seem like a bargain.